Rush: I’m stunned that the GOP still doesn’t understand who they are dealing with

Rush opened his show today by noting that after four years of Obama, the inside-the-beltway GOP establishment still doesn’t understand who they’re dealing with because they still believe Obama’s going to concede and begin to cut spending. And Rush wants to know how many core beliefs are we going to give up to get to that misguided idea?



There’s a lot more below, including who Rush says didn’t get taxed among the rich (the asset-wealthy) and why:

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mder4thegov
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mder4thegov

Pat Caddell is absolutely spot on: he repeatedly calls the republican party, the stupid party.
Will they ever wake up?

Old_West
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Old_West

IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776 The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America Slightly amended 1-03-2013 When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form… Read more »

Aaron Burr كفري
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Aaron Burr كفري

Does anybody actually expect the GOP to suddenly rise up like Superman or something? C’mon Rush.

Aaron Burr كفري
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Aaron Burr كفري

I’m stunned Rush still doesn’t understand what the GOP is.

repubboy
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repubboy

Rush you are correct.. These people on the republican side can’t think that they are dealing with a gangster and a liar. Our side can be so dim it is pathetic..
I am very sick of these leaders who have not a clue !

patricia
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patricia

I agree, it’s groundhog day,, nothing good about that deal. We all know why the super wealthy are just getting 5% increase. But really Rush,the real problem is this extra cash isn’t an answer,, no cuts and they have no plans to cut. We’re going to get down graded again.

pmb88
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pmb88

We are still weathering the storm & the question is how long can we hold.

Will the Republicans, especially Boehner realize who they’re dealing with before it’s too late.

gothicreader
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gothicreader

It’s very simple why they don’t understand who they are dealing with. There’s no difference between the two parties.

demographicallychallenged
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demographicallychallenged

My remarks are consistantly removed from this site. I will just remove myself, Goodby.

American Duckie
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American Duckie

They’re still showing up d.c Maybe disqus is messing with you? It’s been messing a lot with some of us lately. Don’t go.

nuffsaid
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nuffsaid

Demog: Right click on you avatar/picture and select Open in new tab. On that screen, click “Activity” and you can see all of your comments

or try this link

http://disqus.com/demographicallychallenged/

Stick around my friend

Biggbear52
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Biggbear52

Our Government is fine. However the people in which we have elected into that position have run absolutely A MUCK. It is time we form the militia our Constitution speaks of to oust the current illegal and evilly corrupt House and Senate in or to form a Constitutional only based Government body. We have no lived in a dictatorial rich for a bit better than 3.5 years since the signing of Obama care. When that farce go into effect, we will be a full blown socialist third world Nation! As of 01/02/2013 77% of American’s are fed up with this administration and that, according to the U.S Constitution, is enough people to oust the fourth Reich. So text, email, blog or do whatever it is you think will help grow attention to WE THE PEOPLE and lets get this done! We do not need arms to achieve this. We merely… Read more »

tshtsh
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tshtsh

He needs to eat the opposite of BigAg, BigPharm and government “research”. If you do not trust the environmental nut jobs why should you believe what they say about food and medicines.

K-Bob
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K-Bob

A random congressman, heck, a random name from the phone book, would do a better job than Boehner.

They should have just done a lottery.

ApplePie101
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ApplePie101

Still holding onto the notion of a confused, outmaneuvered GOP, Rush? It should be plain by now that the party is going along with the Obama program willingly.

cabensg
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cabensg

Another way to look at this isn’t just that they (Repubicans) believe Obama is just another president that will eventually come around. These people are just plain stupid. If they thought this way when Obama first took office (being clueless about him) it would be somewhat understandable, butttttttt it’s been four years of ceaseless attacks on everything America needs to function by a liar. Not just a once in awhile liar politician but a congenital liar. They don’t have a strategy a plan, nothing. They don’t even have enough sense to ask for help in figuring out how to handle him. They’re stupid, brainwashed and useless. Totally useless!!!!!!!

Locks
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Locks

Oh let’s see. The Republicans are the battered women. The Democrats are the battering husbands. The Republicans keep hoping if they try to get along with the batterers the beatings will end.

Ain’t happenin’.

Debby
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Debby

………..and the beatings will continue until morale improves.

1endtimes2020
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1endtimes2020

America is already bankrupt, and still we have a President who doesn’t want to cut spending, except on the military, if you can believe it, and the enablers are the Republicans. What SHOULD be done? Bring back all manufacturing that our manufacturers sent to China. Don’t import any Japanese cars until they buy ours. If they don’t then we can have American cars on our roads, just as before. Make computers and televisions, cameras etc here. All basic, every day products that were Made in USA. Let China sell to iself. They don’t need us. We gave them profits to bankrupt us, while they build a huge military, with over 250 million trained soldiers. Thousands of missiles. They hack our Pentagon computers every day. Our enemies will let us hang ourselves, destroy our economy, and make our military ineffective. Now the Chinese are working on a special bomb that will… Read more »

ChesterWalton
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ChesterWalton

Sounds like you are a big believer in freedom and liberty – military state, oh joy.

1endtimes2020
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1endtimes2020

Freedom and Liberty, yes. Military state, no. What do you think should be done to stop illegal drugs and immigration at the Mexican border? The military assistance is very necessary. What do you think will stop China from invading the U.S. to protect it’s assets? Do you seriously believe it can’t happen?
If you limit your thinking strictly to Left-Right politics, you overlook the causes of our bankruptcy. “Oh joy”? Joy is being sapped out of America and its people. Obviously, it hasn’t affected you — yet.

PhillyCon
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PhillyCon

I disagree. The Republicans know exactly who they are dealing with and are scared to death as a result. Everything else is just for show.

cabensg
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cabensg

Their to stupid to be afraid. They don’t have a clue what to try next. Their idea of handling things is waiting for a crisis then running around in circles trying to figure out how to handle it. This pi$$es me off just as much as seeing the pleasure Obama gets from sending them in circles. Their pathetic. Put all of the Republican House management team together and you still wouldn’t have a whole brain.

PhillyCon
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PhillyCon

They are not all stupid. The Leadership knows there is no way to win against an Alinsky President with the MSM on his side. They don’t have the courage.

(Why do you think Boehner won? No one wanted the job!)

However, I will concede that they are stupid (on some level) b/c they cannot engage the liberal MSM AND the Dems at the same time. They are out of their league.

cabensg
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cabensg

Out of their league. Exactly. That’s why I said stupid but out of their league in over their head what ever you want to call it they are not up to opposing Obama the way he should be opposed. I do agree they have no courage but when your stupid and in over your head that means you can’t come up with a plan of action except to hunker down and hope for the best. The horrible part is Obama is not smart, he’s just persistent. Anyone with half a brain could run circles around him in spite of the MSM.

1endtimes2020
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1endtimes2020

They have no visible reason to be scared to death. If they are, something sinister must be going on that the people don’t know about. They are elected to represent their constituents, and are responsible to keep them informed. Not to hide things from the people as if they were in a private club. Where is the honesty?
If you’re right, America is in much bigger trouble than I thought. With representatives like that, we don’t have a hope in hell to fix our problems, with humans. We can only ask God to help us, and if we don’t deserve His help because of our sinful lifestyles, then we’ve had it.

Watcherinla
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Watcherinla

“We’re running out of core beliefs to throw away.” Very true. The line-up to sell their souls was a long one.

LIBERTYUSA
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LIBERTYUSA

…the REPUBLI(CANT’S) and the DEMOC(RATS) are rowing in synchronization at warp speed to bring the United States of America to its “KNEES” , Economically , Socially , Militarily ,Culturally and most importantly Morally . They are in BED together, making the same soup , speaking the same web of LIES , how much more can the TEA PARTY PATRIOTS stand to see and hear from these LIARS and CROOKS in Washington D.C.! WAKE UP AMERICA it is time for a THIRD WAVE to sweep America and get rid of these LOW INFORMATION POLITICIANS from Congress the Senate and most importantly “THAT MAN” in the Oval Office who is about as smart as a DONKEYS REAR END .”

1endtimes2020
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1endtimes2020

EXCELLENT.

sjmom
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sjmom

So glad El Rushbo is back and look forward to the Great One tonight.

Doug Ross
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Doug Ross

Boehner better be ready to shut down the government over the debt ceiling, because that’s the only card he holds at the moment.

dontdrinkthecoolaid
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dontdrinkthecoolaid

If he doesn’t shut down (the runaway train of) goverment spending, the REP party will cease to exist.

1endtimes2020
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1endtimes2020

Both parties will cease to exist. Communism will take over, when people are broke, and the commies promise money. Then everyone will be chipped with one I.D. number, in a cashless society. If you don’t comply with government rules. your number will be removed from the computer—thus, no buying or selling, just as if you didn’t exist. Don’t believe this? It doesn’t matter what you believe. It’s coming—fast.

dontdrinkthecoolaid
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dontdrinkthecoolaid

The chipping will start to ‘proctect’ school children, then the military…..it’s only a matter of time, Google/Facebook have the data base they just need to institute the ‘passive’ delivery system.

poljunkie
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poljunkie

If only he had the spine to do it.

K-Bob
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K-Bob

It’s in Nancy Pelosi’s purse, along with his b*lls.

poljunkie
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poljunkie

Oh heh now.

That’d be tough. The spine part.

K-Bob
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K-Bob

They roll up, like a little pill bug.

poljunkie
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poljunkie

Now thats just some funny!

ChesterWalton
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ChesterWalton

He needs to pass a bill through the house that has the cuts and reforms R’s want. Then deal with the Senate – a shut down won’t work, Rs will cave.

Bunjy
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Bunjy

I don’t believe they’re naive. I believe they are complicit. Nothing else explains what’s going on, besides sheer ineptitude and I’m finding that hard to accept.

aposematic
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aposematic

I agree. I think they pretend to be opposition while all along knowing they will cave in to all the D’s/Obuma schemes. As long as they get to add their own pork, that is. anyway, how many times will: it was too late, its all we had left, its all we could do, etc., etc., pass mustard.

Carolyn Dixon
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Carolyn Dixon

the senate members were given only three minutes to read the fiscal cliff bill that had perks in it for nascar, hollywood, green energy? when are we going to be able to read the bills before they are voted on? it’s time for all to be thrown out and/or impeached.

American Duckie
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American Duckie

Well, I guess 3 minutes is better than passing it to see what’s in it. sigh… time to sanitize Washington.

Orangeone
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Orangeone

Well this is a new low for Biden, telling a woman to “spread her legs, she’s gonna be frisked”

http://www.buzzfeed.com/dorsey/joe-biden-spread-your-legs-youre-gonna-be-fris

American Duckie
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American Duckie
goldenprez
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goldenprez

Orangeone … And her husband stood by and laughed.

Maine gets what they deserve.

Throw them all out. The status quo must go!

Believe none of what you hear, and only half of what you see.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

Barracudas Maximus.

Orangeone
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Orangeone

With ya! Wish all the blue states were adjoined so we could cut them off from civilization!

American Duckie
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American Duckie

Rush- I love you, but when are you going to accept that the republican party, the GOP has no core values left? They’ve done nothing but bow to, cower to, give in to, compromised and rolled over.
The time is now. Lets roll.

The Constitutional Freedom Party is a party by and for the people. We uphold and will protect the Judeo/Christian Heritage of these United States. Our foundation is on God and the Founders and their intent as they framed the words of the Constitution. We will uphold and protect the rights which are given by God and solidified by the Laws of America, the Constitution. We are for smaller government as the Founders intended, by and for the people, who grant government their Just Powers.

poljunkie
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poljunkie

Im a Republican and I still have core values. By nature i’m a conservative as well….With a bit of rock and roll thrown in.

Its those who say they are leaders who have lost their way.

What you have identified for the Constitutional Freedom party is what the Grand Old Party is supposed to be. In my youth- or young adult time- the 80s, that is what I thought being a Republican meant…Everything you just wrote.

I love the idea of CFP’s formation, and I hope it can take off.

American Duckie
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American Duckie

Thanks Pol. You know I was talking about the “leaders” of the Party. I know so many republicans are sick of what the party has done.
As for CFP- I hope it takes off too. It’s growing, but we need help to spread the word.

poljunkie
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poljunkie

I know, what I was saying is that there are so many people like me that are *still* the same.

They are just getting lost in the election fiasco.

Solid Family minded
Values Driven, Morals guided…Conservative….
Constitution based
Pro second…Pro life….Pro family
States rights
Smaller Government
Capitalism, free market….. and freedom
Proud supporter of Israel
Still “like” the 10 Commandments!

…and all the rest

American Duckie
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American Duckie

That;s just it though polsis. So many of us are still the same, but the GOP won’t give us a platform anymore, nor will they support candidates who hold the same values. I was done with them last time- after seeing them practically hand Nevada back to reid on a platter, when Sharron Angle was winning, but she got no support from the GOP. Same with others. What they did to Allen West by redistricting him, was a disgrace, and they lied about giving money to Michele Bachmann, who barely squeeked out a win despite the GOP’s efforts to ignore her all together. They didn’t support Mia Love, nor Ted Cruz and others. They are more concerned about keeping the good ol boy power, and forcing their own picks on the rest of us. Too many of those who are registered Republicans are still the same…. but the party is… Read more »

poljunkie
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poljunkie

I’m with you. I hope that the CFP will rise and be strong enough to garner enough of the vote to win an election or at the very least have a say.

I really dont know what I will do if we lose the Presidential in 2016. Its taking every ounce of my being to get out of bed since 0 won re-election. Frankly, im still stunned.

American Duckie
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American Duckie

I’m with you there girlie. Actually I was there the first time he was coronated. I couldn’t believe that so many people fell for that hope and change, clean and articulate crap. So, I was very depressed and stunned the first few months after ’08. Now I’m just royally pi$$ed, and Pi$$ed enough to do something.. even if it’s not much, at least I’m doing something to try and rally folks together. ((((()))))s girlie.

poljunkie
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poljunkie

Yep. Oh I was upset in 04 too, but I am beyond disbelief this time. I just cant believe voters voted for him a second time. WTF?
Theres a guy here locally that was so angry he “ran” for President. He spent all the money to get on the ballot. I think he got 24 votes. Someone I know actually worked on his campaign.

American Duckie
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American Duckie

As silly as that sounds pol, that’s what we need to do, and if they are Constitutional conservatives, we need to support them. Maybe not for president (yet) but local and state rep seats- we need regular people again. No more career politicians! Back in the ‘good ol days’ when folks ran for Congress or the Senate who had regular jobs, back when they met in Washington only a few times a year, who stayed in their elective offices only 1 or 2 terms then went back to their “real” jobs.
Back then when regular people ran… not just the filthy rich lawyers so many of them are now.

1endtimes2020
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1endtimes2020

A perfect example of what was old is new again—hopefully.

American Duckie
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American Duckie

There’s always hope 1endtimes2020. smile

1endtimes2020
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1endtimes2020

George H. Bush gave us a clue when he spoke of “A new world order”. That’s what’s behind all of this nonsense. After WW2, America not only installed a democratic government in Japan, but gave them manufacturing jobs Americans used to have. The idea was, and is, to equalize the world, so democracy can triumph, and peace will be the result thoughout the world. Only one flaw—the bad guys don’t care to join. In the meantime, we gave away the store, and now we are a 3rd class country—we just don’t realize it yet…but both parties do. If they don’t keep interest rates low, spend money we borrow from China, and tax the people, the whole house of cards will come tumbling down. No political party wants to take the blame for that. All economists. worldwide, say the 16 trillion debt, and continuous borrowing and spending is unsustainable. This is… Read more »

poljunkie
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poljunkie

Totally a disgrace. At the time of the primary, I was endorsing-rooting for Perry over Bachman… But I like Michelle, and I’ve always liked the strong, stance she has taken toward Obama. I feel she has stood up and and has taken a strong position from day one to him……in the House fight. We supported her in her Congressional seat before and after the Presidential run…and I just dont understand why she didnt get any/or got very little support from the GOP. The GOP was probably worried about her husband becoming a distraction. (?) Honestly she didnt get a lot of backing from some of the conservatives tho either. There is a faction within the conservatives that didnt like her because they “thought” she was stealing Gov Palins thunder. I am not sure how that started- and in all liklihood between the two of them all is probably ok but… Read more »

1endtimes2020
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1endtimes2020

Call it ‘Constitutional’, ‘Sovereign’ or ‘America First’. It’s all to restore the Grand ‘Ol Party, at least until the Republican Party is back to being what it used to be.

1endtimes2020
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1endtimes2020

You’ve got the right idea, alright.

demographicallychallenged
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demographicallychallenged

Hate to say it but maybe OWS was right, just not the correct format to make their point?

aposematic
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aposematic

I would add fraudulent, heartless, compasionless, and total lacking of conscience to the above and the MSM/Press love him for all of it.

Sentinel
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Sentinel

Yep.

Forecast for the next four years: Cloudy, rainy… with a chance of slavery and communism.

This is unconscionable.

American Duckie
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American Duckie

I’m good at predicting, I sense a hurricane… with massive amounts of patriot thunder with a smattering of kick butt Constitutional loyalty.

Sentinel
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Sentinel

Hurricane Carolyn. wink

American Duckie
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American Duckie

lol. I like it. smile

deeme
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deeme

Could I be so bold to ask , “What is a medical excise tax”? Seriously will people believe this was only a tax on the very rich , while they are holding receipts in their pockets that say otherwise..and will the media get real..stop having people on your shows talking about the fairness doctrine and how Rush and Fox messed that all up..get real Fox shows the opposing view so much I can hardly watch it.Rush just tells the truth ..This is why they try so hard to demonize people like West and Cain and Palin or anyone who speaks the truth.they like things better when the good sheep follow, otherwise known as low information voters..Someday someone will tell the truth again in a way you will listen..I have watched the MSM , they never show an opposing view ever and they only tell the truth when their not covering… Read more »

americalsgt
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americalsgt

Working in the Medical Manufacturing world, our prices went up 2.3% as of today. We pass this increase on to our dealers who in turn pass it on to their customers who now pass it on to the consumer – the patients.

deeme
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deeme

So I go to the store and I buy something, having nothing to do with the cough I’ve had for a year and a half….and that’s when I pay for Susie down the streets birth control pills???

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

Don’t forget the 2.2% more the government is going to lift out of yours and everybody elses paycheck.

deeme
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deeme

If Only I could forget it Ken and the price of eggs and bread and milk and I hear you…They are sneaky little b’s and they got the low information voter thinking they are just taxing the very rich..no one can be that stupid…

Ray
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Ray

STOP BLAIMING OBAMA, START BLAIMING THE LIBERAL REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT. They did NOT have to vote yes on that bill. But they did. We know what Obama is, we THOUGHT the Republicans would hold him in check, THEY DIDN’T, just like they have not been doing since the contract with America ended.
Until Rush and Hannity et al come to their senses and start endorsing the TEA Party to break away from that diseased party, we will continue down the big government road.

crosshr
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crosshr

I can’t say it any better than you Ray ! Why keep on blaming the Left & Obama. Unless no one ever heard of them and what they have done last 4 years & beyond ! If love this Country and our Children and grand children, the Constitution is a great LIVING Manual to direct us, BUT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THE PHYSICAL BOOT WORK. We get to a point of too many know hows, too many know whats and too many holly angels and all together we all get trampled upon, walked upon, over used, miss used, abused and while we are down in the mud for being lied to by whom you voted for, we freaking ask for more(please freaking pull my hair) pardon the graphic French ) From the nature of how we discuss and analyze almost all issues pertaining to the overall health and well being… Read more »

Conniption Fitz
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Conniption Fitz

Rush says the big money people, the ultra wealthy, corporate raiders and manipulators like Buffet, Soros, Romney/Bain, et al, are still untouched.

tvlgds
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tvlgds

Don’t forget Hollyweird- they get to keep their Bush tax cuts.

cabensg
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cabensg

and…who in the he11 is pointing this out except commenters here. Where are the twitter accounts, where are the websites where are the interviews. We have all these communication channels and Republicans are giving a weekly address on their website that contains a bunch of political speak. Rush and Levin are talking to the choir…us. Does anyone get a weekly wrap up from their Representative or Senator telling us what they think or are doing. NO!!!! I guess they think getting the word out means talking to each other. Any candidate running for office from now on who doesn’t promise to communicate on every available channel with their constituents shouldn’t be elected. We need to demand they tell us what’s going on from their perspective. Sure you can read about their vote but who can understand the political lawyer speak of the bill they voted for or against. I want… Read more »

tvlgds
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tvlgds

My former Congress critter, Quico Canseco, DID send us weekly updates, and a whole group of us held his feet to the fire. Now we have the evil twin of our idiot Nobamabot mayor as our “rep” because TX keeps redistricting to try to turn the whole state blue.

Bunjy
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Bunjy

They contributed to Obama’s campaign. Is this a surprise? I certainly figured they wouldn’t get hit. It’s the income earners that will suffer, not the people who are so wealthy they earn no income to tax.

Conniption Fitz
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Conniption Fitz

Obama = Chutzpah. Brazen. Audacious. Impudent. Proud. Forward. Undaunted. Shameless. Impertinent. Arrogant. Hubristic.

Rocco11
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Rocco11

Communist

American Duckie
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American Duckie

evil, vile, obnoxious, prideful, hypoctritical, marxist and all around crapweasle.

goldenprez
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goldenprez

AmborninCan … You could have just said Marxist.

That actually encompasses all the rest.

Throw them all out! The status quo must go!

Believe none of what you hear, and only half of what you see.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

Barracudas Maximus.

aposematic
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aposematic

I would add fraudulent, heartless, compasionless, and total lacking of conscience to the above and the MSM/Press love him for all of it.

Laurel
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Laurel

I agree Rush…and neither does most of the media. Rush gets it. Levin gets it. West gets it. Palin has always got it. The folks get it…but the bulk of the Republican Party and media do not get it. They keep applying the same old rules and playbook because they are so kowtowed by PC’ism they don’t want to call the left and treat the left, including Obama, like the far left commie radicals that they are.

Until they do nothing will change. We need a Sherman in the Republican Party to slash and burn his way through. Actually we need a few.

Laurel
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Laurel

P.S. Every prediction Rush has made about cliff deal has come true.

Every. Single. One.

n8sebaka
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n8sebaka

i concur. i wish we had a mouthpiece like pelosi. i wish i didn’t have to say that, but . . .

Laurel
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Laurel

They don’t have to lie like Pelosi but they need to be fearless and call BS every single time they open their mouths. Conservatives should have the media scrambling to catch up daily! The barrage needs to be constant and never ending. Exact a pound of flesh and ridicule them at every turn for their lies and emotionalism along with their short sided thinking. Doing it on the internet is not enough. The radio is not enough. Print media is not enough. they need to be out their every second of every day.

Breitbart and Alfonzo Rachel have the beat of this. PJ Media as well but they also could do more.

poljunkie
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poljunkie

I agree.

As much as I personally loathe Pelosi, she has been tremendously successful, and effective for her party.

I don’t know why people believe her, but they do.

cabensg
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cabensg

They believe her because the media pretends she’s credible and never fails to praise her efforts.

poljunkie
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poljunkie

Its incredible to me because when I look at her I see an insincere manipulative partisian —wonk wanna be.

poljunkie
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poljunkie

Edit to add- She doesnt do this to “help” people in the SF community. Its all about power for her.

Did you hear her intro earlier from Boehners re-election? Shes been married for almost 50 years…….and wishes to thank the familes of…blah blah blah…(her children)….I mean who does that?

Thats not a bad thing to be wealthy…and for them, thats a good thing….- with wealth comes power…… over 100 million gets you a lot of authority.

Her husband a San Francisco business guy, owns a venture capital investment firm… In addition, he is the owner of the Sacramento Mountain Lions, and other sports teams.

Together they also owns two Vineyards. One in St. Helena, California. and the other in Napa Valley proper. She sells her grapes to other California winemakers instead of producing her own wine.

n8sebaka
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n8sebaka

The only way to force Dear Leader to make cuts is to shut down the gubment. Hope the GOP packs the gear for the fight.

Brian Jones
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Brian Jones

EXACTLY!!! They keep making deals to keep the Government operating, in the hopes that they can force the Dems to cut spending. The only TRUE way to FORCE them to cut spending is to let the Government shut-down against the wall of the Spending Limit. Once that is reached, they MUST cut back…no other option. But we keep signing deals, thinking that by averting a national spending crisis (which is necessary) for a few more months, we will earn enough political capital to encourage the Liberals to compromise with us to cut spending…but it NEVER happens!!! Let’s just stop with the charade now, shut down the damn Government, and watch the spending stop. EVENTUALLY, people will ONCE AGAIN learn to support themselves, and they won’t miss the Government funding anymore. THEN, we can finally get serious about cutting spending, because people will no longer be dependent on the spending that… Read more »

aposematic
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aposematic

It would force them to prioritise spending. We now spend more than two to three times what we were spending just six years ago. Why that would be so hard to go back to I just don’t get it. However, with the Gov. we have the damning would increase dramatically against we evil Conservatives as the cuts would be used to hurt those in need the most for political purposes. That’s what scares the the R’s the most. But when thinking about it, Doesn’t Boehner control the purse strings…oh, nevermind!

Brian Jones
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Brian Jones

You’re right! the House does control the purse strings, but the President decides how to spend that money (unless specifically appropriated for a specific purpose by Congress beforehand), which is why the President is in charge of regulations (that’s how he attaches strings to the money that goes to the Government agencies). The Executive Branch simply says “Give us this much money” to take care of the purposes that Congress approved of. Congress simply says: “We want this to happen”, and the Executive Branch implements the plan to make Congress’ vision happen, using the money appropriated by Congress. Then the Executive Branch spends that money to those purposes. But if the Government runs out of money, the President will pick and choose who gets money and who doesn’t (just like now), but anyone that truly needs help but are unlikely to vote for him or other Dems will get screwed.… Read more »

PVG
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PVG

You’re dreamin’………..

goldenprez
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goldenprez

PVG … I couldn’t have put it better, or more succinctly, myself! Until people begin to understand that the Republican Party is just as much part of the problem, and actively seek to replace it and all therein with a Party of the People, a Freedom Party, nothing will change. It will only get worse. Those, like Mr. Erickson at RotState, who think they can affect change to the GOP are in dire need of mental professional help. The very idea that Boehner would, or could, be replaced as Speaker was bordering on delusion. Unfortunately, most of the “right” thinking people are grounded in pipe dreams, and are not willing to face reality. They are also incredibly gullible. These GOP pols know that all they have to do is give lip service to conservative principles to get the grassroots conservative vote. No one ever bothers to examine their records, and… Read more »

warpmine
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warpmine

Like that will happen! I’ve got that bridge…………. still for sale.

57thunderbird
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57thunderbird

Time for a third party is now.The GOP can go the way of the Whigs.

CO2isGood
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CO2isGood

I have to agree. The Republican Party is really out of touch. Perhaps a Constitutional Party. One that reduces the size and scope.

The problem is convincing a sizeable number of the low information voters the government school systems are churning out, that they are ruining the country, and stealing their childrens legacies.

American Duckie
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American Duckie

That’s where educating the low information voters comes in… give them the true information instead of alphabets. http://constfreparty.blogspot.com/

the pict formerly known as jonathan b
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the pict formerly known as jonathan b

ABC, i love you Sis(especially when you end a post with a link to a RUSH song) but instead of trying to get folks into the Constitutional freedom party why don’t we try to get everyone into the biggest third party there is(i know- libertarians!, yuck!!) but people have been holding their noses for so long voting for repubs, why not do it for them since they have the best chance of kicking the repugs down the road to obscurity and bring in some blue dog dems also.

American Duckie
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American Duckie

I can see your point (love your name!) but so many people liken the Libertarian party with Ron Paul, many while loving the smaller government and Constitutional respect, there are some things many Conservatives just don’t agree with there. The CFP is growing, and will so more soon because people are sick and tired and want something they agree with and see themselves aligning with more. Many of us are still tea partiers as well. It may be that these groups all work together with other off shoots to find regular Constutional loving people to run for offices in their states or in the federal government. This party, while hoping to find more people to run in the next few elections, is also about taking back the culture, media and education- to teach people about what the Founders intentions were when they formed our government and the Constitution. I can’t… Read more »

warpmine
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warpmine

You mean that’s your facebook thing?

American Duckie
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American Duckie

We have a blog and a facebook page right now, working on a website. We also have videos up, and more will be coming as I can get them done. The link ^^ there is my own blog, when I explained why I started the CFP. And the link above that is the CFP Blog- with our Platform and Declaration.

warpmine
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warpmine

I will apologize in advance for any stark comments concerning civil war is concerned on the facebook page as I’m quite ill about the current state the country is in. My daughter who sits on my lap in my avatar, she’s 3-1/2, is my concern as my life will be over shortly, a decade more perhaps.

American Duckie
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American Duckie

I didn’t even know you were on the facebook page!!! Why haven’t you friended me?! No apologies necessary though warpmine- unless you unleashed a bunch of stuff like on here that would get you moderated (we have much the same comment rules as scoop!) But I can completely understand. My son is 12 now, and I have him and our other home school co op kids in mind whenever I do something on CFP. Them and our troops and vets. We have GOT to win this fight for those who are and have fought to give us what we’ve let slip away. For our kids. ((()))s

warpmine
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warpmine

I don’t even befriend people that I’ve know for years because I never talk to them anymore. Most will never understand my political views and care more about sports and over paid kids er players than their country. I have a 15 year old son who’s bright scholastically speaking but I cannot seem to reach him in terms of rational thought(common sense). Keep up the good work.

American Duckie
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American Duckie

Mine’s not exactly the best critical thinker either, but we can still pray and hope for them to learn common sense. It took me a long time lol. smile
As for not friending, I have a few old friends who still are there, but many “unfriended” me a long time ago for my politics and for my belief in Jesus. Oh well. Their loss right?! Yes, you know I’m right lol!

the pict formerly known as jonathan b
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the pict formerly known as jonathan b

i understand and can concur about their stands, i’m just concerned about the fracturing of the conservative movement. do you have any thoughts or plans on linking to other parties/groups?

American Duckie
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American Duckie

I have no plans on linking up right now. I understand about the fear of fracturing too, but people have always had that fear and it’s kept so many from voting their consciences and instead, plugging their noses for fear of dividing the vote. Frankly, the way things went in this past election right now, many of us don’t fear that anymore. There are more important things we’re trying to focus on. Some day down the road maybe more folks will join us, or other groups might ask for participation in or from us. For now, we’re just getting started and have a lot of work to do and we plan on doing it.

K-Bob
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K-Bob

No way in aitch-ee-double-hockey-sticks we could take over the Libertarian Party. Ain’t gonna happen.

We have to bypass the party thing altogether in order to stand a chance.

Reagan went around the press, directly to The People.

This time, The People need to go around the system to directly elect a real President.

ApplePie101
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ApplePie101

My very thoughts.

the pict formerly known as jonathan b
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the pict formerly known as jonathan b

i apologize for not stating my case better, i never thought that we could. i agree the parties are for the parties, not freedom loving change

K-Bob
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K-Bob

Most of us, on discovering the LP, think we’ve found a real kindred spirit. Then we discover the massive rift between the Rothbard wing and the Randians. (And the just plain fiscal libertarians). Then we look on in horror as it turns out that about 30% of them are just stoners looking to make pot legal.

Such a disappointment.

And the arguments! More anger than you can put in a bowling alley.

That’s why I say just vote West. Simple goal. No party. Even a stoner could see the elegance of the thing.

Hmmm. My glass is empty.

americalsgt
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americalsgt

It can be done. The Republican Party came into existence in 1854. Their first president, Abraham Lincoln, was elected in 1860, and the Republicans held the presidency the majority of the time until the election of 1912. So………… is it that much of a stretch to imagine another party forming now and then gain power by the mid terms of 2018? My problem is that with each passing day, I see less of a chance that A) Obama will relinquish power, and B) what will be left of this once great country at that point to make it worth saving?

Kev
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Kev

Boehner cares about SOTU, the rest only care about committee assignments. Nobody gives a damn about the people, the country or the party. Who voted against Boehner — those that have already lost their committee assignments. GOP needs to be replaced en masse.

Richard
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Richard

I’m dying to hear Mark Levin now.

Sentinel
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Sentinel

He’s gonna blow his top… and rightfully so.

American Duckie
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American Duckie

I just hope he doesn’t blow an artery. I love his rants, but it worries me when he gets going too much.

ChesterWalton
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ChesterWalton

My guess is that he reluctantly throws his support behind Boehner now that he said he won’t do anymore backroom deals with the Dems.

badnewzbearz
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badnewzbearz

Nope. I’m listening to Mark right now. He’s on fire.

MiketheMarine
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MiketheMarine

I hate our government. We need to demand a national vote of no confidence and throw every last one of these @$$hats out. All of them.

denbren52
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denbren52

If only we could!

Biggbear52
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Biggbear52

I find it difficult to believe you just made that Statement: Look at our Constitution and then please re-think your stance! This time read all of it.

Harry Jamerson
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Harry Jamerson

What Constitution? The one that Congress, the Supreme Court and Obama entirely ignores.

TIMERUNNER
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TIMERUNNER

Bigger Bears has a great point, but so do you harry jamerson, so it seems we Americans have quite a problem haven’t we? The Constitution gives us a road to stay free, so tomorrows another day, we must stay brave and strong ready to answer the call by the Paul Revere’s among us. They may call sooner than later. You’ll know the call if it comes.

Biggbear52
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Biggbear52

The fact that all of the White House, Congress and the Senate ignore the U.S Constitution does not mean it does not exsist. Unless of course you personally have allowed yourself into being brained washed into believing it does not, Just as the communists that be are attempting to do.

Jazzee
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Jazzee

love the Constitution but the others don’t and we are headed for communism forget socialism the dicator already occupies the white house

Jazzee
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Jazzee

amen

TIMERUNNER
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TIMERUNNER

bigger bear, Your Right On! Thanks for standing!

Biggbear52
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Biggbear52

Thank you. You stand up too. O.K

poljunkie
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poljunkie

Term Limits would go a long way toward fixing this problem.

jleinf
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jleinf

That and a new tax code where everyone contributes.

capelady
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capelady

As of May 2012, RUSSIA has a 13% flat tax for all citizens, and immigrants pay more.

How ironic that they would be more fair than the USA!!

American Duckie
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American Duckie

I’m pestering I know, but CFP is for term limits wink

poljunkie
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poljunkie

Bravo!!!!

In this day and age…I cant believe Term Limits arent being pushed….

It just seems like the right thing to do. I mean this is on the Tax Payers dime.

poljunkie
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poljunkie

#1 Youre not pestering….
#1 When I looked at the Web page you originally sent me the link to while back (not FB), there was no way to make comments
#3 Where do you stand- now. Whats going on?

American Duckie
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American Duckie

We’ve only got 2 documents up right now- purposely, so people can look at them both carefully. Our Declaration and our Platform can be found here: http://constfreparty.blogspot.com/ I think you may have seen one of the you tube videos, but I can’t remember which one if you have, so here they are so far- they take a while for me to produce, and I’m working on the next one now- but it’s huge and a lot, so it’s taking me longer than I intended- but here’s a start: The Constitutional Freedom Party http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQWrMt3T6Ac&feature=youtu.be The Role of Church in Government http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l4dy1O94Sg&feature=youtu.be Education the Constitutional way: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc1LkDs4HJM&feature=youtu.be The Second Amendment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMk7cpn6nWA&feature=youtu.be From Whig to Shining Freedom: The Rise of a New Party: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UVcUyuT0BM&feature=share The UN. UN Constitutional http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E54W5OcjUkE&feature=plcp The Truth about Taxes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RawGHCgdpFM&feature=youtu.be We are working, or I should say a couple of others are working on getting our website up. It’s… Read more »

poljunkie
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poljunkie

Impressive stuff.

Nice job! Im proud of you.

Woo hoo. You’ve really rolled up your sleeves and gotten to work. Some of these would be great for my sons humanties classes. If only he could use them. This semester he is teaching Gov econ as well.

American Duckie
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American Duckie

Thank you Pol! I’m going to show them to my homeschool co op kids when we resume co op next month. They are a big part of why I’m doing this.
Thank you girlie. I imagine you like the music on the 2nd Amendment one lol. smile

poljunkie
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poljunkie

YGTR.

American Duckie
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American Duckie

lol grin

poljunkie
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poljunkie

DONT ever shut up around me. I value everything you have to say to me.

American Duckie
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American Duckie

You’re sweet. Thanks girlie. I value everything you say too- especially fun stuff! grin

capelady
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capelady

Newt tried to get term limits in his Contract With America… and it was the GOP in the House that blocked him – his own party!!!

poljunkie
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poljunkie

Of course—Its a “life time” job for most of these people. Not all. The perks are pretty darn good too.

Mark
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Mark

If only we could elect people who would follow the Constitution we wouldn’t need term limits. They were considered and rejected at the founding. It was decided that the constitutional role of the government was so small that term limits were unnecessary. So we need people that will follow it and then we wouldn’t have a problem!

warpmine
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warpmine

Only way is to send an armed mob to do this otherwise, we’re just pissing into the wind. They will not give up their power until they’re either shot dead or running in fear of it.

Jimbo
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Jimbo

Ditto x 16 trillion.

Jay
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Jay

Good luck with that. I agree but you know what I mean.

Jazzee
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Jazzee

right behind you Marine

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