REPORT: Trump to use LOOPHOLE to bypass Congress for arms sales to Saudi Arabia

It’s being reported now that Trump may use a loophole that allows him to bypass Congress to sale arms to Saudi Arabia:

YAHOO NEWS – The Trump administration is considering an emergency declaration that would allow it to make an arms shipment to Saudi Arabia without the approval of Congress, two U.S. officials and lawmakers opposed to the move said Thursday.

The officials say a decision on invoking a national security waiver in the Arms Export Control Act to bypass congressional review of proposed sales to the Saudis could be made as early as Friday. The officials were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity.

Congressional opposition to U.S. military support for Saudi Arabia has been growing and lawmakers have blocked about $2 billion in arms sales to the kingdom for more than a year due to concerns over civilian casualties in the Saudi-led military operation in Yemen and outrage over the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi in October by Saudi agents.

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who would authorize the waiver, has been considering the step for months, according to the officials. But the matter has become more pressing in recent weeks due to what the administration says are heightened threats from Iran and drone attacks on Saudi oil facilities by Yemen’s Houthi rebels this week.



Yahoo News reports that there is precedent for such a move:

There is precedent for using the emergency exemption for arms sales to Saudi Arabia. President Ronald Reagan invoked it in the 1980s and both Presidents George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush used it for sales before the 1991 Gulf War and the 2003 Iraq war.

According to the NY Post, “The possible $7 billion sale to Saudi Arabia would include precision-guided munitions and combat aircraft, the Times said.”

They also report that under normal circumstances, Congress can still review the sale and block it. With the aggression from Iran, though, I suspect that this won’t constitute ‘normal circumstances’.

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In_Russet_Shadows
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Are we the only people who can arm the Saudis? I’m not really comfortable with this. If it can be avoided it should be.

AT
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The Trump administration is considering an emergency declaration that would allow it to make an arms shipment to Saudi Arabia without the approval of Congress

Yea, that seems to be a thing with him.

No, I don’t care that it has legal precedence or that The Gipper did it. That doesn’t make it right. This is not how our government was designed nor intended, and it jeopardizes the rights of every man, woman, and child that lives under the Constitution when this kind of sh*t is allowed.

Proud_Nimby
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I support bypassing Congress in this instance if there is precedence and it’s legal/lawful. As long as we are not giving them our most secret technologies, I have no problem with supplying them with weapons and war materials from the world’s greatest defense contractors…provided there is no direct threat to our constitution in doing so (even though most Americans don’t give a damn about the constitution anymore).

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I agree. I don’t see the problem in arming allies in that area. We need all the friends we can get to try and keep the middle east as free of conflict as possible. And I’m not talking skirmishes and such, I’m talking the bigger picture.

joyfulgiver
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The officials were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity. exclamation

Buzzkill59
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Under “normal” circumstances the House of Representatives is not a circus with the clowns in charge like it is now!

Thor77
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I can see that a lot of people feel this is the enemy of the enemy and we should not be doing this because it has become less in the back side before. But this is a very different situation and I actually support Trump in this regard.

The big difference between the Saudi‘s and the Taliban is that the Saudi‘s want to stay alive

If the Saudis fell, it would destabilize the region badly. Also MBS & Kushner are buddies, so we have a lot going in here

JL_US
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I think giving arms to Saudi will come back and bit us in the butt. Just like we aided the Taliban against Russia.

Ronbo
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Last time we helped arm an enemy against an enemy, they turned into the Taliban…

Well on a happier note, the Saudis hate Iran more than Israel by a mile so the (unspoken) political dynamic (in the region) is much better for our ally than it’s been since Israel’s creation. Egypt and Jordan are completely on Israel’s side as well. They just can’t telegraph it.

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“I have a bad feeling about this.” Han Solo

I NEVER like giving money or highly technological military equipment to a muslim nation. Even if they are a buffer against an even worse muslim nation.

Dr. Strangelove
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The enemy of our enemy. How has this worked out before?

PVG
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Badly……

Covfefe
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Congress… what a bunch of lazy POSs. They didn’t want to do their job, so they gave away their power to the Executive, and when the Executive became too powerful, they didn’t want to reign it in themselves, so they gave away even more of their power to the courts. To this day we have two branches of government that wield far too much power, and then we have the Legislative which may as well not exist. The founders are rolling in their graves.

jamespubliusmadison
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Congress won’t be happy until Iran is marching through Saudi Arabia on its way to invade Israel.

bigsir74
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Well we can discuss it and its a great decision in bypassing congress to do it.Nice move Mr. President.Take the opportunity to bypass Congress every chance you get

slantry
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Just like the founding fathers would have wanted.

bigsir74
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Thanks ,catch you later.

kong1967
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Avatarslantry The law didn’t make itself and was put there for a reason. RS called it a loophole but it’s a waiver and has been used by other Presidents. That’s not a loophole and the founding fathers have nothing to do with this.

slantry
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Nobody was questioning the pure legality of this nor whence the statutory exemption came. I was responding to the assertion that our president should “bypass congress every chance you get,” which I find a frightening thing to encourage.

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Its quite a pickle we’ve got ourselves in where we think this is what we need to do and then get angry when the courts stop us. That said, its Congresses own doing by allowing the Executive and even the Judicial to become so powerful. What has Congress even done in the last two years besides raise the National debt another nearly 2trillion and change the tax code? They’re useless and lazy, I understand the desire to bypass them. Still, its not right.

kong1967
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CovfefeCovfefe Trump is a symptom. If Congress actually gave a sh** about the country instead of nothing but party power and themselves, Trump never would have been elected. People are sick of Congress, hence the Tea Party which Republicans helped squash. How do we fix it? Trump…a bull in the china shop. I don’t blame Trump for trying to go around Congress when they don’t act. They are useless. Democrats are corrupt to the core and care only about party power. Republicans can’t even agree on the most no-brainer actions like repealing Obamacare after running on it for seven years. The border? Forget it. God forbid we have a crisis that will bring down our entire system because we’ll be screwed.

bigsir74
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Very nice response

kong1967
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Avatarbigsir74 Thank you.

kong1967
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Avatarslantry I think he was just expressing frustration with Congress. They’re a bunch of useless turds. A few good ones can’t carry 535 of them, and it’s a damn shame they put themselves and party power over the citizens and the country.

Looking at the border, for example. This has gotten worse and worse and worse and we’re at crisis levels. Where’s Congress? Playing politics and not giving a sh**. It’s pathetic that Trump is the only one trying to act.

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kong1967kong1967

1) You think that Trump isn’t playing politics?

2) Perhaps the system was intentionally designed so that it would be difficult to get these sorts of things done.

kong1967
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Avatarslantry
(1) The motive and intended goals for politics matters. Trump is the only one trying to do anything about the border and other things. The only thing being done is by him while Congress sits on their thumbs and spins.

(2) Of course the system was designed to keep out wacko solutions. In order for Congress to work properly both parties have to work together in good faith. There are no “good faith” negotiations in Congress with intent to solve problems, thus nothing gets done.

bigsir74
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Nice Information, thanks.

bigsir74
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My comment was bypass congress every chance he gets.Where did I indicate or suggest the President do something illegal.If its legal do it.Why would my comment which you misrepresented to kong frighten you into believing my comment is a frightening thing to encourage.Why didn’t you just say to kong,you are Right I was wrong.Tough for you to do isn’t They still give you 4 up votes for the unclear response

slantry
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Why would I tell him he was right and I was wrong when I was expressing a pure matter of opinion? His comment didn’t tell me anything I didn’t already know, and the substance of my comment still stood.

I have no issue with admitting that I’m wrong when I am wrong.

Dr. Strangelove
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Avatarbigsir74 Sure, let’s just make him Supreme Leader and eliminate Congress altogether. Who needs co-equal branches, anyway?

bigsir74
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What the hell is he supposed to do when you have a McConnell and a Pelosi working against him every step of the way.You bypass them if you can and he did.You are such an occasional jackass in your comments to some,but not too others who will bless you with some of your stupid comments with up votes and I see three of them just did for these nutty sarcastic comments.Hey Dummy have a nice Memorial Day Weekend,oh I forgot you are on the road traveling.

kong1967
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Dr. StrangeloveDr. Strangelove I agree with you that in general we normally should go through Congress, but at the same time I believe there are times they should be bypassed. I think the border is one of those times.

As for this arms deal it’s hard to say…for me. I get why Congress wants to stop the sale. The Saudis are ruthless and killing too many civilians. At the same time if it’s a war that needs to be waged I’m not so sure leaving the Saudis without help is in our best interest. For the time being I stand neutral on this.

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