Sarah Palin: Todd Akin should withdraw or we’ll run a third party for Senate in Missouri

Palin said she isn’t trying to pile on because she understand what Akin is going through. But just as she knew when to fold them in Alaska, she says Akin needs to know when to fold them and the time is now. She said that if he doesn’t withdraw then she will get behind a third party to defeat Claire McCaskill and win that seat:



According to Dana Loesch, Palin can’t back a Steelman third party ticket, so it’d have to be someone else:

And then it may not be possible at all this go round:

UPDATE: Yep, the filing deadline was July 30:

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david r
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david r

Lets just take over the Republican party by voting in conservative candidates come this November. I understand her frustration as well as my own, and millions of others on today’s republican party and the rhinos who now occupy both houses of congress. In the autumn of 1789 and his return trip from France, Thomas Jefferson received a letter from President Washington asking him to serve as first Secretary of State under the Constitution. He accepted the appointment in December 1789, and arrived in New York, then the national capital, in March of 1790. The political atmosphere of the capital discouraged him. He later wrote: ” Here, certainly, I found a state of things which, of all I had ever contemplated, I the least expected. I had left France in the first year of her revolution, in the fervor of natural rights and zeal for reformation….But I cannot describe the wonder… Read more »

Arnold Emerson
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Arnold Emerson

There is a hope to beat Claire McCaskill and take back the Senate.

Jonathan Dine. He’s the Libertarian Party candidate and already running. Palin should endorse him. The Alaskan Libertarian Party endorsed her run for governor in 2006.

LIBERTYUSA
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LIBERTYUSA

Ryan / Palin 2020 .(period)

John_Frank
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John_Frank

Some interesting statistics.

According to YouTube, the “Forgiveness ad” was initially posted by Akin’s campaign on August 20, but went viral on August 21.

At the time of writing this comment it had been viewed 214,796 times. The top demographics for viewers were males between the ages of 35 – 44, 45 – 54 and 55 – 64.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R57E3S8RO7A

The key takeaway? While the viewing audience is scattered all over the country, women are not watching the video as much as men.

Extrapolating from this data, the viewing demographics likely means that Akin is facing a significant drop in support among women voters in Mo.

Can Akin reverse that trend? Not likely given that 4 former and 1 present US Senator from Missouri came out before 5:00 pm on Tuesday and urged him to withdraw from the race.

The bottom line? If Akin stays in the race, McCaskill wins.

Fried
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Fried

Neighbor: Ive seen on many of the local blogs here in Missouri people commenting they will stay home or vote Liberatarian if Akins is left on the ticket. I believe the evangelicals will vote for Akins anyway, just because of his pro-life stance.

rightaway
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rightaway

Palin,.. the expert at going “ROUGE” throwing one of her own under the bus,.. PRICELESS !

John_Frank
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John_Frank

No, Sarah Palin did not throw Akin under the bus. He did that to himself.

theneighborhoodguy01
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theneighborhoodguy01

One of ours screws up and we think we have to whack him before the Lefties get to him…

In this instance, the phenomenally damaging knee-jerk reaction from Rove and the others, have left conservatives nowhere to turn. NOWHERE!

The backlash here will be focused BACK at the Republican Party from the 38-40 percent of Missouri’s self described evangelical conservative voters that still support Akin, and wouldn’t vote for a criminal like McCaskill in any event.

Now, they’ll just stay home!!!

Next time, I suggest The Republican big shots and PACs refrain from the mad dash to righteous one upmanship. Todd Akin said something really stupid, but the Republicans tried to bury him before even trying CPR…

nuffsaid
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nuffsaid

If I could get every commenter on this story into a single room where there was an American Flag hanging on the wall and the “Star Spangled Banner” was playing in the back ground, there wouldn’t be a dry eye in the house.

You know liberals are going to start to use Right Scoop as a source for conservative “hot buttons.” In other words, they will get the ammunition for their next smear campaign, another one which will drag us off topic for another three days, from Right Scoop.

Talk bad about Obamerrhiod and the idiot Biden, despise communism, socialism and yellow bellied, parasites that suck your wealth into bellies where the create children for the abortionist’ knfe, but cherish and care for each fellow conservative. There really are too damned few of them, us, around

dlg1956
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dlg1956

Ann Wagoner would be a excellent replacement for Akin as Steelman or Brunner cannot run due to the sore looser law.

Ann Wagoner is a solid conservative with the voting record, in the state senate, to know where her heart is.

SaraPFan
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SaraPFan

I’m seeing a lot of backlash about Sarah’s comments. Sarah has been in politics a long time. She’s ran in many elections. According to her, there is a September 25th deadline by which Akin can again get out. Remember in the 2012 Republican primary, candidates had their names on the state ballot and then get out of the race, like Rick Perry did? Rick Perry told his supporters to vote for Newt in a critical state. Candidates did the same in states they knew they couldn’t win. George Stephanopolis asked Todd Akin a question mentioning the September 25th deadline that Palin mentioned. I’m thinking that Sarah is imploring him to take one for the team by dropping out by September 25 and supporting someone else even though his name might still be on the ballot. There were many names on the ballot in my state during the last Presidential Republican… Read more »

Fried
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Fried

Sarah Palin came to Missouri and campaigned for Akins opponent Sara Steelman. Somehow I dont see him giving in because of Palin knowing she campaigned for Steelman. I can see him using Palin as a reason to stay in the race!

John_Frank
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John_Frank

Oh please, that is nonsense talk.

carmtom13
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carmtom13

Don’t know how true this is, I herd Akin may still step aside. He said he would only get out if the GOP central committee appoints a grass roots conservative and not GOP establishment candidate Bruner. Perhaps Governor Palin got through to him with what she said on Greta’s show last night. Governor Palin sure was on fire last night on Greta’s show. She told Akin in plain English that he will lose and how important winning this seat is.

Fried
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Fried

There is no way Brunenr could run against him. Akin has to know that by MO law Brunner could not run as a write in or a 3rd party. I cant imagine him making that statement unless he is also ignorant of Missouri’s laws.

Timothy Jacques
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Timothy Jacques

William Kristol chimes in (Honey vs Vinegar)
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/advice-regarding-akin_650476.html

maketcomp
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maketcomp

Ok I am now convinced that this is just plain wrong. I went on Todd Akin website and read his biography and found some very interesting facts about him, his family, and his time in congress. First as a member of Congress for 12 years he is on the science, budget, and armed forces committees. Moreover, he is the only congressman who voted against “no child left behind.” He is the father of 6 children 1 is a graduated from a Baptist college, 3 boys graduated from the Naval Academy, 1 daughter currently attends Hillsdale College, and 1 daughter in high school. He is a hunter and a devoted Christian and a devoutly pro-life. I have heard a parade of people tell this man to get out of a race that he won fair and square even with the democrats voting for him. Moreover, with Akin’s Christian beliefs and position… Read more »

nibblesyble
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nibblesyble

I don’t like the pile-up or gang-up on him either. He is a Godly man and had made a huge error. I hate this whole thing, and I appreciate the time you took to read up on him rather than quickly react. Sigh…what a bloody mess eh? Thanks for the excellent post.

Laurel
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Laurel

I sincerely believe that he did indeed misspeak but that isn’t the point is it? The point is he has become a liability. Now the left and possibly a lot on the right could over reach and make him a sympathetic candidate and the way things look now it is entirely possible.

My question is if he by some miracle wins how will the GOP treat him? And Rush hasn’t piled on at all. He actually defended him and said he wouldn’t call for him to drop. He also said he doesn’t feel comfortable with telling anyone when to quit. Be careful you don’t become guilty of what you accuse or dislike.

Akin on his worst day is still better than McCaskill on her best day. she is one of the most deceitful people in Congress.

maketcomp
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maketcomp

Laurel, Rush has piled on by saying that the man is only associating with people who think like him! Todd Akin is an engineer and he is also on the science committee. I don’t think that’s hanging out with people who just think like him. And that tells me what Rush thinks about people who are not RINOs. Look I have always respected Rush, Mark, and Michelle but all three are so far off base on this. And because they donot understand the science behind what Akin said then so many are ignorant because we do trust these people. This is very troubling.

SaraPFan
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SaraPFan

I like this statement: “The point is he has become a liability.” He has asked for forgiveness. He has admitted he misspoke but clearly he has become the focus of the 2012 Congressional election. This election is to important to have him as a poster boy.

John_Frank
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John_Frank

If Akin stays in the race, his opponent will run ad after ad repeating what he said that lead to the uproar and then cut to one of the Republican US Senators from Missouri who called upon him to withdraw, play that person’s statement and then ask the obvious question.

Do people honestly believe he can overcome that? The best course? To step aside.

Fried
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Fried

Market: Im from MO and that’s not the feeling here. We feel the Dems voted for him to skew the election. You should have heard some of McCaskills commercials against Akin. She wanted him to be her running mate. I dont remember hearing one commercial of hers against Steelman or Brunner. There is talk that Dems contributed to his campaign, even before the primaries this was floating around.

pmb88
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pmb88

I wonder how Akin is going to get the money to maintain the campaign if the RNC and many other groups are not supporting him.

Timothy Jacques
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Timothy Jacques

logistics, logistics, logistics….

Fried
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Fried

He probably thinks he can force the RNC to back him when they realize there is no one else but him vs. McCaskill.

Libertyship46
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Libertyship46

This is probably why Akin stayed in the race. He probably figured that it was too late for a third party nominee to get into the race and that the other primary challengers were not allowed to run under the Missouri law. But if Akin pulled out and was replaced by the party by someone like John Ashcroft, that would be a different story. Akin is turning into a selfish, egotistical, fool who is willing to see the entire Senate fall to the Democrats rather than do the right thing and get out. It will be a bitter loss.

Fried
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Fried

Dont think Ashcroft could do it. He’s old and not what the hipsters in KC and St. Louis are looking for.

kong1967
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kong1967

I like the “sore loser” law. I’ve never heard of it until….ummmm…..now, but from what I gather if you lose the primary you cannot run on a third party ticket. It prevents a-holes from losing and then knocking the primary winner out of a chance to win by splitting the vote on a third party ticket. If you are going to run third party, you should start there.

lilium479
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lilium479

Sarah should run as write in!

Valerie
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Valerie

Palin’s arrogance is showing, both here and in the Hillary-as-VP thing (it’s not out of the question until Charlotte…). She’d be better served by sticking to her inspirational speeches.

stevenbiot
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stevenbiot

Eloquently said.

John_Frank
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John_Frank

Right. I guess some folks who purport to be Akin supporters are looking forward to him being known from now on as Akin the stupid rape guy.

Well done. /sarc

John_Frank
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John_Frank

Right. Talk about silly.

How does Akin win with little money and limited support, while attacking the de-facto leader of the party?

All McCaskill has to do from now until election day is run ads of Republicans telling Akin to get out of the race.

kong1967
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kong1967

You got it. He’s not going to win because conservatives won’t back him now. I think he had until 5 p.m yesterday to drop out and I haven’t heard if he did or not. I doubt it.

John_Frank
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John_Frank

He did not, although he can still withdraw up until September 25 with the Mo Supreme Court’s approval, providing he undertakes to pay the cost of re-printing the ballots.

kong1967
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kong1967

Eh, I doubt that will happen. He’s not going to get any funding so I don’t know what he was thinking by not dropping out.

jwallin
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jwallin

And by running a third candidate INSURE that McCaskill wins.

Are folks so afraid of the liberal press that they will throw anyone overboard who misspeaks and arouses their ire?

Are Republicans so enmeshed in the Progressives game that they are willing to trash one of their own because they failed to adhere to PROGRESSIVE ORTHODOXY?

What Akins said was dumb but trying to force him out and now trying to run against him is just insane. Ever heard of cutting off one’s nose to spite one’s face? This is what you all are doing.

Good luck with that WINNING strategy.

John_Frank
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John_Frank

So, tell us all how Akin wins? Limited money. Limited support. Attacks the de-facto leader of the party. McCaskill running ads from now until election day showing Republican after Republican calling Akin every name under the book and telling him to get out of the face. The third party idea was just a suggestion, put forward as one possible solution in the event that Akin refuses to petition the court for permission to withdraw from the race, upon his confirming that he will pay for the cost of printing the new ballots. Those who think that Akin can win are just as delusional as he was when he made his comment about “legitimate rape.” Sarah Palin provided him with an option. Is he prepared to do what is best not only for America but also for himself, or does he forever want to be known as Akin the stupid rape… Read more »

Donald Franck
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Donald Franck

Palin did not offer anything at all. You can not file for an independant spot on the ticket anymore. Either she was ignorant of this … or she knew it and then decided to make this noise, knowing full well it was an empty threat.

Timothy Jacques
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Timothy Jacques

Being from the state, I understand her “noise” and share in the frustration.

This state was so EASILY WINABLE until Akin opened his yapper like a hillbilly doffus. Now, with the money going and the negatives rising, all that’s left is for Akin to commit seppuku with a spork!!!!

McCasklill is ordering new shades for her senatorial office.

anyonebutbarry2012
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anyonebutbarry2012

she said someone LIKE steelman. she did not say steelman.
a third party run of sarah steelmens’ I could get behind. is what she said.

she offered no specifics, go listen to the tape.

Fried
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Fried

But by MO law Steelman cannot run, even as 3rd party. She placed THIRD in this primary behind John Brunner, even after Palin coming to Missouri to campaign for Steelman. And, she was defeated once before in another primary. John Brunner would have been our person if Akins had dropped out by the deadline day before yesterday.

StrangernFiction
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StrangernFiction

I’m going to laugh if that third candidate becomes CINO Jim Talent.

Donald Franck
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Donald Franck

Actually what progressives were fighting is EXACTLY what you are talking about:

“One main goal of the Progressive movement was purification of government, as Progressives tried to eliminate corruption by exposing and undercutting political machines and bosses. Many (but not all) Progressives supported prohibition in order to destroy the political power of local bosses based in saloons.”

The “political machine” of the Republican party is trying to railroad this conservative republican out of the race. This is what the progressive movement was trying to end.

Fried
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Fried

And, that is probably why he stayed in. He wasnt gonna let the Republicans push him out. That coupled with his strong pro-life feelings.

nuffsaid
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nuffsaid

Be a hero Todd. Take one for the team. The team needs this more than any one man. Palin is just the best. We are so lucky to have her and I pray for her continued health.

Reckoner_3
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Reckoner_3

Shame on Senate Candidate Akin AKA Republican Whoopi Goldberg “it wasn’t rape rape” —

what a joke and waste of 48 hours of News punditry…. Sarah is pissed in the video, (must have been listening to Mark too! lol …. )

Let’s get back to Ryan and Romney campaign stops already!

Anyway, the GOP convention will make us forget this nonsense, can’t control an individual’s misguided decisions. I don’t know why the GOP are wasting stress levels , over things they can’t completely control.

We asked the guy to drop out, he didn’t. Waste of time to bicker about it and waste talk radio air waves discussing it.

PhillyCon
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PhillyCon

Reck:
Not to mention, RINO’s in the party now are using this guy to disparage social conservatives. The guy has no clue what he’s done to pro-lifers.

Reckoner_3
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Reckoner_3

Agree he is clueless

Both Palin and Santorum, answered the “extremist” pro life position question competently.

RINO’s in the party now are using this guy to disparage social conservatives. The guy has no clue what he’s done to pro-lifers.

They’ll take the opportunities to do so whenever they can.

Rachel
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Rachel

Does anyone remember how close to the NJ election (a few years ago) that Torricelli was forced to withdraw (because of corruption charges) and they replaced him with Frank Lautenberg who they had to pull out of mothballs to take his place in the election (and he won). It was pretty close to the election from what I recall.

Thomas Holbrook II
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Thomas Holbrook II

There’s always Jonathon Dine. He’s a third party candidate. wink

John_Frank
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John_Frank

Ah yes, the Libertarian candidate who has a conviction for drug possession and identity theft on his record.

Yes, we all make mistakes, but something tells me that he is not a realistic option.

Rachel
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Rachel

Sarah sounds pissed…and I don’t blame her. It’s not his gaffe that’s unforgiveable..those were only words. But they are words the Left will smear him with all day and night. Everyone knows he can no longer win but HIM! This guy is putting himself before the country and there is NO excuse for that. And as far as “principles”….how could he champion his pro-life principles if he can’t WIN? He should be ASHAMED on himself.

MiBones
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MiBones

This should be the end of it. Everyone has analyzed Akin and his statement. Hopefully, we can agree with Sarah to this extant, that it is time to move on. We need to figure out our strategy for MO and the rest of the election season.

John_Frank
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John_Frank

RS, thanks for posting the video. Appreciate it. Very strong interview.

Chris
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Chris

Yes, RS. You are making it easy for me to keep up.
Thanks for your hard work.

MaxineCA
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MaxineCA

I’ve been following the string of comments on Akin all day and watched Sarah when she was on Greta this evening. This is yesterdays news, and it is up to the good folks of MO to decide what to do….. not those of us that do not reside there.

As a side note: Many of us on Scoop love Sarah, but it doesn’t mean everyone has to agree 100% of the time with her opinions. So, don’t be so harsh if someone disagrees with her. OK?

I sure hope everyone has gotten out their anger, frustration or whatever by expressing their view point on the Akin topic. Now, can we please move along and be focused on the BIG issues?

John_Frank
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John_Frank

It is not just up to the voters of Mo.

If McCaskill wins, and we end up with the Democrats controlling the Senate, we can forget about repealing Obamacare, among other things.

To govern effectively, Republicans need to keep the House and win control of the Senate, as well as the WH.

What Akin and his supporters are doing has national implications.

MaxineCA
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MaxineCA

John, I am well aware of the national implications, so please don’t insult my intelligence. I’ve moved along, and will trust in the people of MO to do the right thing, whatever is allowed in the guidelines of their election laws.

So yes, it is up to the voters of MO.

John_Frank
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John_Frank

Not insulting anyone’s intelligence. Just pointing out a reality. Glad we agree on that point.

Understand the desire to move on.

P.S. Late yesterday afternoon Akin lashed out at Romney, claiming that “Romney’s exploiting my situation for political gain” during an interview with Sean Hannity.

People can listen to the full interview here:
http://soundcloud.com/producermatthew/rep-akin-gives-second

That statement may tip the balance with people like Huckabee and others.

MaxineCA
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MaxineCA

Thanks for the link, although I hesitated to listen to another word out of Akin’s mouth, I tried…. but didn’t get too far into it. I really don’t want to hear another word about it. I sure hope the good folks of MO can find a way within their election laws to clean up the mess he has created. Otherwise, it’s going to be him or McCaskill. What a horrible choice!

John_Frank
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John_Frank

Don’t blame you. Cheers.

Fried
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Fried

Maxine and John: Im from MO, and Im not sure there is a way out of this. Everyone is throwing around Steelman to replace him but its too late by law for that to happen. According to our laws she cant get in the race now. And, besides she came in third in this primary so she’s not a favorite to begin with. Im afraid we are stuck with him against her. Frankly I see no way to get a write in candidate in there to get enough exposure to get elected unless he/she is a huge name to begin with. Someone up above suggested David Limbaugh — now he might be a good option. He pro-life and a tough guy and not afraid of any talking points.

John_Frank
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John_Frank

Sarah Palin put forward a possible solution, that Akin withdraw and support Steelman to take his place on the ballot. Like it or not, given what transpired before Sarah Palin went on Van Susteren’s show, Akin had defeated himself. He could have saved this situation if he had immediately issued a statement on Sunday saying that what he said was wrong and then apologized. Unfortunately, he did not come forward with a full and complete apology until the release of the Forgiveness ad on Tuesday. Yes, on Monday he apologized on the Huckabee show, but then went on to talk about forcible rape. In response to the firestorm that had developed: – The NRSC withdrew its support – Crossroads withdrew their support – Minority leader Senator McConnell urged him to withdraw, – Senator Roy Blunt along with four former US Senators from Missouri called upon him to withdraw from the… Read more »

Donald Franck
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Donald Franck

Wouldn’t republicans need to win a super majority to repeal it? Would the democrats not try and break the new filibuster record set by the republicans and filibuster the repeal about 200 times?

Timothy Jacques
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Timothy Jacques

Donald, Obamacare was passed via budget reconciliation (only needs 51 votes to pass). Supreme Court said Obamacare was a “tax” so it can be reconciled out. If the GOP has 51 votes in the senate (technically 50…. VP can break a tie) the Dems can’t filibuster it.

In the house, they just need a simple majority. Then it’s off of the President for signing.

To repeal, the GOP needs POTUS, Senate and House.

Ted David
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Ted David

What does Faux News have a locked down camera in Wasilla to capture every half assed synapse this dummy has?

ProudAmerican247
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ProudAmerican247

“synapse”? Learn how to spell dummy.

jwallin
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jwallin

Perhaps you meant; “learn how to read a dictionary and how to write” as the word synapse is spelled correctly.

Whenever you’re about to make a grammar correction, it’s always best to double check your comment for similar errors.

Fried
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Fried

With her being one of their paid political consultants I guess that would make sense for them to have cameras on her….By the way, she has her own private studio on her property.

Paula4Palin
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Paula4Palin

You know it’s a great idea when THREE trolls show up. They don’t want anyone to pee on parade!

Paula4Palin
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Paula4Palin

Make that FOUR trolls!!! lol

rod hillen
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rod hillen

Split the vote, Sarah! She’s so smart. Everyday I thank God for having her help elect Obama.

John_Frank
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John_Frank

Hate to break it to people, no VP nominee in recent times made voters more likely to vote for his or her ticket than Palin according to NBC/WSJ http://t.co/mziS87fx

Rachel
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Rachel

Sarah is the ONLY reason McCain did as well as he did. He was no favorite with Republicans. Most of us can’t stand him and didn’t get engaged in the 2008 election UNTIL he chose Sarah. Sarah’s great.

Timothy Jacques
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Timothy Jacques

vote is already split….by Akin’s mouth

Doug Soon
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Doug Soon

Sarah Palin goin’ round and round saying Todd Akin should step back and not contest Senate seat. Greta kept telling her over and over that Akin decided NOT to step back.

Sarah Palin is batshit crazy.

John_Frank
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John_Frank

Ah yes. Another individual who has no rational thoughts and is exhibiting classic PDS.

Brian Skinner
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Brian Skinner

We need David Limbaugh to run. He would kick Mcaskills butt and I think his brother might be able to help him raise a little money.

Rachel
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Rachel

Is he from Missouri??

Fried
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Fried

Yes he is. Born and raised in Cape Girardeau, MO, same as Rush, and he is a practicing attorney there as well. Brian: thats an excellent idea. David is not afraid to stand up.

Jose
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Jose

why not recruit Dana Loesch to run?

Paula4Palin
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Paula4Palin

This will be Palin’s finest hour if she can pull this off!!

Art Telles
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Art Telles

Republicans hang Akin out to dry… Exclusive: Joseph Farah defends stumbling congressman in face of GOP outrage – >> http://www.wnd.com/2012/08/republicans-hang-akin-out-to-dry/#comment-625445167 ” I’m not surprised at all that the media and the Democratic Party refuse to let the matter go. “What is more disappointing is that the Republican establishment immediately dropped Akin like yesterday’s mashed potatoes … .” – – – – – – – – – – Akin said one word in one sentence on one day… … and now the GOPe and TEA party and, it seems, ALL of the BIG Talkers on radio and tv are ALL throwing conservative Akin under the bus. Why? Akin, as Levin said, a good guy, comes up with a lemon statement, and instead of making lemonade, Akin is chastised. What a waste of an EXCELLENT lemon… the BABY is the point … NOT the rapist … NOT the word ‘legitimate’ … NOT… Read more »

John_Frank
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John_Frank

With all due respect, Akin can’t win. He needs to step aside.

P.S. Male social conservatives need to stop telling women what to do with their bodies. John Willke’s ideas about rape and pregnancy are junk science.

Art Telles
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Art Telles

With all due respect…

Akin definitely can win.

Akin did not ‘do’ anything wrong.
Akin did not ‘say’ anything wrong.

Akin mispoke with one word in one sentence on one day.

Akin does not have a history of doing or saying dumb things.

Akin made a lemon statement one time… so now he’s dumber than Biden?

No.

Akin can win.

Art

KenInIL
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KenInIL

Akin is still a party putz!

Art Telles
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Art Telles

Akin is not a party putz… Akin made only 1 statement in only 1 sentence on only 1 day. Akin does NOT have a history of being a putz. The lemmings of the GOPe and the TEA party and the BIG Talkers on radio and tv are not persuasive in throwing Akin under the bus. Sean Hannity, in his interview with Akin today, Tuesday, was NOT persuasive as he tried to tell Akin what to do even though he said he was not telling Akin what to do. NONE of the BIG Talkers on radio and tv have been persuasive against Akin. Akin can turn this lemon statement into EXCELLENT lemonade and pucker the lips of the Democrats about the BABY vs. the rapist… … THIS is the context of his comment. Where are the ‘thoughtr leaders’ on this? They ALL trying to throw Akin under the bus. What a… Read more »

KenInIL
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KenInIL

But barely two weeks into the general-election campaign, Akin committed a series of gaffes:
He called a McCaskill campaign website attacking his record accurate,
Admitted not knowing what was in a farm bill important to his state (in a farm state!!! — on a bill he voted for! We need our legislators to “READ THE BILL”)
Suggested reconsideration of civil-rights laws ,
Called a federal school-lunch program unconstitutional.

Akin’s recent statement that “legitimate rape” rarely causes pregnancy, was really stupid — the MD that told him that was talking about ducks!
http://www.mediaite.com/online/its-true-we-doctors-have-been-giving-republican-congressmen-false-information-as-a-joke/

Art Telles
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Art Telles

Ah…

So now Akin is just dumb.

Ok.

Art

Rightstuff1
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Rightstuff1

Art when you ask what has he done and someone holds up a list and says “errrr, how about all this…..!” You cannot then say, well, pouty, pouty, its not fair…you, you went and did what I said….

Excuse me but you are pulling an Akin minus the apology.

John_Frank
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John_Frank

So people are okay with Akin saying in essence that Romney’s exploiting my situation for political gain. The whole interview with Akin can be found here: http://soundcloud.com/producermatthew/rep-akin-gives-second According to Mediate, the relevant statement reads: Hannity asked Akin, given the number of prominent Republican politicians asking Akin to drop out including Romney, if he is even pausing to consider leaving the Senate race in Missouri. “Let me ask you this,” Akin began. “If you were in Romney’s position, don’t you think that he may have bid this thing up and made a bigger deal about it than he needed to?” “Why couldn’t he run his race and I run mine,” asked Akin. “If things really look like they’re getting in trouble in Missouri then maybe — but he has just assumed.” http://www.mediaite.com/online/akin-tells-hannity-that-romney-exploited-rape-statement-controversy-for-political-gain/ Are Akin’s supporters now suggesting that we get behind an individual who has not only insulted millions of Americans,… Read more »

Fried
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Fried

Steelman cannot run. MO Law prohibits it. She could have been picked if he had backed out by the deadline yesterday. He has to get a court order now to get out but that still means Steelman cannot run. She came in THIRD in the primary anyway. Missourians dont want her.

John_Frank
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John_Frank

His statement about legitimate rape not making women pregnant was insulting and degrading to women in MO and across America and every time he talks about the issue, he makes the situation worse. On Huckabee’s radio show he said he meant to say forcible rape. Well hello, it does not matter. The idea that if a woman is forcible raped she will not become pregnant as pushed by John Willke, M.D. is junk science and is not supported by the data. Then on Dana Loesch’s radio show he reverses himself and says that when he said legitimate rape, he meant when the woman is not falsely claiming rape to get an abortion such as the case in Roe v. Wade. Sorry, but the reality is that: – He actually believes if a woman is forcibly raped there is little likelihood of her becoming pregnant, basing that belief on the incorrect… Read more »

Art Telles
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Art Telles

His statement was medically wrong but it was NOT insulting and degrading to women.

That is a meme that is being pushed but it is without substance.

Without ‘substance’ means that Akin has an honorable history about the right to life and the primacy of the child… not the rapist.

His statement was made 1 time in 1 sentence on 1 day… period.

To whatever degree Akin is wrong about the science of pregnancy by rape or otherwise, his honorable history refutes the meme that he has a history of insulting and degrading women.

That is just silly.

Art

Rightstuff1
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Rightstuff1

Art come on – “legitimate rape” ??!!! If Obama had said that or any other Dem we would be calling for their heads, apology or no, and you would too and you would be right to do so.

We are Conservatives and we have morals. We cannot be like the left – we cannot run with the hare and hunt with the hound.

John_Frank
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John_Frank

Right, that’s why so many conservative women are absolutely livid with what Akin said. It was not just one word in one sentence. It has been a series of statements over a number of days. The fact that men like Akin think they can make statements like he did which are patently wrong, then claim he misspoke, then claim when he said “legitimate rape” he meant “forcible rape” and then claim when he said “legitimate rape” he meant a rape were the claim is not false and not face a firestorm of protest is mind boggling. Akin has done serious damage to himself. Instead of doing the honorable thing and stepping aside, he and his supporters now believe that they are involved in a “cause.” Great, because if Akin stays in, not only will McCaskill most likely defeat him, but as long as he stays in the race his “statements”… Read more »

Reckoner_3
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Reckoner_3

This won’t affect the general race, it’s a bottom ticket in the state of Missouri. THe GOP has done a good job at, and it’s a little thin, the only voters “convinced” by that route are the ones who are staunch pro-choicers to begin with….we are lucky this is in August and not in October. IT will matter as much as Bill Ayers mattered in October, very little…

John_Frank
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John_Frank

Ah …. I believe you are wrong.

Why did a number of Republicans involved in hotly contested Senate races feel compelled to come out and publicly condemn Akin?

This is a national election. One of the key demographics is the suburban women’s vote.

Having pushed the “war on women” meme, the Democrats are now working over time to tar the Republican ticket with Akin’s view point that “forcible rape does not result in a women becoming pregnant. ”

The latest example:

Pro-Life Doctor John Willke, Linked To Akin’s ‘Forcible Rape’ Claims, Endorsed Romney In 2007
During his 2008 presidential campaign, Mitt Romney welcomed the endorsement of a pro-life doctor linked to Rep. Todd Akin’s widely condemned statement that “legitimate rape” rarely leads to pregnancy.
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/2012/08/pro-life-doctor-john-willke-linked-to-akins-forcible-rape-claims-endorsed-romn

As long as Akin stays in the race, he will continue to be the gift that keeps on giving for the Democrats.

Reckoner_3
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Reckoner_3

No I’m not wrong, because politics can turn on a dime…

We’ll see when the polls come out next week. this can overall be seen as just another “tax diversionary tactic”

Obama doesn’t want to talk about abortion, especially when liberals know Romney is suspect on the pro-life position/ aka status quo.

Fried
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Fried

They will use it no matter if Akin is in the race or not. If he gets out and the committee appoints another pro-life conservative, this will the first thing they bring up to that appointee in any debate or interview. His pro-life position will be questioned with Akin’s comments as the weathervane. We are stuck with this meme for the rest of the election, Akins or not.

jwallin
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jwallin

And the question really is: how conservative are all these folks that want to pitch Akin overboard?

Seems to me that they’re playing by a Democrat guided playbook and that’s a losing proposition.

The Republicans consistently play by the Democrats rules and fold whenever challenged.

Way to go all you brave “Pro Lifers” (but only when it’s not controversial. or if the Democrats get upset. Or the newsies make a big deal out of it)

McCain lost in ’08 because of that attitude. He couldn’t bring himself to face the uproar if he treated Barry just like any other opposition candidate and ignore his being Black.

Republicans; no guts no glory.

Wannabe Democrat lite.

Amy
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Amy

Oh do, please, explain to me how I’m playing by a democrat guided playbook when I apply standards to holding elected office and expect intelligent & well-prepared people be elected to Congress? Last I checked they had no standards – other than that of checking your conscience at the door and the willingness to have no standards. Sheila Jackson Lee, Cynthia McKinney, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, Anthony Weiner, Jessie Jackson, Jr., et al. – the list of people with no morals and no guiding principles is long and undistinguished… Just go along to get ahead & the ends justify the means are the democrats SOP. Apparently, it’s our now too? FWIW – I’m pro-life with no exceptions so in that aspect I’m in complete agreement with Akin’s abortion stand. I just question his intelligence and willingness to believe something that only one doctor peddled as facts. Makes me… Read more »

Fried
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Fried

Amy I heard a caller on a Missouri radio talk show day before yesterday who was raped 20 years ago. She said her doctor told her this same information, that during rape the woman’s body reacts to trauma in such a way as to try to prevent a pregnancy. That certain reactions and chemical changes occurred that COULD prevent pregnancy. They gave her the morning after pill even that many years ago just in case though. I had my own infertility specialist talk to me about stress and how it could affect my chances of getting pregnant about 17 years ago as well. So, apparently these thoughts were standard viable medical opinions at one time not too long ago. His mistake was not knowing that these opinions had changed in some circles, but I bet if you talked to many doctors over teh age of say 55-60 they would tell… Read more »

Fried
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Fried

John, as a woman, let me tell you this if you dont already understand it. There are women out there who would claim rape when they werent rape. There are women that would claim so after they had a fight with their boyfriend, or after their married lover told her he was going back to his wife. There are 14 year olds who slip out with their 20 year old boyfriends and end up pregnant and they tell their daddy that said boyfriend raped them to keep daddy from being mad at them. People who realize this know this is what Akin meant when he said “legitimate”. He could have used a better word but I do believe he did not mean there were degrees of rape. I heard the man speak on Hannity the day he apologized. He was absolutely sincere that he had made a mistake and he… Read more »

Fried
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Fried

Did you miss his comments the next day stating on Hannity that he realized the literature he used to form the opinion of rare pregancy in rape was wrong? He admitted that what he read and believed was wrong and that he did not know it was wrong at the time of his comment. Do you know that some 15-20 years ago many physicians were using this same opinion? It was considered a viable medical opinion at one time. I heard a woman call into a talk show day before yesterday stating that her own physician told her the very same thing when she was raped 20 years ago. They gave her the morning after pill anyway, 20 years ago. I have to wonder why rape is used as a reason for abortion when Plan B/morning after pill is common practice in the past and now for rape victims and… Read more »

blackbird
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blackbird

It depends on the “one word”

here is what he said:

“It seems to me, first of all, from what I understand from doctors, that’s really rare. If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.”

I have to agree with the consensus, his chances of winning are not good.

Rachel
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Rachel

It wasn’t one wrong word….it was a kook concept! Women’s body can control whether they get pregnant or not if they are raped? That’s just silly. And I can easily forgive him his misconception….but the left never will. They will paint him as a crazy person who hates women. You know that’s what they live to do! And voters are stupid and will believe it. He can’t win. .

Fried
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Fried

Rachel: I heard a caller on a Missouri radio talk show day before yesterday who was raped 20 years ago. She said her doctor told her this same information, that during rape the woman’s body reacts to trauma in such a way as to try to prevent a pregnancy. That certain reactions and chemical changes occurred that COULD prevent pregnancy. They gave her the morning after pill even that many years ago just in case though. I had my own infertility specialist talk to me about stress and how it could affect my chances of getting pregnant about 17 years ago as well. So, apparently these thoughts were standard viable medical opinions at one time not too long ago. His mistake was not knowing that these opinions had changed in some circles, but I bet if you talked to many doctors over teh age of say 55-60 they would tell… Read more »

Rachel
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Rachel

Yes, Fried. I have come to learn that this was the popular thought in the 70’s. I was in college in the 70’s and never heard that theory, but apparently Akin was still under that misconception. Now he knows better. His debunked theory certainly didn’t deserve the kind of vitriol he’s getting. But you know the LEFT, they are a hateful and vicious lot who use anything to kick a Republican when he’s down. Then try to paint the entire party with their ugly brush. They are predators…the kind that go after the most vulnerable in the herd.

Timothy Jacques
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Timothy Jacques

logistics, logistics, logistics.

So far, Akin is 7.5 million in the hole as the big pacs and GOP Senate Election Committee (this will probably increase). No doubt he has lost ground. He’s lost 10 points and leads by one point (and that’s with a R+9 sampling).

good luck finding the money which has now being shut off

good luck repairing you image with the fence sitters

good luck now that the DNC smells blood and will be pumping in money for McCaskill!!!

Rachel
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Rachel

It doesn’t matter what he said or what he meant or that he apologized for the stupid thing he said…what matters is he can no longer WIN. There is no point for him to run…but he insists on running. For what? Is he delusional?

Fried
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Fried

So its down to him or McCaskill. SHould be press this Prebius fellow to let loose of the 5 million and fight for a win for the rest of us in Missouri? Shouldnt they use the money for us in the state who want to beat McCaskill no matter what it takes? He certainly wont step out now when he would have to go before a court that has 4 democrats and 2 Republicans to decide if he can drop out or not. If the dems have any power or say in it you know they wont allow him to get out. Why cant they just give us the funding and give us a chance at winning? What does it say about the Republicans turning their back on all the other Republicans in the state of MO?

Chris
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Chris

You’re wrong.

Donald Franck
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Donald Franck

yes, the baby is the point, and if the government has the right to impose an unwanted pregnancy on a woman without her permission.

You are saying the that the STATE controls a woman’s reproduction. Because the STATE can ORDER a female to carry UNWANTED pregnancies to term, AGAINST their will.

Welcome to Stalinist russia.

Men could go an a rape rampage having contests to see who could get the most females pregnant and the state could force those females to give birth…

if you can not see where this is a problem for a female’s right to reproduce then you have the problem.

GraceKnows
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GraceKnows

Good on you, Art.

Art Telles
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Art Telles

Dittos…

Thanks GraceKnows.

Good on you too.

Art

blackbird
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blackbird

if there is any one here who thinks that it’s an uphill battle to defeat “big money Claire” may I suggest a donation https://www.secureiws.com/sarahsteelman/make-a-difference/donate-v2

Fried
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Fried

Steelman cannot run. MO Law prohibits it. She came in THIRD in this primary. Why would she be able to win against McCaskill?

blackbird
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blackbird

This article sort of highlights why I think Steelman would have beaten McCaskill, Why Claire McCaskill wants Todd Akin to stay in Missouri race – http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2012/0821/Why-Claire-McCaskill-wants-Todd-Akin-to-stay-in-Missouri-race

but like you said she cannot run.

I would not be surprised to see Akin try and drop out, he has a lot of pressure on him, GOP Recasts Path to Senate Majority – Without Missouri – http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/08/23/gop_recasts_path_to_senate_majority_–_without_missouri_115186.html

stevenbiot
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stevenbiot

Just donate a couple bucks to the dude and remember he’s pro-life. That should get you cats over the follow the leader hump.

Paula4Palin
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Paula4Palin

stevenbiot has convinced me Sarah is right about this.

stevenbiot
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stevenbiot

Paula, I’ve been told by many that I’m extremely helpful. I swear I’m blushing.

carmtom13
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carmtom13

Why can’t the repub state committee appoint Steelman to run if Akin steps out? Does anyone know if this is possible? I thought Governor Palin was on fire tonight. Romney and Ryan should personally call her and ask her to speak, there is no one in the party who can get the people fired up like she can. I don’t believe a word Priebus said on Levins show about giving Governor Palin a prime time speaking spot and that there was a scheduling conflict. My message to Priebus: if BS was music you would be a brass band.

Chris
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Chris

That’s his job.

It’s glamorous to own or ride race horses.

But someone has to clean out the stalls… I like Priebus.

Fried
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Fried

Missouri has a law that prevents her from being able to do that. That is who Sarah would back because she campaigned for her during the primaries. But, by law Steelman is not elegible. Also, she has lost in another primary (2010? I think) and came in 3rd place in this one even after Palin’s campaigning for her, so Im not sure many Missourians would want her.

stevenbiot
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stevenbiot

Yeah, write in a no-name to defeat a well supported lib; that will ensure a win. How many people typing that nonsense have got behind the wheel tonight? Be careful; DWIs are a career ender.

Michael
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Michael

Steven you have no idea how that works…you do not just put any name you put a well known, well liked and well financed person. Steven you need to realize Akin has no cash…it is not coming from anyone…you do realize that yes? He is already low on cash and the GOP cut him off! Where will he get the money to continue??? He just lost over 5 million in funds…the GOP is not bringing it back…so how will he rise from his high teens/low 20s approval? Would you give 5 million to a losing cause. He is polling today in the mid to upper 30s at best….PPP gave him 43 percent with 9 percent repub skew..everyone panned it…there is no way Repub have 9 percent over Dems at best 3-4 percent…so figure that in and he is really at about 38 percent and that is without Claire unloading her… Read more »

Kimmy Kimkim
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Kimmy Kimkim

Any man that claims there are degrees of RAPE doesn’t deserve support.

Fried
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Fried

He didnt claim that. Have you heard the whole comment or read any transcripts? The trouble he got into was over the word “legitmate” rape, which most people understood he meant those who really were raped and not claiming to be raped after a fight with their boyfriend or after some parent found out there 14 year old daughter was sneaking out with a 20 year old man. The other mistake he made was using medical information used by doctors some 15-20 years ago. The position of physcians at one time was that in rape cases pregnancy was RARE because the woman’s body reacted to the trauma in such a way that helped to prevent a pregnancy – not in all cases, but in most cases (contractions of the uterus, chemicals relased by the body, etc). What people are missing is that the morning after pill has routinely been used… Read more »

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