Obama: The rich need to pay their fair share because they didn’t become rich on their own

I see several blogs posting the short video of Obama saying “If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.” And I hate really short clips because I always want to know what the context was when it was said. So I went and got it myself and I think the context makes it even worse. It’s not that he’s just insulting business owners – in fact he’s talking about the actual physical business that was built by a construction worker. But what he’s really doing is making the argument that the rich need to pay their fair share and then goes into this riff about how you were never successful on your own, that you got help from somebody else.

Watch below:

This clip is just laden with false premise after false premise. First of all, turning the deficit into a surplus in the 90s had much more to do with a Republican Congress who had a mandate from the people and a president who was forced to compromise with them.

And tax increases just don’t create private sector jobs. How does taking money out of your pocket incentivize you to hire someone? It’s just stupid.

And we all know that the rich pay more than their fair share when it comes to taxes. It’s the bottom 50 percent or so that don’t pay their fair share and we’ve explained that before right here.



After spouting this nonsense Obama goes into this riff about how people don’t become successful on their own to explain why the rich must pay their fair share. But it’s poppycock. Every example he gives is the result of someone paying someone else to do something. If I need a building for my business you better believe I’m going to have to pay someone to build it. If the fire department puts out your house-fire, it’s only because you pay for it in taxes. The roads and bridges that were built weren’t done with money the government solely provided – it was done with money the taxpayers solely provided.

And someone doesn’t work because they want to help you – they work because they want to help themselves. They have a family to feed or needs of their own that necessitates money. That’s just how it works. People are always looking out for their own self-interests and that’s a good thing.

But what Obama is really saying in this riff is that you need the government and the rich need to pay more to fund it. At least that’s what he wants you to believe. It’s this collectivist, redistributionist bullcrap. It’s the life of Julia.

Obama bolsters his point by saying that we rise and fall together, but we don’t – at least as Obama means it. America is great because the individual is FREE to do whatever he or she wants to with their lives. As Ronald Reagan put it:

The American dream is that every man must be free to become whatever God intends he should become.

If anything America’s greatness is borne out in the culmination of millions of free individuals who did it on their own. That’s why we’ve been prosperous. That’s why our sons and daughters fight so hard to defend this nation and to keep it safe. Because we’re FREE. And it’s only when the government steps in that we become less free.

I fear Obama is right about one thing though. We do fall together when we listen to people like Obama and we allow these collectivists and statists to spend us blind with these redistributive policies. They claim to have the noblest of intentions but the end result is that the whole society crumbles under the weight of a decreasing number of people paying for the rest. Just look at Europe.

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Stephen
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What does it mean to have freedom? Freedom from Britain? We didn’t even do that on our own. If it wasn’t for the French, we might still be a territory of the UK today. Freedom to ridicule and insult the government? To what end? Does anyone actually believe that the people in government who disagree with you on economic matters are trying to “ruin America?” That’s an absurd notion. They want things to be better, they just have a different approach. Freedom to pursue our dreams? Good luck pulling yourself up from the slums to a penthouse in a society without the equalizer of public roads, public schools, public libraries, public transportation, public healthcare (for your kids at any rate), public police and fire forces, hospitals that are required to treat you even if you can’t pay… How can we take so much for granted? I don’t think President Obama… Read more »

TIMERUNNER
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TIMERUNNER

It’s gotta be the meds, maybe the AIDS VIRUS? meds?

EchoMike
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EchoMike

Here’s a question….
If Govt is responsible for other people’s success, can it then be said that government is also responsible for other people’s failures?
I mean if the govt education system gets credit for making me so smart I was able to open a successful business, can’t we then say that the stoned out 30 year old working at a record store is the product of the same govt educational system?
If so then you still have to acknowledge that the only true value that is created, is the value created by the labor of the induvidual, not some mediocre service provided by the govt.

Yazz55
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Yazz55

This marxist concept that economic growth is a zero sum game, is just simply a lie, misinformation and outright deception. That in order for one person to make money, he/she has to steal it from someone else. That there is just no concept of honestly working hard and smart to be earning money under marxist dogma.

This lie is in clear opposition to any notion of economic growth.

Tony Konte
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Tony Konte

That piece of excrement has NO respect for me and I have no respect for him! What an insult! the government did NOTHING to help me! and I don’t want any help from the government other then stay the hell out of my business! including my healthcare!

Sinsonta
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Sinsonta

We better watch out, a lunatic radical ideologue is on the loose!!

ceblab
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ceblab

Al Gore invented the internet with his own money! Geesh, doesn’t this guy no anything!!!

ceblab
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ceblab

Doesn’t he know anything?!!! Al Gore invented the internet with his own money!!! Geesh!

NYGino
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NYGino

Guess he didn’t need anybody fainting today. He was in his ‘preacher’ mode, talking loud and fast with the right amount of body bopping as emphasis. Amazing how the illusion of the frame can cover up the distortion of the picture.

chatterbox365
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chatterbox365

Is that so, Obama?? And how the f**k did government become so massive? How was the government able to build those f**king roads and bridges, provide free education and financial aid programs for college, and employ all these “wonderful” liberal teachers and professors who do nothing more but indoctrinate? Who is paying your salary Obama and who is flipping the bill for your campaigning trips…oh, excuse me…while you travel on “official” business.

I owe my own business and I had no help from the government. I saved my wages I earned and launched my business myself and built it myself. And yes, I am going to drive on the f**king road because I paid for it along with all the other hardworking business owners. We don’t owe you sh*t Obama…you owe us, b*tch!

I needed to get that off my chest. Peace! =D

12grace
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12grace

Obama: Successful people didn’t make it on their own

President Obama made the blatantly non-American comment last week that successful people are only successful because they had government providing roads for them. He said you didn’t achieve that business success — someone else did. Glenn rips Obama’s logic apart on radio today.

http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/07/16/obama-successful-people-didn%E2%80%99t-make-it-on-their-own/

PS
More BS leftist propaganda.

xlogic1013
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xlogic1013

I will bet you that Obama never took a class in economics. What he said over the weekend makes me furious. I am not nor will I be part of a collective. I am not Borg. I am an American who wants to strive in the future without worrying about being penalized for achieving my goals. People need to be careful what they wish for. They might get it with a price.

nuffsaid
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nuffsaid

He makes a good case for raising taxes on blacks and women who took advantage of their race or gender to advance themselves in jobs over people who had actually earned the promotions and to enter universities ahead of applicants who had actually done the work to qualify themselves for entry.

These people do not deserved what they have. Somebody else did it for them and under these laws someone will always be doing it for them.

Good job BO, you stupid wh***.

NYGino
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NYGino

WFM, your comment is another perfect example of the regime’s penchant for “unintended consequences”. Nice job of following his BS to a logical and self damaging conclusion.

12grace
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12grace

Excellent post, RS! Thank You.

12grace
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12grace

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whitewolf2009
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whitewolf2009

NObama is the first president that I know of that can take tax payers money (not Governments) and spend it like it was his own and actually have the audacity to expect us to thank him for it! Socialists for you, very good at spending other people’s money.

Says the top 1% (notice he’s saying top 2% lately, soon it will be top 5% or some such) isn’t paying their fair share… Well, what about the bottom 50%? When are they going to give a little and not just be parasites taking all they can get and contributing zero?! When are they going to pay their fair share NObama?

Army_Pilot1967
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Army_Pilot1967

Whitewolf, I think we know the answer to your question about when is the bottom 50 percent going to start paying some taxes….NEVER! They’re going to continue to suck from the government teat as long as they can, which means forever or until this once-great nation of ours goes bankrupt. They would take the last dime and let the country disappear, rather than pay any kind of income tax to help reduce the financial hole we’re in. I know there are people truly hurting financially during this time, but how do you separate those from the ones that just want something for nothing? The moochers are killing this country!!!

whitewolf2009
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whitewolf2009

They have NO shame. NO honor, NO pride. NO..Bama supporters!

All welfare programs should be means tested. That would be a start. If someone has a car, a place to stay, a xbox a big screen for it, and air conditioning. They are NOT poor and should get SFA from the tax payer. But like you say, true cases need a safety net… Right now they have a hammock and are on permanent holiday at our expense!

1970greenie
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1970greenie

As a 1% type, I paid 42% of my income to the government in one way or another last year not counting things like sales tax and gasoline tax. Would someone please give me the fair share percentage. With my left over I bulit a garage, landscaped and painted my house. And as far as I remember, I paid people to do those things. But somehow that was not creating jobs. Had there been more leftover I would have gone for a new car instead of a five year old car. But again, only PBO can create jobs.

AND BTW, an 800 billion dollar stimulus should have created 3 million jobs at $80,000 per year for three years! Where are all of those jobs???

Libertyship46
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Libertyship46

Obama, the first true socialist we ever had as president. This guy makes Franklin Roosevelt look like Henry Ford. Obama wants the people dependent on the government for everything, just like any rank socialist. Time to put HIM out of business in November.

stevenbiot
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stevenbiot

I think Obama and FDR are even in the who wants to be remembered as the greatest Socialist president in US history category. FDR’s policies caused and lengthened the Great Depression. FDR’s works programs slapped the private sector solution to getting out of the depression right across the face. Obama is just a plain idiot with zero private sector experience, who has recently, thanks to Justice Roberts, added one more entitlement to the handout cache burdening our great society. Long gone are the days of free-market enterprise. Let’s roll this wanker in November. Hopefully, the drones will realize that it is too much work to get out the vote twice for someone so inept.

Cheryl Fallon
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Cheryl Fallon

Obama is speaking like a true academic-never really understanding the “hard work” and creativity it takes to own or run a business large or small. His ideas are based on ideological theories that of course has been tried and has failed. It is only in freedom that man utilizes his creativity given to him by God. Obama MUST go in November!

Don
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Don

Obama has gone from being totally incompetent to borderline insane. His basis for his attack on small buisnesses and the resulting high unemployment associated with that is definitely beyond his comprehenison. When/if Obamacare is established then what we are enduring now will be like a walk in the park. The nightmare is just beginning.

stevenbiot
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stevenbiot

The Marxist problem we have in the White House is only the tip of the iceberg. What scares me is that over 40% of the population of the greatest nation on God’s green earth believe the nonsense spewed by our Marxist “leader.” The only business owners who oblige the president are waiting patiently to profit from government kickbacks. If so-called wealthy individuals want to give back, they should donate their money, voluntarily, to the IRS, leaving my money alone. Nobody’s claiming that they didn’t have help creating a profitable business. But, individuals that grew their businesses from the despicable process of government picking winners and losers should be ashamed of themselves.

Kordane
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Kordane

Read through this article posted by the Ayn Rand institute about Obama’s latest remarks – http://capitalism.aynrand.org/president-of-the-united-states-james-taggart/

Good stuff.

nuffsaid
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nuffsaid

How do you make a raspberry noise on scoop? “____________, Obama!” What a moron. Who does he think will believe this? You’d have to be as obtuse as Obama to buy any of this. I mean I really believe that this reptilian has absolutely no idea in his private HELL what hard work is.

How do you get this stupid? I think the years of marijuana during the years when Obama’s skull was still soft, had something to do with it. He’s like a character in a screen play wrote when he was still in the “chooms.”

Somebody, please, call the paralegals!

Sentinel
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Sentinel

Great comments Scoop!!! I can’t listen to this false prophet so I’ll react from your post. Obama is poisoned water… he seems refreshing but he’ll kill you in the end. His oasis is a mirage. His words and promises are an illusion. He is poison wrapped in a candy-coated shell… a bitter pill wrapped in a bitter pill. Alright… enough metaphors. Obama is simply unqualified to be in the big chair. He is ignorant of how the economy works and how America works. He is incompetent and has single-handedly ruined much that was healthy and good about this country. If the dumbmasses don’t quickly learn up about this idiot, then America is doomed. His philosophy is so wrong and twisted… it’s obvious to those of us who didn’t sip from his cup. Shake the sleeping ones and make them listen and learn. Because if they keep going back to this… Read more »

EchoMike
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EchoMike

Take this and ram it down his throat.
Make an add and tell plumbers, landscapers, bakers, chefs, mechanics, carpenters, electricians, etc etc, that took a risk, worked hard, got up at the crack of dawn, and didn’t come home till afterdark, that their success was only possible because of government… not their determination, hard work, stress, and sweat equity to build something from nothing.
YOU DIDN’T DO THAT ON YOUR OWN, AND HOW SELFISH TO NOT GIVE OBAMA HIS DUE CREDIT!!!

Army_Pilot1967
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Army_Pilot1967

As if “Free Ride” Obama would know what it takes to actually build a business. He’s so out of touch with reality…what a joke!!!!!

NCHokie02
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NCHokie02

“there are a lot of wealthy successful people that agree with me and want to give something back.” They are free to give back as much as they want. It doesn’t require forcing others to give back more than they want. And no the gov’t didn’t create internet so private business could use it as a new marketplace it was created to become a server for the military to be interconnected between continents and be able to streamline communication between all aspects of the military. Private sector picked up on it with their better ideas and better computers and advanced the internet way farther than any gov’t entity ever would have. Saying someone wouldn’t be rich if they didn’t have that bridge they drive over on their way to work so they owe the bridge builder?? One, the owner of that construction company is most likely rich. What does he… Read more »

Kordane
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Kordane

Ok Obama, if “the rich didn’t become rich on their own”, then tell us the following:

a) Which particular individuals (names) are you on about when you say “the rich”?
b) Who or what is owed money by each individual?
c) How much are they owed?
d) For what specific goods/services are they owed?

I want SPECIFICS, not abstract claims of liabilities that only seem to exist in your mind.

Ask this of the Left every time they bring up this Elizabeth Warren rhetoric. Don’t let them hide behind ambiguity. Force them to admit that they don’t have ANY sodding answers to any of those questions.

nuffsaid
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nuffsaid

This kind of entitlement finger pointing, whining crap has worked very well over and over in 3rd world countries over the last 70 years.

Many of those living in this country now migrated here from world 3 within that time frame. We can only pray that they remember these lies, distortions and hollow rhetoric and respond with vision.

WestGAFlash
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WestGAFlash

Hmmmmm. T. Boone Pickens, H. Ross Perot and Steve Jobs all quickly come to mind. The article implies that all three were suckling off the Gub’mint teat to get their businesses off the ground.

Sophistry, tripe and more liberal bilge.

Jude O'Connor
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Jude O'Connor

How on earth would this man have any knowledge about working for a living that had his entire education and upbringing paid for by other than himself? It’s interesting to note how a narcissist thinks and acts, him being a classic case.

Cheryl Fallon
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Cheryl Fallon

That’s why he says what he does-he hasn’t earned anything-he has been given everything! A friend sent this the other day to me. I thought it was most telling and quite sad about human nature!

The Food Stamp Program, administered by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, is proud to be distributing the greatest amount of free meals and food stamps ever.

Meanwhile, the National Park Service, administered by the U.S. Department of the Interior, asks us to “Please Do Not Feed the Animals.”

Their stated reason for the policy is because the animals will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care of themselves.

This ends today’s lesson.

NYGino
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NYGino

This is one of the hidden benefits of following the ‘Adventures and Destructive Escapades of The One”.. You get a free education in the warped mind of a narcissistic criminal. And you get to watch it live and in living color.

Kordane
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Kordane

Obama: “The rich need to pay their fair share because they didn’t become rich on their own

Translation: People with wealth must be forced by the government to surrender more of their wealth, because some part of that success came from government services they paid for, and private labor they paid for. Government wants more of that wealth, because Obama thinks that wealthy people haven’t been sacrificed enough for the sake of big government.

Kelly
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Kelly

This is a well-written piece.

PVG
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PVG

First of all, I cannot stand that phony dialect or whatever it is that he cops when he’s talking (lying) to a crowd. Notice he’s not talking jobs anymore. I guess his laser beam focus went the way of Solyndra. DOA!

NYGino
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NYGino

PVG. he’s a chameleon. He’s a phony. He has no truth in himself whatsoever. He adapts to the crowd in front of him and tells them what they want to hear. He has no shame in being a liar, lies are simply a tool to him.

kong1967
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kong1967

Go back to Kenya you socialist, Marxist bastard!!

Go cry in your beer you stupid liberals, because…yes….I called him a SOCIALIST!

Mr. Obama, you didn’t get into office by yourself, so I want you to distribute your paycheck between 300 million people. Without the people, you wouldn’t be where you are. Someone made those shoes you’re wearing, so send them a few hundred thousand bucks. Your suit, send them a couple million.

I’m sure Bill Clinton thinks you’re the biggest joke this country has ever seen, and he’s probably happy that you’ve made him look good. I hate your guts, Obama. You are worth less to this country than toilet paper after I wipe my ass with it!!!

whitewolf2009
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whitewolf2009

Stop being coy and tell us how you really feel? BTW, GREAT POST!

kong1967
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kong1967

You feel exactly the same way, lol.

whitewolf2009
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whitewolf2009

Don’t we all!? smile

kong1967
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kong1967

Yep.

Boris Badenov
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Boris Badenov

By George I think he’s got it..

sjmom
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sjmom

It disgusts me to hear Obama talking about working together when he, more than anyone, has divided us as a people with his class warfare rhetoric. What will he do when he taxes the rich into poverty and then there is NO money? Ah, his goal exposed because then he can crown himself “heir” dictator.

Doors Xp
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Doors Xp

That is some Nobel-Prize-winning obfuscation by Obama.

welltempered2
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welltempered2

He’s right! Only together can we defeat this creep.

Brian Skinner
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Brian Skinner

Is Barack Obama as dumb as he appears? He actually said that since Bill Clinton raised taxes the economy did well. Anyone with the brain knows that there where multiple factors that caused the economy to do well. For Barack Obama’s information the internet was invented in 1969 and the only reason it is feasible now is because the private sector invented the microprocessor and the personal computer. The government was focusing on building computers that take up an entire room. Another thing people forget is that when the soviet union fell it opened up a huge market for us to engage in trade with.

keyesforpres
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keyesforpres

The economy would have done even better if Clinton hadn’t raised taxes. It did well in spite of his taxes.

Theconservativechic
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Theconservativechic

I pray to GOD that when he loses this election that he gets EVERYTHNG he deserves coming to him that he did wrong. And when he DOES lose this  election, it will wipe that stupid grin off his arrogant face!   Pride cometh before the fall….  You reap what you sow.  

keyesforpres
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keyesforpres

He should spend the rest of his life in jail. He is a usurper and everything he’s sign is null and void. He also should have to return every dime payed to him while usurping the presidency. It’s quite possible he was illegally holding his senate positions too, as I think he’s a citizen of Indonesia.

PVG
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PVG

If he is found guilty of anything, he should forfeit his pension, healthcare, and anything else taxpayers are funding. He can pay for his own protection too. He will need it!! CREEP!

Jay Johnstone
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Jay Johnstone

You know who needs to pay their fair share? The 51% who pay nothing. How about the Obama leaches who get welfare, section 8, food stamps, medicade, how much are they paying??

So the Obama voters pay nothing and take take take from the system and yet I’m not paying my fair share?

Barack Obama is a Marxist. Period End of Story.

williamm
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Many of the estimated 47% that pay nothing are people that paid into SS for close to half a century. They are getting back what they paid into. They are not takers. Tax reform is not the answer right now. The answer is JOBS JOBS JOBS. Jobs will increase the % of people paying into the system. People like Obama thinks increasing the tax on the wealthy is the answer and we republicans think taxing the working poor will fix everything. Neither way will work. Hearing Obama say the wealthy need to pay their fair share really angers me since they are paying their fair share plus paying the share for the welfare and food stamp cheats. We need to crack down on welfare, food stamp, and Medicaid fraud. Of course Obama will fight us on this because he wants the majority of Americans depending on the government from the… Read more »

Jay Johnstone
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Jay Johnstone

I didn’t included SS. I should have made the distinction. Taxes are about Jobs, jobs, jobs. Money in the hands of the private economy goes to either investment or spending both of which create jobs.

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