Sarah Palin: Quite appalling to be called a terrorist by Vice President

Sarah Palin said that though Tea Party members are used to being labeled as racists and inciters of violence, she found it especially appalling that the second in command of the most powerful office in the world would say that Tea Party members are acting like terrorists.



Regarding the debt limit deal, she went on to say that while it is a victory to change the debate toward talking about the debt, there is much more work to be done. She does acknowledge that the debt limit deal is a step in the right direction but she doesn’t like giving what she believes may be the most liberal President in US history another 2 trillion dollars that we don’t have with no major reforms:

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113 thoughts on “Sarah Palin: Quite appalling to be called a terrorist by Vice President

  1. This is precisely why I’ve had it up to my ass with so-called “civil discourse.”

    We’re being governed, for the time being, by a majority entirely oblivious to the words “hypocrisy” and “ludicrous.” They are consumed by an amoral lack of respect for the very people they govern, and are so thoroughly stupid themselves, their tiny, sophomoric brains cannot grasp the concept that perhaps, we knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing, self-destructive troglodytes don’t hang on every word that spews from their filthy sewers as though it were the Word of God.

    They are so completely and utterly clueless, they have failed to learn the lesson we taught them last November.

    I have no tolerance for them any longer, nor any so-called “progressive,” who, on the one hand, spends his days trying to convince me that his inability to do simple math is somehow preferable to actual thought, while simultaneously sending me emails, deriding my decision to put him out of his misery by casting him onto the same ash heap presently occupied by Grannie Goodness.

    Our “critics” are, not to put too fine a point on it, unabashedly obtuse, choosing to follow leaders every bit as qualified to legislate as the idiot at my grocery store who stares off into space whenever confronted with an item that just “won’t scan.”

    The Democrat Party – “it’s got what progressives crave…it’s got electrolytes!!!”

  2. Well, isn’t everything about Sara Palin??? She and her sycophants have passed the terrible twos”’ but still belong in a time out chair.

  3. What joe “hair plugs” biden said is one of the most despicable things ever said by a VP about the American public. Hey joey: go to hell. You and your boss are the lowest of low.

  4. Once Gov Palin commented to Andrew Halcro (an independent-and someone she debated later) in 2006 complimenting him on all of his facts and figures and policy knowledge and details but then questioned him, “Does any of this really matter?” Halcro later told the BBC that after debating Sarah over 2 dozen times that she was right that the art of presentation WAS more important that all the knowlege of facts and figures,etc. She is a master of presentation in regards to appearance and has learned enough to capsulize complex issues into talking points. I don’t know whether or not she will run or whether she could win-what I do know and what is factual is that Obama was picked by the people and look at this country now. Obviously anything is possible. I personally would much rather her work in the Senate perhaps taking over Jon Kyl’s seat and be a strong influence there.

  5. Uh yeah…whatever happened to that 3-day-posting-on-the-internet-before-the-vote thing?

    We remember that too.
    Thanks for bringing that up, Governor Palin!

  6. Populist Princess Palin personifies pioneer spirit, pugnacity, pride, perseverance, & perfect pulchritude. She is poised & prepared for the Presidency.

    1. And a principled President she shall be. 🙂

      (By the way, I had to look up “pulchritude” — good one. Though doesn’t that word look/sound like it should have the opposite meaning from the one it has?)

  7. As usual, Gov. Sarah Palin is correct on policy matters, enchanting & eloquent to see & to hear.

  8. All of the attacks on President Bush, I never once heard him attack the American people. I wish evil on all of those that have aided Barack Hussein Obama. God, I loathe that name.

    1. I still can’t believe the US was conned into voting for a man with that name not eight years after 9/11. Saddam Hussein, Barack Hussein — that stuck out to me. Everyone who says Obama’s a Christian, I don’t what he is and neither do you. One thing I do know is this: I read that Nicholas Kristof column where he’s mooning over Obama’s mellifluous rendition of the Islamic call to prayer — the most beautiful sound in the world, I believe Obama said he thought it was; to me it sounds like a call to war against the infidels.

      Whatever Obama is faithwise, presidentwise he’s a disaster — there should be a picture of his face next to the word “disaster” in the dictionary.

      1. Obama has no religion as most people think of it. He recognizes the power in leveraging organized religion against the societies and governments that protect it. In Wright’s and Pfleger’s Chicago “churches” he found such useful supremacy in their “black liberation theology”. The members of such churches are an invaluable weapon of a “community organizer”.

        Islam is the ultimate supremacist movement. It takes over entire governments, societies, armies and financial systems after planting its seed of “religion”. It’s members are willing to destroy anything in the society they target, and even kill themselves and others upon command of their leaders. Those leaders have no religious belief in the Christian sense, they are supremacists and violent fascists masquerading as religious leaders.

        As a man raised with the teachings of islam, the value of such a force is not lost on a marxist like Obama. He is far more savvy in using it than so many other foolish politicians who embrace islam for power.

  9. I’m driving 1200 miles from Connecticut to Waukee, Iowa to attend on Sept. 3 what I hope will be the launching of a rescue effort to save America.
    Palin-Rubio 2012! LETS ROLL!!

    1. Do you have any insight on what Rubio would do with the illegals?

      I have been trying to nail down his true position on amnesty and illegals. Best I can tell is that he blocked every bill Florida tried to pass to deal with illegals when he was speaker, but seems to have reversed course to being hard against amnesty as a US Senate candidate. Not much on his solution out there though.

        1. I’ve got that part down – he speaks from the heart. It is the missing pieces I am trying to fill in.

      1. I think he’s an establishment guy in the making. He gives great speeches, but he is making political calculations in every move he makes. He doesn’t have the experience to be able to make those maneuvers on his own so I believe he is being propped up. He stays away from issues that polarize and has tea party backing.

        IMO he’s the liason between GOP and tea party….this has been my position since Feb of this year and when others realize the same thing it leads me to believe that I wasn’t stumbling on some random thought.

      2. Hi sDee.
        I couldn’t find anything about his stand on Illegals However, His back ground tell me he maybe lenient to someone trying to better themselves.
        Hope this helps. Palin & Rubio 2012……

        Rubio is the second son and third child of Cuban exiles Mario Rubio (1927–2010)[2] and Oria Garcia (born 1931), and was born in Miami, Florida. His siblings are: Mario (born 1950), Barbara (born 1960) and Veronica (born 1972). Rubio currently attends Christ Fellowship, an evangelical Protestant Church in West Kendall, Fla., where he has attended for the last six years.[3] However, Rubio has been been baptized, confirmed, and married in the Catholic Church.[1][4][5] Rubio is fluent in Spanish. His father was a bartender and his mother worked as a hotel housekeeper in Las Vegas, Nevada. Rubio lived in Las Vegas from 1979 to 1985, before his family returned to Miami in the summer of 1985.

      3. I want to see illegal immigration ended. But I’m more than happy to seal the border, boot the gangbangers and other criminals, and once that’s done talk with great reasonableness about the normal people who hold jobs and are trying to raise happy kids and stay afloat like everyone else.

        In the meantime Obama’d like to let in as many more illegals as possible, so they can beef up the pet-, deceased neighbor-, and cartoon character-vote in 2012. (Another among the many reasons why Gov. Palin is just the one to send Obama back to the men’s club jacuzzi in Chicago with Rahm Emanuel: she’ll actually call the Democrats out on all their illegal crap. Imagine that: a GOP candidate who fights back. By election day I should be reasonably certain I’m not hallucinating.)

        Me, right now — all I want them to do is stop spending money. I don’t know why that’s a lot to ask of the GOP. In fact, I don’t know why it’s a lot to ask of Democrats. Don’t these people have kids, or know people who have kids? Do they not have retirement funds?

        Democrats, if you’re reading this, understand, if the currency is turned into toilet paper, there will be no more Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, or Obamacare. When you can’t afford stuff, that means you can’t have it. If that wasn’t the case, believe me, I’d have a brand-spanking-new Porsche, and when I wasn’t tearing around in it, doing my part to help cook the planet, it would be parked at my place in the Hamptons, where I’d be staying till mid-September.

  10. Palin/Rubio Thats the ticket….

    Palin has proven she can take whatever the left dishes out and stay true to her beliefs,
    Rubio, well he is just plain freaking awesome….

    1. The islamomarxist wants to be a tyrant ?
      Whodathunk that 3 years ago ?
      But atleast this one will have a dozen courtiers around him.
      Wonder who the court jester would be ?

          1. I know.
            Sorry.

            *slaps self*

            But you have to admit…as a court jester, Weiner has a lot of potential.

            Weiner:
            “Hey look! Watch me make a horndog out of a towel!”

            *the crowd ::gasps::… and covers their eyes*

            Uh oh, I did it again.
            *runs out of thread*

    1. I have always supported Palin, but I am definitely warming up to that ticket! Electorally it could be a disaster for the left!

  11. Aaah…common ground?? Sadly KeninMontana [hate to say it but] those days are gone. The only common ground that the Libs know is the ground they give you unless they decide to take it because of “Eminent Domain”.

    Nope. As far as I’m concerned, the days of nice-y nice” are over with these creeps. I’ve had it. It’s time to tell them “our way or the highway”. There’s no compromise with these wingnuts. Look where it got us today.

    Nope, I’m done with Libs and trying to appease. It’s over.

    I’m just glad Sarah is still speaking. She’s appears to be the only bright light out there.

    1. Libertarians not Liberals (HUGE difference) is who I’m talking about Conservatives finding common ground with.

      1. lol, Wish everyone would look closer at Ron Paul’s ideology and how it is exactly what this country needs. I’ve looked at his voting record and if everyone voted like Paul we would really have some positive changes. The only area of contention is Ron Paul doesn’t think we should spend trillions of $’s blowing the crap out of people on the other side of the globe.

        1. I don’t agree with everything he says, but I agree with more of it than not. That said I don’t see that he can garner enough of the broader support he would need to be an effective President or to even win the nomination or the oval office. He has been stigmatized to such a degree that he can not win, one of the biggest things is the same thing that causes the mainstream to reject Full on Libertarians, legalizing drugs and the “blowback” statement pretty well finished him off. I do think that he would make a fantastic Secretary of the Treasury though.

          1. I recognize the stigmatization and wonder if that won’t help him this time around. People are really wanting change. One of the aces he holds is his foriegn policy and the number of disenfranchised Obama supporters who wanted us out of the wars. This could make for an interesting 3 candidate race because he won’t win the GOP primary.

          2. I recognize the stigmatization and wonder if that won’t help him this time around. People are really wanting change. One of the aces he holds is his foriegn policy and the number of disenfranchised Obama supporters who wanted us out of the wars. This could make for an interesting 3 candidate race because he won’t win the GOP primary.

    2. Libertarians not Liberals (HUGE difference) is who I’m talking about Conservatives finding common ground with.

  12. Sorry Sarah, this WH is NOT out of touch with us .
    This WH is downright hostile to American people.

    This WH is in full assault mode against non-communists+non-jihadys in our country.

    This WH is aggressive and confrontational towards the patriotic people of this country.

    This WH is hateful towards the hard working tax-payers of this country.

    This WH is eliminationist towards the powers and prosperitiy of our country.

    This WH is parasitic towards the resources of this country.

    This WH is nihilistic towards our values and policies which made us the super power .

    This WH is destructive towards the people it is supposed to work for.

    This WH has dictatorial motives.

    1. I agree. But it’s not the Dems who shock me; they’re just doing what they always do. But the Republicans! Rep. Boehner and Sen. McConnell don’t belong in this game. Rep. Boehner *wanted* to be Speaker — he weaseled his way to get the Speaker’s gavel, pushing aside *Rep. Bachmann*, who *can* fight and was *ready* to fight.

      Look at what they just did! The House had *passed* Cut, Cap, and Balance — the ball was in the Senate’s court! Every House Republican should have gone home to their districts *immediately* and held town halls every single day to explain that they had done their job, and it was now Harry Reid’s responsibility to pass Cut, Cap, and Balance, and Obama to sign it, or cause us to default.

      That’s it. The table was set. All they had to do was push back and say “We’re done. It’s in the Senate now.”

      And yet look what they did — they folded on a perfect hand. This crap that’s going to be signed is their doing.

      The Republican Party is a sick party. The Democrats are sick, too, but in a different way. Rep. Pelosi probably represents around 8-10% of the country, and they gave her the Speakership: a far-left statist freak who would love nothing more than to reenact the Fairness Doctrine and shut down talk radio and take over the Internet a la Hugo Chavez — that’s who the Democrats gave America as their Speaker. An absolute freak — a leftist kook that is waaay to the left of most Democrats. I live in NYC. I was born and raised on Long Island. *Most* of the people I know are Democrats. My family, my friends, coworkers — they live by the Times and CNN, so their heads are pretty much up their asses (e.g., I just saw my aunt and cousins, and I asked them if they had heard of something called Project Gunrunner; they hadn’t) — and they still are put off by Rep. Pelosi. They all voted for Obama, but they’re shell-shocked by this point.

      So they were ready for someone like Rep. Bachmann — whose views are shared by a *majority* of Americans, not some little freak fringe like Rep. Pelosi’s — to come in and explain to them what’s going on. They were waiting for someone to present them with the reality that the US is en route to bankruptcy, and to say Here’s the steps we have to take, not flinch away from, to pull back from the cliff. They vote Democrat I’d say largely because of abortion, but they’re professional women with professional husbands — they’re not radicals, and they were primed to listen to a ballsy, smart, fiscally conservative woman like Rep. Bachmann, and to get it.

      *That’s* the opportunity the GOP had and flushed right down the crapper. Rep. Boehner and Sen. McConnell did that. They both need to be primaried — that should be a top priority.

      As far as Gov. Palin is concerned, I can’t wait to watch her take Obama apart — she’s gonna grind him to dust underneath one of her high heels.

      Meantime, excuse me while I go chug some Pepto and ginger ale.

      1. My sentiments EXACTLY! Thank you for saying it so much sucinctly than I have. If it wasn’t 11:00 AM, I’d chug my Pepto with something a wee bit stronger.

  13. It is a done deal so there is no reason for Gov. Palin to bad mouth anybody. She is calm, cool, and reasonabe in the interview. Of course the only thing that will be reported from the interview is the Biden comment. Is there any prove that Biden said that or is it hearsay??? I don’t like Greta asking Gov. Palin to comment on something that might be hearsay.

    You never know what kind of trick the dems have up their sleeves. Look no further thann what happen on the floor of the House today.

  14. I want millions of Tea Party activists in DC in September. I am in and will help. Let’s move out and show the Progressives and the Super Congress just how determined we are to bring practical ideas to DC. Pick a date and let’s mount up.

  15. Thank you for the quick posting RS, as I don’t have cable. Sarah telling like it is again. Her message never changes, because this is who she is. Love her.

  16. Sarah Palin stood up too much for a loser Republican party that forced a bad deal down the Tea Party’s throat. I think she offered too much of a defense of the Tea Party cowards that voted for this thing. She phoned it in.

  17. Mr. Palin could you ask your wife a huge favor on behalf of a needy nation to help us out here?

  18. Mr. Palin could you ask your wife a huge favor on behalf of a needy nation to help us out here?

  19. So at the end of a long, stinking, bunch of deal making, business as usual crapola, we have a spokesman representing us who is keeping her eye on the ball. Now that’s a good thing. And she seems to have a new look. Nice!

  20. Patriots, this is our candidate, Ms. Palin is a self made woman, as are the Tea party Patriots who are now freshmen in congress.
    These people were elected to do there job by their constituency, against the status quo people in office who were co-opted into the political elite’s voting block.
    The political elite did not think the TEA party would have such a dramatic effect on the voting populous.
    We need to continue to support these Patriots and elect more into office to stay on track for the future of our country.

    1. Had a passing thought, with all the potential tickets that have been floating about, don’t know as I ever remember seeing this one, Sarah Palin / Ron Paul.
      Palin has the executive experience that Paul does not, however Paul’s years of experience in the legislative branch would pay dividends in getting needed reforms through the congress. Both have highly organized and ardent (as we are all aware of) support in place, both are at home with the “grass roots” and both seem to resonate with tea partiers. The question is can the supporters of both come together for the good of the country? I see it as having real possibilities and potential. /Shields UP 🙂

      1. I have to say, you’ve piqued my interest with this idea KenInMontana. I don’t really align myself with libertarians, although I do lean that way for some things- but with Sarah’s not taking crap from no one attitude, and Paul’s common sense on financial stuff- they might compliment each other. You may have something.

      2. I have to say, you’ve piqued my interest with this idea KenInMontana. I don’t really align myself with libertarians, although I do lean that way for some things- but with Sarah’s not taking crap from no one attitude, and Paul’s common sense on financial stuff- they might compliment each other. You may have something.

        1. Although I am not a full tilt Libertarian, I’m kind of a blend of a Conservative and a Libertarian in my political outlook. I’ve always felt the two at their cores had more things in common(individual rights, constitutional adherence in government, personal freedom and liberty, States rights) than not, once you parse out the fringes of both schools of thought. If this America is going to survive we need to be finding some common ground here or it is all for naught.

                1. KeninMontana: came out as a Conservative (small “l” libertarian) eschewing fringe elements
                  Jayneie59: slammed the unmentioned Ron Paul “If you don’t consider Ron Paul fringe then you need to do some homework”
                  KeninMontana:”When did I say or imply that?”
                  Jaynie59: “Say or imply what?”

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                2. Bill Hedrick: inserts himself into a thread without reading the whole thing.

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                3. Bill Hedrick: inserts himself into a thread without reading the whole thing.

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                4. Do you consider Ron Paul fringe? Or was that “passing thought” you had about him being a VP pick a moment of libertarian delusion?

      3. A better pairing would be Palin/Rand Paul-

        The idea behind this would be Palin to tie the governments hands, and Paul to step in after her term(s) to finish off the beast called government….The younger Paul is a much better communicator than his father and he’ll be around a while longer in this game. Only problem I have is leaving the Senate without one of their best guys.

        I’m not a Palin supporter so unless no one steps up, I would think she’s too risky.

        1. I am thinking that it has to be someone who can win and then carry on for 8 years after her. It will take at least 16 years to reverse the damage and get back on solid ground.

          1. As much as I’m disappointed with the field, I think Cain and Perry can win. Throw in any VP (none from the Senate b/c we need them in the Senate) that can promote a strong U.S. and we have a winning ticket.

            I think it will take 16 years just to get a majority and lose it due to cuts and how those cuts will affect the dependents government has created. It can likely take 100 years to get us back to when we were the rest of the world’s end-zone.

            1. I’ve been saying this a lot, but I think it will be necessary to start civil dis-obedience, stop paying taxes, refuse to abide by EPA regulations, etc.

              People need to go ballistic and show the 535 members of Congress, they are outnumbered and by hook or by crook they will know their role.

              1. If it were possible to organize on that level, I would agree- but the left is the closest to that kind of organization and they are attempting to do it with the banks this year…………still not enough.

                Congress is supposed to be our strong arm, which is why so many of us feel they failed us.

                1. So what are we waiting for?

                  Congress is a joke and has no respect for us, why should we show them any respect.

                  Organizing a massive “do not pay your income taxes” project would take little effort and send a massive message to Congress when they have no money to spend.

                2. What I’m telling you is that a revolt before everyone has been “offended” enough only casts you as the enemy before the people are stirred up.

                  Giving people a goal before they are stirred up enough to act is useless…..they have to be at the brink before they are sucseptible to suggestion.

                  What game do you think the left has been playing?

                3. I hear what you are saying, what I am saying is if people can’t feed their kids, pay their student loans, etc. they will have little choice.

            2. I started out very supportive of Cain. As time passes, my belief he can win is dwindling. He isn’t my first pick anymore in the primary, but I would of course support him if he emerged the winner.

      4. I like the way you are “thinking out of the box” Ken.
        I wonder if Mr. Paul would accept the Vice President position though?
        I would think that he would put his country before his own political ambitions.
        Your idea has a certain appeal that seems to make more and more sense as I think about it.
        It is the “out of the box” thinking that will put us back on track.
        Politics creates strange bed fellows I might add.
        Palin/Paul has a good ring to it as well. Good call.

      5. There is absolutely no way Sarah Palin would EVER consider Ron Paul for one very simple reason: he hates this country and has no problem stating exactly why he hates it. Ron Paul believes we deserved 9/11. That is not my opinion, that is a fact based on his own statements. Statements he has repeated many times. It is not even arguable and anyone who tries to argue it will prove only one thing: they are not only stupid they are hateful.

        I hope you posted this just to see what kind of reaction you would get. Well, what do you think of the reaction you got? Scary, isn’t it? Scares the crap out of me. Scares me that you might actually have been serious. Terrifies me that people took it seriously. Five likes. Downright terrifying.

        1. Your new found love of Sarah Palin does not entitle you to assassinate character.

          Blowback theory is questionable on several points, but it is not equivalent to “hating his country”.
          You might as well have said Herman Cain “hates his country” because he sat as the Chairman of a federal reserve branch, and they’re facilitating all the debt that is drowning this country.

          Are you perhaps employed/unemployed by a defense contractor?

          You’ve never come across as a particularly religious person, so your opposition to ‘blowback theory’ must not come from the well founded arguments for the total depravity of man or the everlasting hatred of Ismael for all his brothers.

          So what is your litmus test for love of country?

          1. My opinion of Ron Paul has nothing to do with my support for Sarah Palin. Ron Paul made himself very clear during the first round of debates during the 2008 primaries. Long before I had ever heard of Sarah Palin, I listened to Paul’s view of the world and his very committed and obviously sincere belief that 9/11 was the result of American foreign policy and our interference in the state affairs of other countries. This should not come as a revelation to anyone who knows anything at all about Ron Paul, and anyone who supports Ron Paul must be assumed to believe what he believes. That makes you hateful.

            You cannot defend such a stance to me and nothing you say will make you any less hateful for trying. The best you can do by defending Ron Paul is to prove that you are as stupid as you are hateful.

            Go ahead, give it a try.

            1. OK you generalized before, but now you just called me hateful.

              I’m not going to trash Ron Paul to defend myself before the likes of you.

              I agreed with you that ‘blowback theory’ is incorrect. I do not concede that adherence to that theory equates to hatred of country.

              I will forgive you and chalk it up to the strong passions following this debt limit circus.

              1. Let’s get one thing straight. My opinion of the “root cause” crowd, which is exactly what you and Ron Paul are, is born from many years of trying to reason with hateful America haters like you. I have heard EVERY excuse and justification and rationalization that every one of you hateful, horrible, evil people use to explain your twisted views of the world and America’s place in it.

                You are deluded. You are full of hate for this country. And any reason you think justifies such twisted thinking is proof that you are a mental midget incapable of seeing the difference between good and evil and right and wrong.

                Anyone who follows such thinking is deserving of nothing but contempt.

        2. What scares me is complacency, because that is exactly what brought us to where we are right now. This not the same country my forebears fought for and stood for, hell, it’s not even the same country I took the oath to defend. You want to know what I hate? I hate what my country has become.

          My family came to this country before the Revolution, it has served this country in a long unbroken line from that time, my son will turn 18 this coming January and he wants to serve, but I don’t know if I want him to serve what this nation has become. Because it has become something it was never intended to be.

          I see this nation in a microcosm on this blog everyday, I’ve seen the best of it and the worst of it. I see people who quote scripture one moment,the next they are spewing such vitriolic hate that I begin to wonder if they need an Exorcist ( I was raised old school Catholic, that’s not meant in jest). I’ve watched people on this blog with amazing civility dress down a lefty hate-troll in one comment and then seen them turn on an ally with the same hate filled rhetoric that they previously denounced the troll for. Are there times when I lose my cool? You bet. I have I said hateful things? Damn straight. But right now, I am interested in solutions, ideas, remedies for fixing the freaking mess this country has become and vitriol isn’t one of them. The problem we are facing is the death of the Republic and there is no one person who can fix it, as grave as things are it is going to take a lot of people, and if someone has one good idea out of ten, I say let them contribute that towards the solution instead of shoving them away. We are at that point where we either join with those of similar minds or America as we believe it should be is dead.

          1. Then you are part of the problem.

            What is killing this country is the same thing that is killing Western civilization. The breakdown of the civil society. That’s it in a nutshell. It’s this notion that all ideas have merit and all opinions should be respected. It’s the insidious, constant, and droning drumbeat of me, me, me and if I think something is true then it IS true and nobody has the right to judge me. The idea just because I think something, nobody has any right at all to judge me for what I say and do based on what I believe. It’s the evil notion that not only should everything I believe, say, and do be accepted, but celebrated and anyone who has the gall to disagree with me is a menace that needs to eradicated for the good of the thing I think is the civil society. It’s the complete inability to judge what good judgment is because the mere act of judging, and expressing it, makes you wrong no matter what you say or do.

            If all we had to overcome was complacency we’d be golden. The Tea Party is proof of that. Ignorance isn’t even a problem because that’s easily cured. You can see that in some Tea Party people, too. People who lived their entire lives fat, dumb, and relatively happy never knowing or caring about politics. They’re not complacent anymore and most of them are learning about conservatism and how it can save this country. But, and this is a big but, they have to wade through a sewer of competing ideas to get to the place society needs them to be.

            Will they get there? Not unless some of us are willing to let our own judgments be known about some of those ideas. Like Ron Paul and his hateful rhetoric. Like defending against any notion that America had 9/11 coming.

            Some ideas should be vilified and so should the people who spawn them and defend them. There is a saying that goes something like “I don’t agree with you, but I’ll defend your right to say it”. That sentiment has been twisted into the notion that that means I don’t have the right to hate what you say and you for saying it. It doesn’t mean that at all.

            People have the right to say whatever they want. And I have the right to shame them for it. I exercise that right.

            1. I would rather have my son’s “idealism” on the side of the Republic and not being used as a tool by the sad sick joke the anti constitutionalists that have come to power over the last 20 odd years, have made of our country. The Republicans blew it under Gingrich’s leadership back in the 90’s, They have become part of the problem, this debt limit debacle illustrates that in spades. The rise of the Tea Party gave me a glimmer of hope,for a moment, with what appeared to be the rise of a real a viable third option, but that movement was quickly co-opted by the Republican establishment and fractured and fell upon each other witnessed by the fact that there are now three factions that don’t trust each other, the same thing that happened to the Libertarians after Goldwater’s death (except Libertarians shattered instead of merely fracturing). Palin does give back a glimmer of hope,(this next bit will probably draw some heat, but oh well) she needs to stop being coy about it and jump in now before the establishment types and RINOs like Romney build up any more momentum than they already have because if she does not, the Republican “complacency block” will pull the lever for the “R” the establishment/media gives us and I think we all know who they want that to be. That said if she gets in I would support her with everything I have left, but I will not go there on a “maybe”. I have been let down once too often by a country that myself and my ancestors pledged to give our last full measure to if that was what was required, I will not sacrifice my son to it, I would rather he was at my side, than unwittingly ending up facing me from the opposite side.

              1. Sometimes my rabid idealism gets the best of me and overrides sensibility. I, too, see what you so eloquently explain here, but I must admit I am desperate for a return to our wonderful American ideals and its Constitution….but by any means necessary?

                I am not sure whether I am so willing to sacrifice the precious lives of our young adults who want to fight for our country as much as I see huge hope in them. When I see young adults, or anyone for that matter, who “get” our way of life and are willing to stand up and fight for it, I want to totally get behind them. I want to encourage any and all who can find a way to help.

                My own nephew was ready to enlist in the Navy, a longstanding family tradition, but my leftist other side of the family dissuaded him. I mourn for him in that regard. I would rather he had been let to live out his own dream….but then! this is so personal a decision, especially when it is one’s own son going into battle.

                The last thing we want to think is that they become cannon fodder for a country run amuck. As for me, I am still so idealistic, don’t think it’s crazy patriotism and a desire to sacrifice other people’s children, as much as it is a huge hope that our country can be saved.

                I see the brave young servicemen today and the things they say they are fighting for, and I gather hope for our country just from their dedication to our ideals and willingness to put their lives out there for it.

                I, too, dread being fooled or used or, worse, that they would be so, but I have mused that perhaps their idealism is in some contrast to mine, being even sharper, because I have seen too much. I don’t think I am jaded but just a bit less easily roused toward effort to sway the vote for instance.

                I want to say that I feel your son is a fortunate young man on many counts, among them being a father who cares very much.

            2. I would rather have my son’s “idealism” on the side of the Republic and not being used as a tool by the sad sick joke the anti constitutionalists that have come to power over the last 20 odd years, have made of our country. The Republicans blew it under Gingrich’s leadership back in the 90’s, They have become part of the problem, this debt limit debacle illustrates that in spades. The rise of the Tea Party gave me a glimmer of hope,for a moment, with what appeared to be the rise of a real a viable third option, but that movement was quickly co-opted by the Republican establishment and fractured and fell upon each other witnessed by the fact that there are now three factions that don’t trust each other, the same thing that happened to the Libertarians after Goldwater’s death (except Libertarians shattered instead of merely fracturing). Palin does give back a glimmer of hope,(this next bit will probably draw some heat, but oh well) she needs to stop being coy about it and jump in now before the establishment types and RINOs like Romney build up any more momentum than they already have because if she does not, the Republican “complacency block” will pull the lever for the “R” the establishment/media gives us and I think we all know who they want that to be. That said if she gets in I would support her with everything I have left, but I will not go there on a “maybe”. I have been let down once too often by a country that myself and my ancestors pledged to give our last full measure to if that was what was required, I will not sacrifice my son to it, I would rather he was at my side, than unwittingly ending up facing me from the opposite side.

      6. It’s been suggested on here before, but probably on a thread where Paulite comments obscured its significance. Our local TEA party sent representatives to meet Ron Paul and his supporters when the University students brought him in to speak a few months back. We were favorably impressed both with Rep Paul and the students who organized the event. We got the sense, however, that they think they started the TEA party movement during the 2008 campaign and that TEA partiers should be brought into the Ron Paul fold. I can’t fault them for sticking with their candidate to be the top of the ticket, especially with how much better he is performing this time around.

        With that said, Ron Paul has announced he will not seek re-election to the House. He’s in it for all the marbles. So, if Sarah Palin wins the primary I believe he would be willing to serve in the administration if it meant he had authority to do something. I don’t think anyone else would be brave enough to put him on a ticket.

        In his favor, nobody has more credibility on fiscal responsibility than Ron Paul so I anticipate that his star will rise in the polling following the debt limit debate.

    2. Had a passing thought, with all the potential tickets that have been floating about, don’t know as I ever remember seeing this one, Sarah Palin / Ron Paul.
      Palin has the executive experience that Paul does not, however Paul’s years of experience in the legislative branch would pay dividends in getting needed reforms through the congress. Both have highly organized and ardent (as we are all aware of) support in place, both are at home with the “grass roots” and both seem to resonate with tea partiers. The question is can the supporters of both come together for the good of the country? I see it as having real possibilities and potential. /Shields UP 🙂

  21. anybody else think Biden looks like Al Sharpton ??? Jo Sharpton, Al Biden …. run for Prez Sarah P !!!!

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