POWERFUL: Children born out of rape stand with Richard Mourdock and his views on abortion

This is really, really powerful. These women who were born out of rape stand up to support Richard Mourdock and his views on abortion and make clear that the reason they are alive is because their innocent lives were protected by law.

Get a kleenex because you’re probably gonna need it. This is a must watch:



(h/t: Mark Levin)

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Jeff Bruning
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Jeff Bruning

Certainly adds some perspective to the discussion. I still believe people, politicians especially, should choose their words carefully. It is easy to sound insensitive and uncaring. Still, I have to agree with those on the video.

ssenecal5000
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ssenecal5000

My grandmother was a product of rape….her mother (my great grandmother)) had been raped as a young girl
My first memory as a baby was of my great grandmother, her smiling face , horn rimmed glasses and soothing voice.
She has a long life filled with family and love and no regrets

A Yahoo! user
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A Yahoo! user

All of you please listen and forget the rhetoric.
Joe Donnelly is of of the party for women yet women suffer worse from unemployment
and joe only can concern himself with abortion.
Joes party claims to be on the side of women yet is backed by the likes of Larry Flint who makes his fortunes from treating women like animals.
NOW PLEASE look up what those children who were born from rape are saying. They are the ones the democrats wish to marginalize and treat a throw aways, is this the party that really cares about the down trodden I dont believe so.
http://www.therightscoop.com/powerful-children-born-out-of-rape-stand-with-richard-mourdock-and-his-views-on-abortion/

Brad Herrick
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Brad Herrick

Again, people trying to impose their wills on others.

“Save the rape babies…to Hell with the mothers.” “I DON’T care what your religion allows…it’s MY way or I’ll kill you.” “Save the unborn…but screw the 1 in 5 children in the US that go to bed hungry each night.”

US christian = hypocrite = Repuglican

Locke
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Locke

The freedom to do something is not the same as being forced to do something. Next time you are exercising your freedom to own a gun do the world a favor and exercise your freedom to shoot yourself. Pray to your god before you do it and ask him to protect you.

Bombs And Dollars
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Bombs And Dollars

This election should be about the economy, not about Obama’s so-called War on Women.

4_barbjean_4
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4_barbjean_4

richard mourdock yea fxxxing pig and i bet he can’t hardly keep his zipper up in anticipation of getting his hands on poor women’s chlldren. use to they hung around park rest rooms and schools now they get in congress. come on that’s what this is really all about cause once they are here they can starve except these children become part of the sex trade. you know they have said they are taking children from the poor if they have no jobs or way to feed the children.

Beal
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Beal

You are a hate filled sick individual.

4_barbjean_4
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4_barbjean_4

can’t take the truth huh ? tell me do you ever tell the truth about the Bible and Moses ? old testament numbers chapter 31 . Moses had his troops kill thousands of women half probably pregnant and every male child killed and based on number of little girls must have been at least 25,000 up boys baby’s and teens and in between ages and they used swords and then he gave the little girls the virgins’ to the men over 32,000 and some were babies but back then if over three years old it was okay. Moses claimed God ordered this but he was always big on God talking to him. and the little girls were for rape. do not try to justify it that they just wanted them as servants you know better and king Herod ? he probably had twenty boys killed. so who is sick ?… Read more »

Beal
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Beal

My statement stands……

4_barbjean_4
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4_barbjean_4

well your a idiot. and anyone would take a kid from me it would be the last thing they did on this earth and other women agree with me.

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

Frankly, based on your spelling, grammar and a clear lack of understanding of how wars were fought in ancient times, speak volumes about your own willful ignorance. Based on this assessment, I’m going to give you some extra free time to work on that pathetic excuse of an education you’ve had, bye troll.

A Yahoo! user
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A Yahoo! user

Abortion has killed millions of little girls so you have not bearing on this issue.

Marie
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Marie

Wow, you’re an idiot.

Let’s talk about the atrocities committed by atheistic regimes like the communist Soviet Union, or communist China. Christianity does not have a monopoly on atrocities.

You’ve been around a long time, but have apparently learned nothing. Hell, you can’t even spell or write properly.

wodiej
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wodiej

I’m sure they are glad to be alive. I wonder how they feel that they were born from a violent act or that their mother was impregnated by a evil person. If God wants a soul to get here, they will get here.

Why is it ok to abort if a mother’s life is in danger but not if a woman is violently raped? Can’t have it both ways.

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

You are mixing up the ideas of ‘okay’ and ‘necessary’. Even though our society tries to tell us abortion is ‘okay’, it’s not. Unfortunately, sometimes it’s necessary, when there is no other way. Abortion from a rape is not even close to being in the realm of ‘no other way’.

Rshill7
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Rshill7

They don’t have it both ways wodiej. They have it all ways. Abortion is legal regardless of the reason or the absence of reason. To the left, abortion is always right. Your last two lines are weird. Maybe it came out wrong.

mkp03
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mkp03

WOW! My daughter would not be here if her biological grandmother had been aborted b/c she was conceived as a result of rape. A child is never responsible for the sins of the parent.

dabbobean
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dabbobean

This was very powerful….and ended up requiring at least two tissues to watch.

mediaaccess1
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mediaaccess1

Why do these things come out so late?

jenndee
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jenndee

They brought it out because of his supposed “gaffe” and the use of Mr. Mourdock’s faith by his opponent to paint him as an extremist. I am from Southern Indiana and have had the pleasure of meeting Mr. Mourdock a handful of times. I believe God is making him a voice for the Pro-life movement and there is no one better to put in the middle of this political firestorm. He is a strong, moral, man of God who doesn’t back down. I will be one blessed Hossier when he is my Senator.

nibblesyble
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nibblesyble

One kleenex Scoop? Try the whole box!

Cindy08
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Cindy08

This is powerful: “A child should not be executed for the sin of his father”. This is indeed very powerful!

Libertyship46
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Libertyship46

I saw a video of something similar to this about a woman who, as a fetus, survived a failed abortion and grew up to be a fine woman and a motivational speaker. It was very powerful. Just shows you that all life is precious and has a vast amount of potential.

conservativemama
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conservativemama

The other day, quite by chance I caught the movie “Rob Roy” on tv. Great movie. Liam Neeson. Jessica Lange, playing his wife, is raped by the bad guy. She later finds she is pregnant but tells her husband she’s not sure who the father is. She tells her husband she could not end the pregnancy because she couldn’t bear to kill the child, to which he answers, “It’s not the child that needs killing.”

StandingGround
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StandingGround

“It’s not the child that needs killing.”

Love that, conservativemama…

…and the movie!

Sam Anello
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Sam Anello

Murdock in the Primary, Murdock in the General, Murdock in 6 Years.

80s_kid_wants_rainbow_back
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80s_kid_wants_rainbow_back

“A child should not be executed because of the crimes of her father”. Very powerful statement. And no child should be executed due to the carelessness of his or her parents either.

kelli
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kelli

Very moving in a very powerful way.
These women are as brave as their mothers.
It’s very obvious they enjoy the Grace of God in their lives, a blessing indeed.

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

Abortion should never be an option of convenience. Situations happen in life where a person’s life is forfeited for whatever medical reason, but that doesn’t make it good. One crime (rape) doesn’t in itself condone a second crime (abortion).

If pro-choice advocates knew more abortion survivors, perhaps they would realize that it’s a life we’re talking about here. If a woman gets pregnant to have a child, but then finds out that it’s twins, does she then have the right to kill one of them if she prefers only one?

I don’t know anybody who would agree with that. And if they did, there is something terribly, terribly wrong with them.

Drew Landry
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Drew Landry

This is simplifying the argument. I trust women and if they decide to do what these brave women interviewed above did, great. If they chose to give the child up for adoption, great. If they chose to abort the pregnancy, fine. No one is saying that they have to abort because they were raped, rather the argument is that the option should be there in that horrific event.

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

I think you are simplifying the argument, by taking the murder out of the equation. Why must it be an option to kill, when there are other options available should the woman choose not to want the child? Why must the child always be convicted and executed in this case, when they are guilty of nothing more than being?

Drew Landry
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Drew Landry

Well Nukeman60, I will assume you are a man and will never know what it is like to be raped and be forced to carry your attacker’s child. You and I will never face that. What these women in the video did is nothing short of brave, but why should a woman be forced to do that? The option should be there and if the woman who makes the decision to abort the pregnancy because of rape they should not be called hideous words like “murderer,” because I am sure that woman has endured enough.

nibblesyble
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nibblesyble

Well Drew I am a woman and I agree with Nuke, we must care about both the woman and the child. Notice how some of those women in the Ad are only here because of the law that protected them.

Drew Landry
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Drew Landry

Nibblesyble, you are suggesting that women do not consider any of those aspects. I will suggest that they do because I will never doubt the mind of a woman. It is great that women want to carry their attacker’s child to full term but those who do not should not be vilified like they are Charles Manson.

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

Nibblesyble, you are suggesting that women do not consider any of those aspects‘ – d l

No, she’s not. She’s suggesting that we care about the woman and the child. Destroying the child is in no way caring about it, no matter how much you spin it.

Drew Landry
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Drew Landry

Nukeman60, first of all, look at her comment and think about it. Second of all, I am trying to have an adult conversation about this tough issue so if you desire to label what I am saying as “spin,” you need to rethink your words.

I do not know how any woman could possibly feel after being raped and then learning she is pregnant with her attacker’s child. At the same time, I do not know if I could allow my wife or daughter to get one. This is such a difficult issue that it requires some deep thinking.

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

So you are then saying that destroying a child is caring about it? I’m having an adult conversation about abortion being wrong, while you are attempting to say it’s a viable solution to the result of rape. Abortion is a serious condition in this country. Roughly 16,000 abortions of the 1.5 million performed yearly come from the result of rape. Liberals like to center the abortion issue on the cases of rape, when it amounts to 1% of all our abortions yearly. Killing the child does not alleviate the horror of the rape, as many of these rape victims will tell you, if you should ask them. The woman has been violated and she will need much counseling, family care, and help all around. Even then, her life is ruined due to this terrible crime. In many of the cases, the ruination of her life is compounded by the destruction… Read more »

Drew Landry
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Drew Landry

I do not know from where you got that because I said nothing of that in my recent post.

I said I am fine with the option being there; I never said the woman must have an abortion. Having stated that, if abortions were limited to the cases of rape, incest, and to save the life of the mother, then they would be rare.

I agree with you that an abortion is not the smoking gun solution to rape; I do not know if one exists. If the raped woman decides that she cannot continue the pregnancy, then the option for her to do that is something I am fine with.

I think it is great that you believe you are speaking for unborn babies. I trust women in this situation and if they feel like this is the best decision, then let them carry it out.

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

I trust women in this situation and if they feel like this is the best decision, then let them carry it out.‘ – d l

Some women also believe that suicide is the answer to having been raped. As with killing the child, are you then also okay with the solution of killing themselves? I differ in that, because I feel there are other, better options than killing, one way or the other. The situation for the woman is indeed intense and horrific, but to just say, “hey, that’s what they want to do, it’s fine” is rather obtuse. Many women have seen the positive results of not carrying through with those ultimate and finite decisions and these women in the video are a testament to that.

Drew Landry
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Drew Landry

There is no question the mothers of these women were brave and deserve the kudos. I agree with you in there are better options than an abortion, but we differ in the idea that women should be forced to carry their attacker’s child. As I stated before, I do not know if I could endorse my daughter or wife getting an abortion but I am just OK with the option.

As for the suicide idea, women who were raped need as much counseling as they can get. I hope they feel like they can talk to someone and come out of the other end of it and avoid suicide as much as they can.

I hope they neither choose suicide nor abortion.

nibblesyble
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nibblesyble

Actually Drew, I am not suggesting any such thing, nor am I suggesting that women who do abort their babies be treated like Charles Manson. I am afraid I cannot have a debate with you on the matter if you attribute such things to my person, indeed I obviously come across to you as an uncaring monster to your caring, tolerant, new age guy.

Drew Landry
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Drew Landry

Nibblesyble, I certainly did not intend to come off as condescending or arrogant or anything like that. The biggest problem with this is the failed interpretation of tone and I do not have that kind of tone with this issue. It is too difficult and deserves a real conversation and I indeed apologize if I came off that way to you.

nibblesyble
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nibblesyble

I appreciate that Drew. I come from Canada where abortion is free and plentiful. I knew girls in my High School who used the system 3 or 4 times as a form of birth control. My own sister had one. Did it make me sad and angry? Yes, but I never treated them badly. I have never met a lady who had one because of rape, nor can I truly know the absolute pain and torture she would have gone through. I care for both that woman and that child..that is all I am saying.

wodiej
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wodiej

God does not give us the right to condemn other people whether we agree w them or not. How is it caring for the woman that got violently raped? It isn’t.

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

God also does not give us the right to destroy defenseless, unborn babies at our leisure, but we do it anyway. There will be dues to pay in the end.

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

The whole problem is that our society as a whole has deemed abortion legal and acceptable. That doesn’t take away from the fact that it is still killing an innocent, defenseless child. The rape is one horrendous incident. The abortion is a totally different, yet equally horrendous, incident. We shouldn’t group the two together. If abortion as a convenience wasn’t so acceptable, people may just start looking at viable alternatives to the problem of an unwanted child. While you, as a man, will never know what it is to have to carry a rapist’s child, you will also not be able to understand what it’s like to destroy your child, a living human being. Compounding the crime doesn’t necessarily alleviate the horror. And being a man or a woman doesn’t detract one way or the other from having a caring, intelligent point of view. This liberal viewpoint of only woman… Read more »

Rshill7
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Rshill7

Right. Here’s something that really nauseates me about lefties. Almost without variance, they will be simultaneously pro-abortion yet anti-death penalty. In other words, they would allow the incomparably guilty to live in every case, but be cool with killing incomparable innocence in every case.

Drew Landry
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Drew Landry

Rshill7, I do not know if you are calling me a “lefty,” but I am neither “pro – abortion” nor “anti – death penalty.” I am trying to have an adult conversation here, so it would be nice if you could join me.

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

I don’t know why you keep saying to people that disagree with you that you are having an adult conversation and they are not. Well, actually, I do, as I have studied both Rules for Radicals by Alinsky and The Little Blue Book by Lakoff and those techniques don’t work.

Try responding to the points people make to you and maybe we can continue the adult conversation. Understand that if you profess ‘lefty’ points of contention, then it’s natural that people would assume you are in agreement with them.

Drew Landry
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Drew Landry

I only typed it twice and you and I are having nice conversation about this. I find it productive.

Rshill7
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Rshill7

I didn’t even read your comment. I was responding to Nuke. However, if you found a shoe or two in my post that fit, please wear them, with my compliments.

stage9
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stage9

Notice there’s one continuous theme: God = Life

patriot077
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patriot077

So true. But can even those who do not believe in God actually believe that the baby is not a life? That it isn’t a clump of cells? Ultrasounds at an early stage reveal a B.A.B.Y. not a lump of tissue. I think you would have to shut your brain and your heart to these truths to go through with an abortion. Today’s technology is too advanced from the days of the Roe decision to give anyone the benefit of the doubt.

I’ve said on this site before that I witnessed my grandson’s ultrasound and was thrilled that I recognized him when he was born. A miracle; a child of God.

Susitna
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Susitna

Why doesn’t these kind of organizations get more attention in the media? I only hear about Planned Parenthood as if this was the only choice for us women. We should spend more time talking to each other on how we can help women in crisis or families in crisis instead of talking all the time about abortion. Let’s talk about how precious life is!

MiketheMarine
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MiketheMarine

Because there is no media. Only a marxist propaganda arm.

Susitna
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Susitna

I was thinking all day long…..we have to launch our own 100% conservative media.

Is_Sense_Common
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Is_Sense_Common

PP is government funded and has “unlimited” funds for advertising and promotions. They really don’t have to worry about running out of money because Uncle Sam will just send them another check – they have no accountability.

Privately funded organizations have actual budgets and we try very hard to ensure that every dollar we have is used to directly assist the person. There’s a case to be made for investing in PR, but it’s hard to take those precious dollars away from the direct help it can provide to a real, live human in need.

Susitna
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Susitna

We have to change that. In Spain blind people have launched a national lottery. We could also launch a “family in crisis lottery” as soon as the economy recovers. The word of institutions that can help has to get more attention. Definitely!
I mean Planned Parenthood is as popular as Coca Cola!!??

stage9
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stage9

Because we live in a Post-Christian, secular culture. Christianity is evil apparently but adopting the secular mindset that murdering the unborn is a “right” has become virtuous. This is the mentality of all secular elites. When you abandon God, it isn’t that you wind up believing in nothing, it’s that you wind up believing in just about anything. Need I remind everyone, that before Christianity came along and ended it, pagan cultures would often bring their unwanted infants out into the cold forests of Europe and abandon them to the elements. Some would drown them. Others would do far more awful things. It was said in Rome that “even in Rome being born was an adventure”. Secular radicals are leading us back to the days of barbarism. The days before Christianity civilized the Western world and made morality a top priority in matters of civic life. Christianity hasn’t been perfect,… Read more »

Susitna
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Susitna

You are absolutely right. We need to get out of the era of darkness and follow the light of God.
And for the ones who don’t believe in God, they have to recognize that the Bible and the moral values therein are good for everyone anyway…….

p m
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p m

Marvellous post, stage9, thank you. Very well said!

Yazz55
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Yazz55

This really makes one think deeply about abortion. Admittedly, when the comment initially hit the political flap, I had some reservation about it. But this piece really clears up any reservations that may have existed.

Interesting that at the end, this organization has a Chicago IL address. Not the type of place one would expect to find this type of organization.

Galatiansch2vs20
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Galatiansch2vs20

What a powerful message from these ladies willing to be living illustrations that every unborn child is created by God and has God-given value! God bless them for putting this message out there and also offering help to those who are wondering what they should do who are pregnant.

practigal
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practigal

It’s become the norm to say “pro-life, except in cases of rape and incest,” because everyone thinks about the suffering of the woman who has been attacked.

Aren’t these women proof that life does, indeed, begin at conception?

Thanks for posting, RS.

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

The saddest part of that philosophy of theirs is that, yes, the woman does suffer due to a rape, but they suffer doubly by killing the chid. Also, whether they kill their child or not, they still suffer from the rape. It doesn’t go away.

Rape is an abomination and abortion is an abomination. Two wrongs never make a right, no matter how much the ‘pro-choicers’ try to sugar-coat it.

MiketheMarine
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MiketheMarine

Funny how it’s these same liberal pinheads that think it is cruel and unusual punishment to castrate a rapist. Seems reasonable to me.

Nukeman60
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Nukeman60

At the very least.

tvlgds
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tvlgds

Or execute violent murderers!!!

famouswolf
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famouswolf

Personally I’ve always been for the death penalty for rape, it’s the only way to be sure they won’t harm a woman again. Because I think the greatest joy a rapist gets is the hurting, and sense of power. Sex is secondary. Like you said earlier, a normal male cannot function under that kind of pressure and strain.

When there is no doubt, death, quick and merciless.

keyesforpres
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keyesforpres

The only problem I have with that is the rapist would be more likely to murder his victim if he knew he would get the death penalty.

famouswolf
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famouswolf

True, but maybe they would also have a second thought about saving their own hide.

Overall I think it would deter most rapes. The ones capable of murder are likely to do so in any case, imo.

There is no perfect solution for things like this, but our present system is far too lax and requires something more drastic if not as drastic as an automatic death sentence for rape. You could argue that any harsher punishment would cause more collateral damage, but I disgree with that viewpoint.

keyesforpres
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keyesforpres

Not saying that brutal rapist don’t deserve the death penalty, it’s just if that is the definite punishment, more of them would murder their victim.

famouswolf
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famouswolf

I know, keyes. I’m really not sure one way or the other. It’s a moot point anyway, as I can’t see such a harsh penalty for rape ever being enacted.

Maybe in some wooly frontier libertarian setting.

keyesforpres
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keyesforpres

I’ve actually heard that having the baby has oftened helped the rape victims.

Rshill7
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Rshill7

I don’t even understand how a man can get an erection during a rape in order to complete the rape. Can’t wrap my mind around that one. That’s probably a good thing.

I am not the first to say this. I heard it somewhere before and will paraphrase:

Too often in our country when there is a rape, we kill the child and let the rapist go free. We should rather kill the rapist and let the child go free.

Amen! God bless you ladies smile

tvlgds
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tvlgds

It’s not about sex, it’s about power, violence, and control. From what I’ve read, many times that’s the only way they CAN get an erection.

Rshill7
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Rshill7

Yikes.

tvlgds
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tvlgds

I’ve been a crime junkie since I was a kid and have read several FBI profiler books, true crime stories, etc. I also watch a lot of crime shows on tv. Some of the books I’ve read, particularly the profilers, haunt me. Some of the stuff is so horrific, I can’t get it out of my head. There was a time I wanted to learn how to do remote viewing, but knowing me, I’d have a really hard time with what I might see, so I opted not to follow that path.

Stewie
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Stewie

I once spent a couple weeks pulling those kind of books from library shelves to the point where I felt weird pulling 3-4 books a week on the same subject matter. Some were really interesting, and I would read about 1 per day. Criminal behavior has always been fascinating to me, as have medical and books on the human body and physiology.

Any chance you remember the really interesting ones? I can’t remember all the books I read, but there were some that really stood out in how they went about dissecting (not literally) the persons behind the crimes- those books are how I learned about the actions of the Weather Underground and some other famous cases.

MiketheMarine
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MiketheMarine

Still, though, to support his comment, if I were under that kind of pressure and strain any normal guy, me included, would not be able to perform the act. Just more proof that rapists are subhuman animals.

tvlgds
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tvlgds

The operative word there is “normal” and these monsters are anything but!

keyesforpres
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keyesforpres

I think it’s both.

p m
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p m

Very moving. Thank you for letting us see these wonderful women and hearing about their equally wonderful mothers. The account of the lady whose mother later developed cancer at such a young age, and could have no more children, was very telling. They are so glad to have each other…

austindpowers89
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austindpowers89

i thought it was very powerful and moving. i only worry about the emphasis on God being a turn off in some more secular people’s minds… I thought the most powerful line was toward the end, with the woman describing the woman raped and the child whose life hangs in the balance, “can’t we love them both?” it’s clear to me that we should, and we should punish those who commit such horrible acts and help prevent future acts of rape and violence.

Galatiansch2vs20
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Galatiansch2vs20

When people try to take God out of the picture, it is natural for life to become devalued.

Rosemary Castanza
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Rosemary Castanza

secular minds are the reason we are discussing this, who cares about secular minds they are the ones behind abortion. Emphasis of God ?whos secular? No God, no baby, no God, no you >Secular does not bring eternal life .Lord dare we worry about secular minds? NO!

austindpowers89
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austindpowers89

my whole point is that we don’t have to convince people who already agree with us… we have to convince people who don’t.

keyesforpres
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keyesforpres

…and that is precisely the point… and why this video is so affective. The way to reach secularists is to try to stir their souls.

austindpowers89
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austindpowers89

i disagree… the way to turn off secularists is to say God’s on our side, so you better join it or burn in hell… that to me is an incredibly weak, unprovable and unconvincing arguement. what’s convincing is these women who were conceived in rape showing that they’re people too, with rights. they go on to lead good lives despite the nature of their conception. and showing it’s our duty as human beings to fight for their right to live.

keyesforpres
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keyesforpres

Oh good grief…where are you getting the “burn in hell” out of this thread? This video shows that all life is precious and it comes from God.

I am so sick of this whining from secularists that they are offended and blah, blah, blah. It is the secularlists that are forcing their non belief on the rest of us.

Has it ever occured to you secularlists that maybe you offend us?

austindpowers89
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austindpowers89

Sorry, i assumed you believe people who go against what you claim is the will of God, go to hell. I’m not forcing non-belief on you. I’m a believer. I’m just trying to point out that you and Rosemary sound like morons saying things like “God IS logic and common sense” “Secular does not bring eternal life” as if they were facts and not personal beliefs. If you guys qualified those statements with “I believe,” like, “I believe, God IS logic and common sense.” “I believe, God has a plan for us all”… I’d have no problem with them. Or you can put something like “the bible says…” in front of your statement, to turn it into an undisputable fact. I just have a problem with people who claim to be prophets, or who claim to speak for God, or claim to know God’s will. esspecially when they try to… Read more »

keyesforpres
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keyesforpres

You’re a real man…calling me a moron. I’ll leave it at that…jerk.

patriot077
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patriot077

To ignore God in the creation of life is to relinquish our natural rights (God Given Rights) to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and accept that our rights instead come from government. And can therefore be taken away by government at any age.

austindpowers89
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austindpowers89

like i said above in response to Rosemary, my whole point is that we don’t have to convince people who already agree with us… we have to convince people who don’t.
some people are rightfully wary of people who claim to speak for God. muslims claim to speak for god. jews claim to speak for god. atheists claim there is no god… how do they know who to believe? the truth is they don’t. in the end it comes down to a personal choice.
in my mind though, our position has more than enough merit, appealing to people’s logic and common sense, not to rely so heavily on evoking God’s name.

keyesforpres
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keyesforpres

God IS logic and common sense.

keyesforpres
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keyesforpres

Who cares if it’s a “turn off to some secular minds”. That is precisely the problem! We are too afraid to talk about God for fear of offending someone!? No one should be offended by talking about God. Quite frankly, that offends me.

FreeThinker1215
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FreeThinker1215

I have yet to meet a believer that is “afraid to talk about God”
And as an atheist, I’m not offended at all to talk about God- any God. It’s when that talk turns into a lecture about how wrong I am for not believing the same things that I get offended. (An issue many atheists will concur with)

keyesforpres
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keyesforpres

Well, hate to break it to you, but there is no gaurantee in life that you won’t be offended sometime.

I am offended that athiests took prayer out of schools (leading to the decline in our morals and opening the door to the godless commies taking over our schools). I am offended that athiest keep suing to take down crosses. I am offended they keep whiping their hinnies with our First Amendment.

FreeThinker1215
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FreeThinker1215

If your specific morals are in decline, why not say, teach them to your own children in the safety of your own home? Last time I checked, it wasn’t up to public schools to lead the masses down the righteous road of religion. Which, if I can deduce from your inability to spell, was the direction your own school took- practicing prayer instead of basic spelling skills. (And it’s athEist, not athIest. Among other misspelled words in your response) Look, you can have all of your religious signs, symbols and beliefs in YOUR home. Take the time to pass on your moral compass at home or in your church. Put a ten foot cross in your front yard, pending HOA approval. Go for it. More power to you. But your personal beliefs don’t belong in a place where it infringes on MY beliefs, my children’s beliefs, or anyone else who… Read more »

keyesforpres
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keyesforpres

Hey UNfreethinker…our schools were founded because our Founders felt our leaders needed to be well versed in the Bible. Harvard, Yale, etc. were founded as seminary schools. The first printing of the Bible in this country was done by Congress.

Whoop dee doo….I mixed up some vowels…typical petty atheist. Good for you….you know how to spell your Godless religion. Typical petty, miserable athEist.

I suggest you learn our Godly heritage. Christianity was taught in our schools before atheists roared through and forced their nonbeliefs on us and in turn quit teaching our Christian history. It’s our history…the Bible…our founding was based on the Bible, our founding documents are based on the Bible…..read our Founders…they talked about God ALL the time.

FreeThinker1215
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FreeThinker1215

You’re right on one account. They did have quite a bit to say. Here’s just a sampling of what they had to comment on about religion. I’ve taken the liberty of citing my sources, so you don’t accuse me of making these up with my godless mind. Thomas Jefferson: -“The Christian god is a three headed monster, cruel, vengeful, and capricious. If one wishes to know more of this raging, three headed beast-like god, one only needs to look at the caliber of people who say they serve him. They are always of two classes: fools and hypocrites.” -“I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature.” -“Is uniformity attainable? Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced an inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the… Read more »

FreeThinker1215
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FreeThinker1215

Also, here’s a rebuttal to your “Congress printing Bibles” comment
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-rodda/no-mr-beck-congress-did-n_b_598698.html

FreeThinker1215
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FreeThinker1215

And while you were correct on your comment regarding Yale, Harvard and other established colleges, let’s take a moment to reflect. They were all established during historical periods where religion was in fact accepted among the masses, even the educated. It was accepted. But- as time moved on, and people began to challenge religious teachings and the lack of credibility it held over scientific research, those schools began to defect.
I’ll save you a lecture, here’s a great summary of how, when and why it happened. http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v2/n3/harvard-yale-princeton-oxford-once-christian

Hmmm, people evolved in their thinking. Imagine that.

Marie
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Marie

The Huffington Post is not a credible source.

Laurel
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Laurel

I would like to hear more from these women…and men! I’m tired of the PC line making exceptions.

StandingGround
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StandingGround

You may like to read about the gentleman in my post in response to colliemom, Laurel.

4Hoppes2
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4Hoppes2

Thank God for these women whose lives, virtues, values, and morals are grounded in a philosophy grounded in a theology and proofed beyond a doubt by science, ( that science rooted in not just the lower case truth but also the Truth) that life begins at conception and remains a human being until natural death.

tvlgds
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tvlgds

Very touching video. I do find it interesting that none of the survivors in the video are male. My fear would be giving birth to someone as evil as the sperm donor rapist.

colliemum
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colliemum

I wondered as well why no males were in this video – but then I thought, they are probably scared to come forward, or may even not have been told.

80s_kid_wants_rainbow_back
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80s_kid_wants_rainbow_back

I know a little boy that is the result of a violent rape pregnancy and he is an absolute sweetheart. His mother is currently fighting to have the rapist “father” rights terminated and she loves her son more than anything in this world.

I can’t imagine how terrifying it must be for those women who are forced into this situation and my admiration for these ladies who choose life is out the roof. I have to believe that all children are redeemable no matter how violent their paternal ” donor” is.

patriot077
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patriot077

My thoughts as well. As a general rule most men are not exactly comfortable recognizing or discussing deep feelings.

StandingGround
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StandingGround

There is a really great Christian minister, James Robison, whose birth mother was raped at 41. His life is a wonderful example of how God took such a horrible act and turned things around for good. Like these ladies, his testimony is powerful and heartwrenching. Many things both good and bad happened in his lifetime that are worth reading. You can check them out here:

http://lifetoday.org/about-life/james-and-betty-robison/

Those brave mothers that choose the life of their baby after such a horrific experience, have a special place in my heart as well.

Laurel
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Laurel

Absolutely fascinating. Thanks for the link. I think Progressives have no faith, and faith is the key. When one lacks it fear replaces it.

FreeThinker1215
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FreeThinker1215

I’d like to know where you are getting your information. I have no fear whatsoever, and I have zero faith in any religion.
Mislead quotes and affirmations are something the religious say when they can’t understand how people can have fulfilling and happy lives without being a mindless sheep.

Laurel
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Laurel

And angry mindless admonitions are what people say who have no faith. Stop wasting my time with your ignorance. Fear is what leads people to snuff children, not compassion.

eli wax
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eli wax

I’m pretty sure there were no men in the video primarily because the video is meant to target women. Men in general care less less about abortion than women. Since it is a video for women they showed other women.

denbren52
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denbren52

This is an immensely powerful message and must be shared widely. This is NOT just an issue in Indiana. Abortion is a national disgrace and an abomination to God.

FreeThinker1215
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FreeThinker1215

Here’s the funny thing though-
Our government is not a Christian-run organization. It’s a governing body meant to provide rules and regulations for ALL- not just those who believe the writings of an ancient book.

If you don’t believe in abortion, guess what? YOU DON’T HAVE TO GET ONE.
No one is forcing you. But don’t tell me what I can or can’t do with my own body. So, you choose to believe what you want, and I choose to believe that you’re full of crap.

It’s the American way.

Marie
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Marie

Don’t force me to pay for one. Under Obamacare, we all have to pay for abortions and of course, federal funding for Planned Parenthood makes it easier for them to provide abortion services.

WhiteGuy2
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WhiteGuy2

Execute the rapist, not the child.

Rosemary Castanza
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Rosemary Castanza

thats what were supposed to do SAYS the Lord .. Rape is the same as murder in Gods eyes Just because the people don’t follow His law down here, does not mean you won’t face the judgement, and to all that allow it to continue in this nation without nipping in the bud like Father demanded, will also be punished

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proudhispanicconservative

People in Indiana don’t know how lucky they are to have a candidate like Richard Murdock, I would love to have someone like him in Florida. I pray to god that November 06 we send this great man to Washington.

Pamela Morgan
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Pamela Morgan

OMG…….the very last line is precious. And you need the Kleenex.

Conservative_Hippie
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Conservative_Hippie

Oh WOW! Very eye-opening!

Dukehoopsfan
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Dukehoopsfan

This should be daily mandatory viewing for the sandra flukes of the world. Powerful and inspiring!

keyesforpres
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keyesforpres

Yes, and remind them that it is the dems that have a ‘war on women’..these women would all be dead if dems had their way.

FreeThinker1215
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FreeThinker1215

Last time I checked, they weren’t FORCING rape victims to have abortions. They are only protecting the right for those who CHOOSE to have them. Big difference.
Pro-choice doesn’t equal Pro-Abortion.

The word choice isn’t synonymous with abortion.

jaspertops
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jaspertops

But where the real violation of choice comes in is where the government forces those of us who are pro life to pay for the abortions of those who are pro choice. Abortion by choice has been legal since Roe v Wade. What is really sad is when the Obama administration can force religious institutions to offer services that goes against their religious convictions and use our tax dollars to fund the abortion mill known as Planned Parenthood.

The preamble to the constitution discussed man being endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights, amoung these being life, liberty, and the pursuit of hapiness. Just remember, without life, the other two are meaningless.

jaspertops
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jaspertops

But the problem here is that the Obama administration is forcing the pro choice agenda on the Catholic Church and other religious organizations with the HHS mandate that forces religious organizations to violate the tenets of their faith by having to offer as employers in hospitals, universities, and religious run charitable organizations contraception, sterilization services, and abortifacient drugs with no charge to the recipient. In addition, by the government providing tax dollars to an abortion mill like Planned Parenthood, they are forcing pro life people to pay for abortions. Pro choice people have been able to make the decision to have a legal abortion since Roe v Wade. But up until the Obama administration, pro life people have not had to pay for it. The preamble to our constitution says that all men are created equal with certain inalienable rights including life, liberty, and the pursuit of hapiness. Without life,… Read more »

PJRodman
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PJRodman

Sniff…moving

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