Russia ready to defend Iran and Syria

Russia believes that Syria and Iran are in its national interest and is apparently ready to use military force to defend them:



Following are excerpts from an interview with Colonel-General [ret.] Leonid Ivashov, former member of the Russian Joint Chiefs of Staff, which aired on Russia Today TV on February 1, 2012:

Interviewer: Dr. Leonid, do you think that these preparations and very large maneuvers, which will soon be conducted by Russia, are meant as preparation for war, or rather, a military strike against Iran?

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Leonid Ivashov: These maneuvers and training will demonstrate Russia’s readiness to use military power to defend its national interests and to bolster its political position. The maneuvers will show that Russia does not want any military operations to be waged against Iran or Syria. I assume that the people in the West and in Israel who design the schemes for a large geopolitical operation in the greater Middle East region draw a direct connection between the situation in Syria and in Iran. Indeed, these two countries are allies, and both are considered guaranteed partners of Russia. The only question, therefore, is who they will try to destroy first as a stable country: Syria or Iran.

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A strike against Syria or Iran is an indirect strike against Russia and its interests. Russia would lose important positions and allies in the Arab world. Therefore, by defending Syria, Russia is defending its own interests.

In addition, Russia is thus defending the entire world from Fascism. Everybody should acknowledge that Fascism is making strides on our planet. What they did in Libya is nearly identical to what Hitler and his armies did against Poland and then Russia. Today, therefore, Russia is defending the entire world from Fascism.

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Wiping IRAN off the map has been part of THE PLAN since early 20th Century! … NEW YORK – USA – In a remarkable admission by former Nixon era Secretary of State, Henry Kissinger, reveals what is happening at the moment in the world and particularly the Middle East. Speaking from his luxurious Manhattan apartment, the elder statesman, who will be 89 in May, is all too forward with his analysis of the current situation in the world forum of Geo-politics and economics. “The United States is bating China and Russia, and the final nail in the coffin will be Iran, which is, of course, the main target of Israel. We have allowed China to increase their military strength and Russia to recover from Sovietization, to give them a false sense of bravado, this will create an all together faster demise for them. We’re like the sharp shooter daring the… Read more »

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Zionist neoconservatives in Washington were planning regime change in seven Muslim countries including Iran, Iraq, Syria, Sudan, Somalia, Lebanon, and Libya years before 9/11. Mossad conducted BOTH USS Cole and 9/11. The high-fiving Israelis apprehended in the morning of 9/11 had blamed the Palestinians to the FBI even before they could have been sure it was a deliberate act rather than an accident. Bin Laden was blamed because the range of aggression could be extended to Afghanistan, and by placing and killing him in Pakistan last year, to Pakistan. This was a Zionist post-Soviet power play. Some people consider this, the truth, to be ‘antisemitic’ but it’s not. Zionists are not really Jews anyway — looking at the long list of Israeli massacres, it’s clear that Zionists don’t care for the Ten Commandments. Lenni Brenner has extensively studied Zionist collaboration with the Nazis. Indeed, they are more right than Fascists,… Read more »

911Infidel
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LOL. Really? You do comedy shows too?

911Infidel
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Bolster its political position? What exactly does that mean. Russia does not any longer have the capacity to project military power past its own back yard. Many of us long ago figured out that the Ruskies have an inherent weakness in the military that could be exploited by a smarter opponent. The USSR is dead. The new Russia is all bluster. Against an opponent with 20 years of combat experience the Russians would get their little fannies slapped. They see the weakness of the US led by the clowns Rodham and Obama. They intend to exploit that weekness to gain more power in the world. Politically speaking its a good move. Militarily, they are no match for either the Israelis or the US. An alliance between the Mahdi-ists in Iran and their puppets in Syria is only natural, since all have the same goals in mind: The diminishment of US… Read more »

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We just kick the rotten door down & the whole edifice will crumble!
A Hitler 1941

911Infidel
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And if he didn’t have such a low opinion of Slavs and fought a war of liberation against Stalin, he would have succeeded. The Russian populace treated the Germans as heroes at first, until the Germans started their genocidal campaign against the Slavs.

I got a better quote that is a lesson that the Germans learned the hard way:

“If you ever forget the LORD your God and follow other gods and worship and bow down to them, I testify against you today that you will surely be destroyed. Like the nations the LORD destroyed before you, so you will be destroyed for not obeying the LORD your God.” – Deuteronomy 8: 19-20

Anonymous
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“Get to know the laws of nature and live by them”.

-Adolf Hitler

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DancingIsraelis
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This video production is from MEMRI which is a mossad/Israeli propaganda organisation that is aimed at the US and US elected officials. The excerpt is from Arabic RT tv with full Arabic translation at the bottom.

MEMRI came along and covered the Arabic translation subtitles with an English one. MEMRI then spoke over the English and Russian speech with an Arabic voice over by them.

I saw the original broadcast and this MEMRI processed one is a distortion.

Anonymous
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MEMRI & Al Jazeera are run from the same basement office in the pentagon

Anonymous
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Checkmate!

Anonymous
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When you read postings on news articles it is really depressing. You come to understand why world leaders fail so much, they come from the mass of humanity who could not make peace even if they had all the ingredients.

Anonymous
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The ‘born agains’ so called Christians are blood thirsty for war/s. They do not have love nor peace in their hearts, just ‘hate an enemy’ for no good reason. Most if not all in the military are mercenaries from the deep south, and do not practice the teachings of Jesus.

Josh
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You are painting with a really broad stroke. As you release that first stone, please enlighten us with where you are coming from. You are obviously not of the cloth as you have judged and made regional slurs in your statement already. I know I should know better than to respond to this posting, but someone has to defend the honor of our men and women in uniform who, by the way, give you the opportunity to say what you just said and still live.

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what honor are you talking about? there is no honor fighting for corporations such as halliburton, amoco, shell and of course for israel (not for the us), for the 1% and the rothschilds(lucifer) which these wars are all about. these are not honorable men. you romanticize of stupidity and foolishness. all those countries you have invaded cannot nor ever will be a real threat to the us. do they not want war since most of these people are very busy eking out a living to care for their family. i rate your comment as one of the stupidest comment i have read so far.

Josh
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You call us warmongers and fools. You “rate” my comment according to your incredible wisdom that we should all bow to. Show me evidence, Ferdinand, that my comments make no sense. Disprove me. For my comment, I can assure you and the whole world that if the United States military did not enter WWII, the Nazis would rule Europe. If the United States did not come to the aid of South Korea, the North Koreans would be oppressing them as well. If you are talking about Libya, Syria, Egypt, and all of these ME countries that we just helped overthrow, then you are in good company. That was Obama and his radical communist, Muslim agenda that everyone here denounces. However, if you are against Israel, then you are against me and, more importantly, against God. You may want to rethink your position if that is the case. This is why… Read more »

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It just never occurs to the warmongers that millions , billions of people dont want any part of their WARGOD who slaughters children and babies since they took over ca 6000 years ago .

while we cant wait for you to wake up many of us are not living in FEAR and TREMBLING of this god of yours created by the WAR PROFITEERS to justify land grabs and slaughter of whole nations

we are moving forward into this 21St Century seeking and finding solutions
to the worlds problems and how to implement solutions with fair treatment for all peoples

your “god’ has no clothes OR scruples.

feel free to join us at any time

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K-Bob
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Reads like a bizarre marketing ploy for a recently discovered Black Sabbath album.

So what tribe has a WARGOD? Is that something from Worlds Of Warcraft?

Anonymous
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have no concept of board games
never saw one

you know very well the abrahamic religions are based on perpetual WAR

better visit your pastor and get reprogrammed so you can debate instead of quip.

Josh
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Josh

“debate”??!?!?!?

Your definition of debate is to call people stupid and mock God. You probably think it is something you put on dehook.

Josh
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Please feel free to fling your insults at me and make your silly utopian comments (fair treatment for all peoples is a childish fantasy). However, I would warn you about your comments on God. Now, more than any time in history, prophecy is playing out before our eyes. We may see, in our lifetime, the return of our Lord and Savior. When that happens, EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW and EVERY TONGUE CONFESS.

You may not believe in tornadoes either, but when it comes and destroys your house, standing out front screaming “I don’t believe in you!” really won’t help…

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Josh you have the victim disease no one is “flinging insults” at you “your silly utopian comments (fair treatment for all peoples is a childish fantasy). ” lol no poor fearful one thats how the SOURCE allowed the humans who contain SOUL to live here it is we each and collectively who have disturbed that grand Divine gift by the sort of thinking you show here many peoples living in their own lands and sitting in councils where when any disputes arise in the systems of the ADVANCED BEINGS who inhabit planets not quarantined because of the peoples addiction to barbarity and views based on FEAR and HATE are discussed and solutions that benefit all in a fair manner are reached . When people have a deeply conditioned FEAR and need to HATE they lose connection to this Ancient knowledge and are unable to stop the incessant WARS and slaughters.… Read more »

David
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This should give AIPAC pause to consider whether or not they really want to be so stupid as to pull out the stops and attack either country. I have no good feelings about Iran or Syria, but it is always best to let sleeping dogs lie. The US under bush decided to go it alone against Iraq, probably because boy bush would never pick a fight he couldnt win – while others did the fighting of course. If any of the world of Islam decides to attack the west, then and only then, defense and removal of the threat is justified.

Anonymous
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They who live by the sword.
Will die by the sword.

Anonymous
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whillikers, I thought jesus was going to save them all.

silly me believing the contradictory tales from “scripture”

Anonymous
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IF you believe this why do you deny IRAN weapons of defense yet encourage isrealUSA to have all they can bleed form the taxpayers on the way to destroying American by financial collapse? in your view israelUSA DPNK, Pakistan, China, britain, France, and on and on, can live by the swords/ bombs but not IRAN? why can your choices have swords/bombs and not others do you sit at a conference table with jesus to choose lives for others?? before religions wars were so few many peoples had no WORDS for WAR, murder, rape, crime. religions assume authority that belongs to SOURCE and define who can be a first world nation and which must be dissolved by famine. plague, wars. see what your philosophy is creating for 6000 years already! every nation and tribe in its own and and self rulership Study THAT philosophy as it predates the arrival of the… Read more »

Eddie Argento
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Go Russia. Everyone knows Israel needs its ass kicked in. It’s way overdue, and Putin is just the Man to do it.

Go Russia, Go Vlad! Run rings around these bankster handpuppets

The UK/Israel/US bankster crime syndicate: the real axis of evil

Anonymous
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Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil.

Anonymous
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yep

thats all religious blather
calling good and evil according to a godmyth invented to make
WARPROFITTING acceptable

now THATS evil being called good big time.

Anonymous
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Russia has been called the savior of humanity in the times of travail
as all other nations sink and the PEOPLE of Russia who have lived thru so very much step up with the GRACE that comes from struggle to LEAD the world away from destruction and back to sanity
Cayce, Besant, Blavatsky,…

Josh
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Josh

…Stalin, Lenin…

Anonymous
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so sad for you that you have no inkling of what is referred to by that post

everyone doesnt evolve at the same pace.

Amy
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I have no desire to evolve to your one world united philosophy. It’s based in error. You won’t find many here that are friendly to your ‘evolved’ theosophical views. Being assimilated into a global, one world government isn’t in our nature.

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amy this is the EITHER/OR thinking the puppet masters have
trained our minds as response to EVERYTHING

It is regressive and leads one abuut by the old nose ring in circles
holding the STATUS QUO in place

I DO NOT espouse a ONE WORLD GOVT
nor do those I mentioned

your lack of being informed does not invalidate what I wrote

Just so you can know my personal philosophy
read up on Blavatsky and Bailey

these great philosophers were NOT any tiny bit one world govt

your FEARS cause you to feel threatened by any view not
in the deep and rigid groove of belief you have been programmed into

jumping to false conclusions is a disease of the uninformed
who wish to avoid thinking for themselves

just ask jesus.

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Anonymous
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Jesus is not starting any wars.
God is Love.

Anonymous
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Jesus are not starting any wars

Anonymous
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Wow.

“Everybody should acknowledge that Fascism is making strides on our planet. What they did in Libya is nearly identical to what Hitler and his armies did against Poland and then Russia. Today, therefore, Russia is defending the entire world from Fascism.”

Sounds like an American leftie, doesn’t it? Global conspiracy? No, it couldn’t be. I guess I’m just a paranoid right-wing extremist.

I won’t even bother to point out the many absurd lies in just that one paragraph. Only a brainwashed or grossly ignorant population would believe that. Uhhh …. wait … uh-oh ….

Anonymous
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Apparently someone must have left the door open on TS because a few lefties have crept in as well.

Anonymous
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lefties creep ANYWHERE ?

all I have ever seen, and thats many thousands having lived in NYC for
20 yrs, stormed the doors and pushed everyone off the chairs and sat right up front so as to be heard when they scream their views and drown out everyone else

yup, there are many in here now posting one liner insults and unable to debate

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I am sympathetic to Russia’s position. But I cannot see how Russia would be anymore successful defending Syria -with whom it does not share a common border- than Britain and France were, when trying to defend Poland in 1939 (from Russia as well as from Germany). Russia can’t get military forces into Syria without travelling over or through terrain and waters contolled by NATO.

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Russia and China are going to bury the US if they get the opportunity. We have the land, we have the resources, and all they need to do is eliminate or incarcerate the citizens.

The people on the Mayflower took America from the Natives and Mexicans. Why can’t Russia and China take America from the “Americans”? It’s not like it has never been done before.
These countries think that that American citizens are too divided racially and economically to ever be able to stand against them.
They are correct. For now.
Stay in denial people. The truth is about to hurt. For decades.

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I was in agreement up until the ‘fascism’ card was played. Hitler invaded Poland to protect the German minority from atrocities and to rectify WWI armistice outrages. They attacked Russia in a preemptive strike as Communist Russia was preparing to crush all of Western Europe. Fascism was organized central government, similar to Communism but with National interests, not Global, and certainly not the chaos of America exporting so-called Democracy. Democracy was abandoned by the Greeks 3000 years ago as untenable. The Roman Republic replaced Democracy, but alas, that too failed due to the corruptible nature of Man.
What The New World Order is doing is worse than anything ever attempted. It is Nation Wrecking on a Global scale in order to provide security for Zionist Israel by turning all Nations into a Libya type of outcome — in the name of ‘Democracy’, a failed form of government.

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AH had to attack Russia even tho there was the Ribbentrop Pact BECAUSE while Onkle Joe was signing it he was amassing a huge presence along his western border looking down Germanys throat with plans to roll his communist tyranny right into the heart of Europe

Numbers of tanks impossible to imagine in those days while Germany Cavalry was still horse mounted and they had less than 200tanks as germany had NO plans to go to war

Intelligence told AH about the impending betrayal of Onkle Joe and his western arms suppliers so he had NO choice but to strike first in a battle he could not win

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Russia has been getting nervous due to NATO actions in Eastern Europe, Central Asia, and the Middle East. First, they are quite concerned about the missile defense shield that is being built in various Eastern European and Central Asian counties, including former Warsaw Pact nations. Second, Syria and Iran have both been Russian client states for some time, with significant trade and diplomatic relationships. Russia is building a large port facility in Syria as we speak. They are not going to allow the Anglo-American alliance to muck it up. The use of anti-Fascist rhetoric is interesting. It is right from the cold war, and has some truth to it. America and it’s allies have become the big bully on the block, with American intervention in Iraq, Afghanistan, and in an indirect way, Lybia, for example, looking very much like a war to extend American corporate interests (e.g., oil). Both Russia… Read more »

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Good stuff. israelUSA are always yammering about poor little israel surrounded by enemies the NATO are on “The Lobby” have damn near surrounded Russia who does NOT want to got to war Her memories are too raw and prosperity will take more time I see her in similar position as NSDAP in 1939 also with a huge disenfranchised youth same conditions are rapidly emerging in israelUSA millions of disenfranchised energetic male youth who see they have NO future without a Ron Paul presidency so are ready to take it to the streets with what weapons they can attain we are in a dangerous time this GLOBAL R3volution is having labor contractions and momentarily will open the cervix to a NEW ORDER will it be a PEOPLES Order or just another AIPAC order with even stricter censoring and mini crimes to pick up people and send off to camps where our… Read more »

Anonymous
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I can always smell a Ron Paul supporter from a mile away, they hate America, they hate Israel, and love conspiracies.

Lorili
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Morons like you hate America, why else do you want it destroyed in endless wars for some stupid war-mongering foreign country? America comes first, not your precious Israel. If’s it’s so f’ing wonderful why don’t you move there?

Anonymous
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oh another cookie from the same old same old cutter !

no debate
just nasty cracks with no value to the thread

but claim to smell thru a monitor
sure like all the other lies they tell

Joe.Bassett
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Nothing short of scores of politicians dead will change things. Those bastards make all the decisions. Your politicians could stop this nonsense. The politicians are supposed to do what the people want. They represent us, but when do they do what the people want? Do we want chemcials like fluoride in our water or sprayed with chemtrails or junk in our food or soda machines everywhere or war or our world polluted with nuclear waste? It’s time to have common citizens make the laws and get the lawyers out of it.

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Right Joe but IMV the current pols are all fully drugged/mind programmed to salute any circumscision, which barbaric practice is ONLY to create life long FEAR in males so they ALWAYS bow to the OLD MEN. It takes a dedicated Spiritual pursuit for those scarred males to THINK PAST the view of naked old men having any power not FEAR based. With this viewpoint I see that ALL pols are worthless and must be removed All leadership needs to be instituted with in small local communities by those who know the ones they elect as having grown up with them and know their families and strengths in crises. Every community sends a few leaders up to the state level every TWO years The federal level is two leaders who confer and oversee any needs toe locals cannot meet with in their own sufficiencies as in some disaster The two fed… Read more »

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There is now one axis of evil in the world. NATO/USA/Israel. They are the most evil militarised fascist force the world has ever witnessed. Committing genocide, mass murder, every crime against humanity, plundering and looting at will. Thank which ever God you like, but thank him for Russia and for Vladimir Putin. They know Mr Putin is the major obstacle in their way. Thus the funding of corrupt NGOs within Russia to pay for and mobilise demonstrations against him. I am afraid the world has seen all this before. Serbia, Ukraine, Georgia etc, so we realise exactly what is going on. How many of the anti Putin demonstrators are paid, how many are useful idiots – who knows. All I can say is if they want corruption and fascism, brutality and sleaze try the USA, Britain or France. You would soon see that Mr Putin for all his faults is… Read more »

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Good one.
This is exactly why the Russian media is screaming Putin has lost the peoples confidence

smear him & call him anti semite

but his people by a huge margin still have full faith in him and his
labors to clean out the OLIGARCHS who are all from the tribe of ODESSA

if you dont know THAT history, you can look it up

IF it hasnt been scrubbed already as so much REAL history has been

Anonymous
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Wow are you serious? Your values are all messed up.

Josh
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I haven’t determined their position, but they are here now. Pray for our forums…

Amy
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For some reason the name ‘Legion’ keeps popping into my mind.

Amy
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They are one world government, open borders and new world order all rolled up in one. I stand by my original thought. They are called Legion ~

Josh
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I am beginning to see what you are saying…

Gene Carr
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Russia is best suited to handle things in Syria and Iran. The US need to get out while we still have a country but it is probably to late

Anonymous
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across the earth most people are clearly the israelUSA is the worlds bully
perhaps some eye opening here will show how deeply our once great nation
has sunk into the policies of invade, slaughter, turn over any remains to the CONTRACTORS to rebuild as their owners choose without regard to any
desires of the remnant of the populace.

the chickens are fast arriving home to roost and defecate.

If it were not for Russia keeping calm in the eastern regions we would
all have been a long since dead and only zionist rule would be seen anywhere
IF not for Russia and China now zion would stomp right thur the heart of the ME

Its past time israelUSA was stood up to and told enough
ENOUGH bullying !

Josh
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Josh

When did Israel make threats that they would wipe anybody off the face of the earth? When did the USA make those threats? Open your eyes. We are not the aggressors.

Anonymous
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grow up you are immature and a danger to your family because your stupidity is overwhelming.

Josh
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…and this would be why Ken had to post about personal attack issues…
“you are immature and a danger to your family because your stupidity is overwhelming”

I would posit that you are either Muslim, Leftist, Anti-Semitic, OWS, … am I getting close?

Gordon James
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Israel & USA do not need to make threats. They just go ahead and do it without warning. Invade, occupy and kill. The only country to use a nuclear bomb on civilians is the USA. That is aggression.

Josh
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That is self-defense. Ever hear of Pearl Harbor? Awaken the sleeping giant and see what happens.

Anonymous
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when did any one say “wipe anyone off the face of the earth” ?

israelUSA is the global bully

read alt news and dont believe joseph farrah

Josh
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TEHRAN — “Iran’s conservative new president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, said Wednesdaythat Israel must be “wiped off the map” and that attacks by Palestinians would destroy it, the ISNA press agency reported.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/26/world/africa/26iht-iran.html

Next.

W.
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Note that Melanie Phillips does not mention the ‘I’ (Islamist) word in regard to Obama. Either she was reticent or afraid to do so in the already Islamist-ravaged UK, or did not know it at the time.

Sentinel
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It stuns me that we ever gave these people aid or called them “friends”.

Russia and China are NOT our friends. Never have been… likely never will be.

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This is the kind of crap you get when a Russian opens his mouth.

They couldn’t field an army with a rake. Obama- Tell your cousins in Russia to shove it, Bud, or I will, you pissant, yellow-belly, muslim loving coward. Put that in your PC pipe and puff it!

Pete Gardner
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I wonder how Russia and China would reconsider things once they start getting overrun by Islam?

Ricardo Galvan
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They’d handle it the way they already do.

Mass murder.

The Muslimes have met their match with the commies and KGB types.

Anonymous
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Last month a story was carried in the Israeli press stating that based on statement made by the Russian Foreign Minister, the perception was that Russia was ready to defend Iran against a military attack.

P.S. Israel had nothing to do with the attack on Libya.

Chris Dias
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watch: The Soviet Story.

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Interesting. My mother, God rest her, was the original church lady. She was especially concerned with the prophecies of Gog and Magog in Ezek 38-39. Interesting thing is that the “Armies of the North”, who are to be allied with Persia correlates with Russia to an alarming degree. This is getting interesting.

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We’re getting there, but not quiet yet. I suspect we will see the middle-east form into a caliphate first before the Magog invasion takes place.

Anonymous
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Rap fan.

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Obama’s pathetic weakness and lack of bold leadership is emboldening our enemies around the world. They know we are cutting our defenses and our offensive capabilities because Obama (The Idiot manchild) is proud to say so. This isn’t going to end well at all, be prepared.

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Yes, the weaker America get’s the bolder countries like Iran, Russia, and North Korea get.

Lorili
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Lorili

Yeah, let’s borrow another $15 trillion to destroy a few more countries with, that’ll make us safe.

K-Bob
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Great. The Russians have been steadily making lots of money supplying oil and gas to world markets, ever since Bill Clinton helped throttle back our domestic exploration. So now, thanks to environmentalists and global warmists and their vice-like grip on Clinton’s, W’s, and Barack’s short hairs, Russia has plenty of resources to back up Iran in a major conflict.

The best possible solution here would be to drill here, drill now, and build new refinery capacity. Announce it today. That’s how you deal with Russia.

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Here’s what I think. On Syria, we shouldn’t really be involving ourselves. Why? 1. Its just another Islamic revolution under the cover of democratic revolution like in Egypt, Libya, Tunisie etc.; 2. If #1 is correct, then chances are, if we involve ourselves successfully, lets just say “grateful” will not be a word we’ll be hearing in abundance from the Syrians (Watched CNN the other day; citizens are already blaming US-made weapons. And that, while we’re busting our behinds in the UN on their behalf); 3. Syria is a sovereign state; if there will be regime change in a sovereign state, as a rule, it should always be carried out by the nation’s own people, not an officious, do-gooder “International community”. In other words: We have no real moral right to interfere; 4. Do I really have to go on?… However, on Iran, because it has for long now been… Read more »

American Duckie
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I agree completely unidentified brother. I admit I do enough of my own Bible prophecy talk- but I always try to remind myself and others when I talk about it, that this, that or the other thing doesn’t mean that prophecy is happening right now, but it shows that the world is getting ready for that prophetic event. Kind of like when a lot of people used to ask me if I thought dear leader was the antichrist, I told them no, but the way people acted when he first came on the world stage, and his initial popularity among foreign countries, his getting the Nobel PEACE prize, his apology tours, and people calling him messiah etc, shows that the world is ripe for a world leader who will be the Antichrist. I agree though, that many non believers see when things don’t happen right away, it makes them disbelieve… Read more »

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I thought I was the only one who saw the significance of Obama’s rise in that way. A wise one you are ABC.

Anonymous
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I must disagree. You are too involved in politics to even see the Christ.

American Duckie
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American Duckie

And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.

Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.

He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Rev. 22:6,7,20

There is nothing wrong for watching the signs of the times. If we have our focus on Jesus and await His return, which Christ followers have been doing since He left and promised us He would come again.

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I just wonder how you can advocate war on one side of your mouth and say you are a Christian with the other side. Wow. Religion has failed big time.

Lorili
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Name one time religion hasn’t failed.

Anonymous
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There are some who stay out of politics and concentrate on following the example of Christ. They do not take up arms and many of them were killed in Germany during WWII because they would not fight. They are imprisoned in South Korea because they refuse military service. Many of them were killed protecting each other during the genocide in Rwanda. They consider themselves brothers although they are in every country in the world. They obey the governments they live under except when that government requires them to do things against the commands of Christ.

American Duckie
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American Duckie

Following one’s conscience is fine- if there are people who don’t believe in fighting because it goes against what they believe Christ wants, that is a good thing. Those who are Christian and are also soldiers are just as well following where they believe they are meant to be- you can not judge them. I know a few men who are very Godly, good and honest men who love the Lord, and they also happen to be soldiers. Would you judge them also?

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I love the way the prophesy’s in the Bible are playing out just like God said they would!

Jim Botts
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Jim Botts

The dirty little secret here is that Iran is a troublemaker in the middle east. This keeps oil prices above 70 bucks per barrel. Coincidently, the Russian economy really begins suffering when the price per barrel falls below 70/barrel. Oil is one of the few profitable operations Russia has as a nation. They don’t make cars people want to buy, thats for sure.

So yeah, the Russians like Iran making trouble in the world.

All the more reason to drill here, drill now, and flood the world market with oil.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Yes. Oil, 3rd rate military equipment, and Soviet era nuclear technology. So Russia will milk Iran for all they’re worth before they move on to the next adventure.

K-Bob
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K-Bob

I should’a read further before commenting!

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Russia has been looking to find it’s place in the world since the fall of the Soviet Union, they seem to have found it in the middle east. Hook meet jaw.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

It has been a common theme for Russia to de-stabilize countries across the globe since the fall ove the old empire. Russia doesn’t want a war as it isn’t in the best economic interest of the country or its oligarchs.

11Steve11
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11Steve11

I have wondered for a long time, did the United States pick or make the current day oligarchs of Russia, were they existent before the supposed fall of communism in USSR (if so they had to be staunch followers of communism) or were they self created entrepreneurs that probably took their black market and ruthless trades into the free world?

Anonymous
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Anonymous

When you think about it the Russians haven’t fought in a war since there failed invasion into Afghanistan in the 80’s, and before that WW2. And even then they were reluctant to get involved. Russia likes to shake it’s saber alot but for the most part they are content to fight proxy wars.

Ricardo Galvan
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Ricardo Galvan

Chechnya, Georgia. They have been fighting wars, just with people who were too weak to really resist.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

They were more like skirmishes than wars. Georgia was not even a contest.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

So which of the following was won by the west.
Korea?
Vietnam?
Iraq?
Afghanistan?
Libya – still pending?
In fact except for a little interlude in a place called Granada where they had to use tourists maps because the military forgot to take some I can’t really think of an American victory – can you?

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I guess it depends how you define success.

Korea? We did save South Korea from the Commies.
Vietnam? We actually won all the major battles and most of the small ones too, it was in the political realm that we lost.
Iraq? We beat Saddam Hussein… twice. Our mistake was sticking around.
Afghanistan? We beat the Taliban fairly quickly. Same mistake as above.
Libya – still pending? This was NATO we only supplied equipment.

You forgot WW2, WW1. The Revolutionary war all successful wars.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Korea remained divided. You lost. Vietnam beat the hell out you and sent you packing. Iraq. Yes you overthrew the secular government of Saddam Hussein, the man your government financed and armed including weapons of mass destruction. Remember the nice little photo op with Dick ‘Satan’ Cheney. You have now handed it to a pack of feuding radicals who have just also kicked you out as well. Afghanistan. Well you are basically there to ensure the poppy harvest and the poppies are growing in record quantities so thats your achievement. All the kids around the planet becoming addicts to fund US black ops is a price worth paying I suppose. Other than that you are getting your butts kicked by the Taliban. The nice little fundamentalist band the CIA created to fight the Russians. Karma I guess. Now Pakistan won’t let you in and Russia holds the keys you either… Read more »

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Oh please stop with the crazy conspiracies your batting for the wrong team dear.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

It’s the dawn of a new cold war.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

yeah and look at what we have at the helm…for that matter, should romney win, I do not think he has what it takes…God help us

Lorili
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Lorili

And the war profiteers are drooling with anticipation of big buckets of money.

11Steve11
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11Steve11

No one is better at Sabre rattling then Russia.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

The Soviet Union never left us. It just changed name and redrew border lines. Time for Cold War II.

John Bohler
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John Bohler

aaaaaawwwwwwwww i was thinking the Second Cold War would be with China!

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Naa… its more Cyber Wars with them. And besides, they know Kung Fu. grin

American Duckie
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American Duckie

Oh dang, now I have that song on my mind again….http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhUkGIsKvn0

BSScoop
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BSScoop

Careful Gog and Magog, picking on Israel might not be in your best interest.

BS
Don’t Tread On Me

ABC, you beat me to it.

American Duckie
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American Duckie

Yeah, but I like the way you said it! grin

Cindy08
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Cindy08

Don’t forget that “Gog” is a person. He is the chief prince of Magog. Some ancient beliefs put Magog in Turkey. Part of Turkey used to belong to the Assyrian Empire. And the Bible addresses the antichrist under another name: “The Assyrian”. So the armies of the North could mean Turkey as well. No doubt that they will benefit from the help of the Russians.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I pray you will find love in your hart.

Cindy08
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Cindy08

What is a hart?

Anonymous
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Anonymous

You are so unbelievably misled. Read the Bible and don’t listen to those Rap (rapture) artists. What is happening or about to happen is a tragedy. People, children will die or be maimed or at least traumatized. And all of the decision makers are just guessing. They don’t know. Rap fans will be cheering when it starts, how sad. And they will be the most disappointed fans on the face of the earth. I believe the Bible, it says that man cannot direct his own steps. We stumble in and out of everything, stumble. Everything man touches turns to crap. We have complex and very difficult world problems that the most intelligent men (full of themselves) think that they can solve with a sound bite. 11 billion spent on the Super Bowl (a game) and that day 2500 children on average died when a 1$ a day supply of Plumpy… Read more »

American Duckie
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American Duckie

“I believe the Bible” Then you DO believe that Jesus will come back don’t you?

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Think Pharisees or the religious leaders in Jesus’ day. They thought they were ready for the Christ, yet they rejected him. Think follow the Christ. Only those Jesus said who are doing the will of God will be saved, tho many would be performing powerful works in his name, he called them workers of lawlessness. Most religious people are involved with the very people you quoted from in Revelations above (rulers, military men etc.), these find themselves on the wrong side when Christ does appear. Politics is no place for a Christian, it means compromise and blood guilt. As a Christian how would you explain to Jesus the blood on your hands because you voted for some politician who’s war killed innocent people?

American Duckie
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American Duckie

I know the pharisees were too busy with self importance, they enjoyed the high positions of their order and considered themselves innocent of the Law. They did not see Jesus because they were self focused, and grew angry and jealous when the people started following and listening to Jesus. The thing is, I follow and listen to Jesus, and don’t put a whole lot of stock in what man may say or claim. I am not perfect, but I belong to Him, or I would never have the Holy Spirit in me. I belong to Him, and I love Him. I stumble and fall, and He always picks me up, He has gotten me through the most difficult times of my life- even before I knew Him. Politics is worldly, I know, but it is not wrong to be involved in trying to voice an opinion by voting or supporting… Read more »

Cindy08
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Cindy08

AbiC is right! I too believe in the Bible. The Bible gives hope in times of trouble. As much as you would like it to be doomy and gloomy, there is hope but there is still Bible Prophecy. If you have time, read Ezechiel 34-35, it is unfolding before your very eyes. I pray He’ll find you ready when he comes back. Peace.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

What if you find you are on the wrong side? According to Jesus many will. It is time to be sure that you stand squarely on his side. Are you doing his will? Do you know what his will is? For he said he desires none to die. Do you know who the Israel of God is? Even Israel does not know.

American Duckie
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American Duckie

He desires none to die, it’s true- but He knows that there will be many who keep their hearts hardened toward Him. As for Israel, they are coming back to the Lord, God of their fathers. More and more are coming to read the Scriptures and learn of Him again- just as they forgot and called upon Him time and time again.

Cindy08
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Cindy08

Salvation is personal. I am not sure where you stand in your walk with G-d. Have you accepted Jesus as your Savior? Do you believe that He died on the cross and on the third day, He rose again? That He is alive to day and calling upon every sinner? His will for your life can only perfected through Him. I know Him as Savior and Lord. How about you?

American Duckie
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American Duckie

I’ve been watching Russia a lot the past few years. It’s not surprising and it fits into Bible prophecies-

Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it?

And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army:

And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.
Ezekiel 38:14-16

Conservative_Hippie
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Conservative_Hippie

I’m ready AbC! I look forward to the day I can see my Savior face to face!

American Duckie
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American Duckie

Me too C Brother! It’s gonna be amazing!!! And it will be a chance for many of us to meet as well grin

Cindy08
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Cindy08

This could just be the year!

American Duckie
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American Duckie

NOW THAT is something to get tingles for! Sorry Cindy, I couldn’t resist wink

My unsaved family get worried about me when I talk about it- they don’t understand why I get happy when I think about it. But nothing much makes me happier than that day when He comes for His own.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Amen!

11Steve11
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11Steve11

I am convinced that the Armies from the North do not attack Israel until after the construction of the new Temple. Many prophesies will not be fulfilled until after the construction of the new Temple. They have the materials and are ready to begin construction-“http://www.templeinstitute.org/about.htm”

American Duckie
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American Duckie

I agree Steve, that the main war will not come until afterwards, as that verse says that Israel will be at peace without walls. They’re not there yet. But all the things we see happening, while not being “THE” prophetic event, sure is building up to them.

PunditPawn
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PunditPawn

Oh come on! I heard Nancy Peloski and Comrade Reidski swear that Russia couldn’t possibly be a threat to us.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

If they said it, it must be true!! I need an eek smiley!

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

Saber rattling. Russia’s military is barely capable of dealing with small Nation States like Georgia and Chechnya, not too mention Islamic terrorism. They would be hard pressed to deal actions in Iran or Syria on top of those. People think our military is over extended?

The Ancient
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The Ancient

Keep saying that, then when you see Mushroom Clouds on the Horizon, because there is nothing in Montana worth nuking, you will ask yourself “How could have been soo wrong”

11Steve11
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11Steve11

I’ve often wondered, when the good book says you will see Jesus, “Behold, he cometh with the clouds; and every eye shall see him”, Just how prophetic and relevant to current times that verse may be? Whatever the case, Thy will be done!

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

You don’t know much about Montana, do you?

patriot077
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patriot077

I sure hope you are right, Ken, but I’m putting more stock in biblical prophecy. (see ABC’s post below)

Anonymous
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Anonymous

They can’t even launch a rocket. Didn’t the creme of their technology never make orbit and dove into the sea. We can still kick their rusky butts into the ground. Not for much longer the way we’re going though…

Lorili
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Lorili

The US has to rely on Russia to get men and supplies to the space station. They have heavy launch vehicles. The US has shit.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

And the joke is that the shit that you refer to is better than the Russian’s best.

11Steve11
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11Steve11

If I had read your post before I posted, I would have seen that all I had to do to make my point, was to agree with you.

W.
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W.

Factor in that the US has a President with divided loyalties that work against his own country – Marxist and Islamist – and that he has committed military assets to the S. China Sea to protect his beloved Islamic-Indonesia. Obama will not look after US interests in either place, really, and many know this. Israel, China and Russia know this and so does any other nation with any intelligence program. Congress and the GOP candidates know it. (but they won’t and can’t talk about it on air.) Many just plain citizens know it. An afternoon of research will show anyone with a high school education and an access to a computer who Obama really is and where he came from. But nevertheless, there has been a strange kind of PC media blackout. Here is a well-known conservative UK author in 2008: “You have to pinch yourself. A Marxist radical, who… Read more »

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