Software behemoth telling gun retailers to stop selling AR-15s

A major software company called Salesforce.com is now telling gun retailers that use its software that they can’t sell AR-15 type rifles and keep doing business with them:

WAPO – On its website, Salesforce.com touts retailer Camping World as a leading customer of its business software, highlighting its use of products to help sales staff move product. A Camping World executive is even quoted calling Salesforce’s software “magic.”

But behind the scenes in recent weeks, the Silicon Valley tech giant has delivered a different message to gun-selling retailers such as Camping World: Stop selling military-style rifles, or stop using our software.

The pressure Salesforce is exerting on those retailers — barring them from using its technology to market products, manage customer service operations and fulfill orders — puts them in a difficult position. Camping World, for example, spends more than $1 million a year on Salesforce’s e-commerce software, according to one analyst estimate. Switching to another provider now could cost the company double that to migrate data, reconfigure systems and retrain employees.

Salesforce’s new policy bars customers that sell a range of firearms — including automatic and semiautomatic — from using its e-commerce technology. The policy also precludes customers from selling some firearm parts, such as “magazines capable of accepting more than 10 rounds” and “multi-burst trigger devices.”

The change affects “a small number of existing customers when their current contracts expire,” as well as all new customers, Salesforce spokeswoman Gina Sheibley said. She declined to name specific customers, but Camping World’s Gander Outdoor unit sells a variety of semiautomatic firearms and high-capacity magazines. Camping World executives didn’t respond to multiple requests for comment.



Good grief, gun-control SJWs are everywhere. This makes zero business sense.

If I were Camping World, I’d sue the heck out of Salesforce.com. They can’t be expected to just completely switch their software because Salesforce decided they don’t like AR-15s anymore. Especially when they are paying over a million dollars for this company’s services.

The alternative is to dump Salesforce.com. Companies do switch software platforms from time to time, but it’s typically a big deal and normally isn’t caused by idiocy like this. But hey, maybe one of Salesforce.com’s competitors can start to get a leg up…

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96 thoughts on “Software behemoth telling gun retailers to stop selling AR-15s

  1. Stupid move. There are alternatives to Salesforce and they will be jumping into the void.

    1. They are betting it is more difficult and expensive for the shops to switch software than to just stop selling those things. The shops stop selling and the Left wins a de facto ban.

  2. I didn’t know Barack Obama took a position on the board of directors of Salesforce. Sounds like some commie crap he would pull.

  3. I used Salesforce at my old company.

    It ain’t that great a software company. And if it was the best thing since sliced bread, I’d STILL dump them as a provider if they tried to dictate how I use my constitutional rights .

    1. @churchillis1 Hopefully a lot of companies do that and it kicks Salesforce in the nuts. It’s a really stupid move when businesses can go elsewhere. Salesforce can’t magically create new customers.

  4. Telling your customers what legal items they can and can’t sell after they’ve already integrated your software into their systems… I think Salesforce just gave a nitro boost to their competitors and may be opening themselves up to lawsuits for breach of contract.

  5. I am retired from selling enterprise software. I used SForce occasionally. They are not the only game in town for what they do. There are other options. So if a company is in the market for a CRM platform, then they can by another product.
    BUT… If a customer is paying a Million a year for their software, they are relying heavily on it. They have entire operations that depend entirely on that software. Threatening their existing customers that they won’t renew the annual subscription is flat out wrong.

  6. Camping World itself turned away my business (my wife and I are RV’ers) when the CEO declared that Trump supporters were not welcome in “his” stores. Fine with me, there are several local, and better, RV stores that I can patronize. Besides, Camping World is the Walmart of the RV world, pushing mostly Chinese goods with minimum-wage, low information clerks who seem to know NOTHING about RV’ing.

    It is silly moves like this that drive away business, to other more friendly companies. I will never understand why a company, which relies on public good will AND having quality products for its livelihood. Once a company gets involved in politics, especially today, it’s like they are telling half of America, “We don’t want your business.” To which my reply is always, “OK, fine with me, I’m going somewhere else.”

  7. …”multi-burst trigger devices.”

    Message to liberal morons; using a phrase like ^ this ^ only makes you sound more ignorant than previously presumed.

    You are obviously talking about “fully automatic firearms” and as much as this myth is prevalent in the dreams of liberal numbskulls like yourself, I assure you they’re NOT easily obtainable and NONE of your ‘clients’ are selling them.

    Perhaps you should research how the Federal Government restricts the sale of FULLY-automatic firearms. You might even be pleasantly surprised.

    Spoiler Alert; they’re NOT cheap to obtain nor selling at every corner Gun Store.

    1. Actually, it could be a reference to the pre-bump stock devices that accomplished the same effect as a bump stock…simulated full auto fire. The most famous of these was the Hellfire trigger system which was a spring device that clamped to the trigger guard of a semi auto rifle.

  8. Does Salesforce understand that door swings both ways? How would they like some special interest business that THEY do business with come in and tell them what they can do with their business? Salesforce, like any other business no matter the size is dependent on other vendors to do business. Yes, even software companies are dependent on outside vendors. Maybe if Camping World contacts them and let’s them know about the basically illegal extortion racket (because that’s what it actually is) that Salesforce is engaging in Salesforce can perhaps be made to face the fact that what is sauce for the goose is also sauce for the gander.

  9. Seems to me this is how they are going to destroy Conservatism. It seems one left wing company after another is using their power to keep the right from doing what they feel is right. Sign pro-life bills, we won’t bring work to your state, sell certain items we won’t give you credit. Next it will be if you have a gun we won’t allow you to live in certain neighborhoods. etc. Revelations comes to mind.

  10. The problem with submitting to an ultimatum is that it’s never a one off. The ultimatums will just keep coming because, why not? If you submit once you will submit again and again.

  11. It’s amazing how bold leftists are at trying to leverage anything they imagine to control others, or at least to signal self-styled virtue. They seldom think it through, and Salesforce is no exception here. They make their money from many companies that don’t want to offend customers who value their freedom to defend life & liberty. For example, Salesforce makes its money from:

    Yeti coolers, BRP (Can-am/Ski-Doo/Evinrude, etc.), Columbia Sportswear, Electronic Arts, Toyota, Penske, PetsMart, Kimberly Clark, Canon, T-Mobile, Hersheys, Adidas, AMEX, Deckers Shoes, and Marriott.

    We’ve seen how fast companies turn around when conservative customers wake up to political activism in the marketplace. Does Salesforce.com really want to fight this battle?

  12. For $1mm you can hire an in-house team of programmers to create your own solution. That’s crazy.

  13. Simply put that is illegal. You can not bar a client from using your product for selling another legal product. I suspect Camping World will be threatening them with legal action very soon.

    1. If only that were true for Hollywood and the MSM. The leader of the pack, DNC, looks like it’s in trouble though.

  14. Bakers who refuse to bake cakes for gay weddings because it goes against their religious beliefs falls under religious freedom in the Constitution…or I think it does.

    I don’t see how a software company can, using progressive logic, discriminate based on ideology, especially when owning guns is a Constitutional right.

    *Ha! I said progressive logic. I make myself laugh*

    1. to add -this is the true war on women since companies like salesforce wouldn’t want women to protect themselves with an accurate weapon such as the AR15.

  15. no see- here’s where an organized tea party could rally everyone who uses salesforce software together to send a message to salseforce that if they don’t stop with their bullying tactic/demands- they will stop doing business with them- if enough people and companies did this- it could result in a very effective process- (provided there are alternative software they could switch to)

  16. I don’t see how this is legal. It’s blackmail of sorts. The only influence one company should have on another is what is directly tied to the contract between the two.

  17. I think this would be an invitation to a breech of contract lawsuit. You can’t dictate terms once you have a signed contract. Salesforce could decide not to renew the contract (and why would any company want to renew with a company who’s essentially dealing in extortion?) But you can’t justify putting a halt to their software being used under contract selling items that are legal to sell. And they’re not the only game in town.

    And then there are companies using Salesforce who won’t want to be associated with a company that uses such tactics, even if they don’t sell guns.

  18. I think this would be an invitation to a breech of contract lawsuit. You can’t dictate terms once you have a signed contract. Salesforce could decide not to renew the contract (and why would any company want to renew with a company who’s essentially dealing in extortion?) But you can’t justify putting a halt to their software being used under contract selling items that are legal to sell. And they’re not the only game in town.

    And then there are companies using Salesforce who won’t want to be associated with a company that uses such tactics, even if they don’t sell guns.

  19. I looked at this issue in more detail. The characterized policy seemed to be sweeping in nature. Upon closer inspection, that does not appear to be the case.

    It was difficult to envision Salesforce.com’s being able to terminate the account of Camping World’s Gander Outdoor Unit or all of Camping World simply because Gander sells a given product or products. Barring the use of the Salesforce.com service to promote or sell a given product or class of products could be legally feasible. Attempts to bar a customer’s or partner’s promotion or sale of a given product or class of products outside Salesforce.com via depriving that company of the service would likely be unsustainable.

    Salesforce.com appears to be taking the narrowest path that has the best chance of being legally viable.

    Its Acceptable Use and External-Facing Services Policy states:

    Worldwide, customers may not use a Service to transact online sales of any of the following firearms and/or related accessories to private citizens. Firearms: automatic firearms; semi-automatic firearms that have the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any of the following: thumbhole stock, folding or telescoping stock, grenade launcher or flare launcher, flash or sound suppressor, forward pistol grip, pistol grip (in the case of a rifle) or second pistol grip (in the case of a pistol), barrel shroud; semi-automatic firearms with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds; ghost guns; 3D printed guns; firearms without serial numbers; .50 BMG rifles; firearms that use .50 BMG ammunition. Firearm Parts: magazines capable of accepting more than 10 rounds; flash or sound suppressors; multi-burst trigger devices; grenade or rocket launchers; 80% or unfinished lower receivers; blueprints for ghost guns; blueprints for 3D printed guns; barrel shrouds; thumbhole stocks; threaded barrels capable of accepting a flash suppressor or sound suppressor.

    https://c1.sfdcstatic.com/content/dam/web/en_us/www/documents/legal/Agreements/policies/ExternalFacing_Services_Policy.pdf

    In other words, Camping World and its Gander Outdoor Unit are not barred from selling any of their products. Salesforce.com only bars them selling firearms/related accessories using its site/services or over its platform.

    That’s much narrower than the quoted description in the article above, which states, “Salesforce’s new policy bars customers that sell a range of firearms — including automatic and semiautomatic — from using its e-commerce technology.” The policy bars use of the platform for such transactions. It does not bar use of the platform for companies that engage in such transactions off the platform.

    If Salesforce.com held a dominant market position, its ability to impose such restrictions over a legally-available product could still be limited. However, even as it is the world’s largest CRM provider, its market position is not dominant. According to Statista, the latest market share data (first half of 2018) showed that Salesforce.com had a 20.3% market share (worldwide). Oracle was second at 7.5%.

    Further, Camping World may face only very limited exposure to the policy. According to Camping World’s latest 10-K report, Gander Outdoor has 61 retail locations in addition to e-commerce. That report noted that Camping World had 5.1 million active customers (800,000 active customers for Gander Outdoor and Overton, which it acquired with Gander Outdoor). Dealership and retail locations are the primary ways in which Camping World attracts and retains customers.

    The 10-K has a discussion of firearms rules and regulations and the company’s compliance. It talks about retail outlets and planned outlets. However, it makes no mention of online firearms sales.

    All of this information suggests:

    1. Salesforce.com’s policy will likely have a minimal impact on Camping World
    2. Camping World’s firearms-related sales are likely overwhelmingly transacted at retail outlets, not online, meaning it has little or no exposure to the Salesforce.com policy.
    3. Were Salesforce.com to attempt to go beyond what was narrowly described in its Acceptable Use and External-Facing Services Policy, such an effort would probably be nonviable legally.
    4. Camping World has CRM alternatives available to it should it seek to pursue alternatives

  20. I looked at this issue in more detail. The characterized policy seemed to be sweeping in nature. Upon closer inspection, that does not appear to be the case.

    It was difficult to envision Salesforce.com’s being able to terminate the account of Camping World’s Gander Outdoor Unit or all of Camping World simply because Gander sells a given product or products. Barring the use of the Salesforce.com service to promote or sell a given product or class of products could be legally feasible. Attempts to bar a customer’s or partner’s promotion or sale of a given product or class of products outside Salesforce.com via depriving that company of the service would likely be unsustainable.

    Salesforce.com appears to be taking the narrowest path that has the best chance of being legally viable.

    Its Acceptable Use and External-Facing Services Policy states:

    Worldwide, customers may not use a Service to transact online sales of any of the following firearms and/or related accessories to private citizens. Firearms: automatic firearms; semi-automatic firearms that have the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any of the following: thumbhole stock, folding or telescoping stock, grenade launcher or flare launcher, flash or sound suppressor, forward pistol grip, pistol grip (in the case of a rifle) or second pistol grip (in the case of a pistol), barrel shroud; semi-automatic firearms with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds; ghost guns; 3D printed guns; firearms without serial numbers; .50 BMG rifles; firearms that use .50 BMG ammunition. Firearm Parts: magazines capable of accepting more than 10 rounds; flash or sound suppressors; multi-burst trigger devices; grenade or rocket launchers; 80% or unfinished lower receivers; blueprints for ghost guns; blueprints for 3D printed guns; barrel shrouds; thumbhole stocks; threaded barrels capable of accepting a flash suppressor or sound suppressor.

    https://c1.sfdcstatic.com/content/dam/web/en_us/www/documents/legal/Agreements/policies/ExternalFacing_Services_Policy.pdf

    In other words, Camping World and its Gander Outdoor Unit are not barred from selling any of their products. Salesforce.com only bars them selling firearms/related accessories using its site/services or over its platform.

    That’s much narrower than the quoted description in the article above, which states, “Salesforce’s new policy bars customers that sell a range of firearms — including automatic and semiautomatic — from using its e-commerce technology.” The policy bars use of the platform for such transactions. It does not bar use of the platform for companies that engage in such transactions off the platform.

    If Salesforce.com held a dominant market position, its ability to impose such restrictions over a legally-available product could still be limited. However, even as it is the world’s largest CRM provider, its market position is not dominant. According to Statista, the latest market share data (first half of 2018) showed that Salesforce.com had a 20.3% market share (worldwide). Oracle was second at 7.5%.

    Further, Camping World may face only very limited exposure to the policy. According to Camping World’s latest 10-K report, Gander Outdoor has 61 retail locations in addition to e-commerce. That report noted that Camping World had 5.1 million active customers (800,000 active customers for Gander Outdoor and Overton, which it acquired with Gander Outdoor). Dealership and retail locations are the primary ways in which Camping World attracts and retains customers.

    The 10-K has a discussion of firearms rules and regulations and the company’s compliance. It talks about retail outlets and planned outlets. However, it makes no mention of online firearms sales.

    All of this information suggests:

    1. Salesforce.com’s policy will likely have a minimal impact on Camping World
    2. Camping World’s firearms-related sales are likely overwhelmingly transacted at retail outlets, not online, meaning it has little or no exposure to the Salesforce.com policy.
    3. Were Salesforce.com to attempt to go beyond what was narrowly described in its Acceptable Use and External-Facing Services Policy, such an effort would probably be nonviable legally.
    4. Camping World has CRM alternatives available to it should it seek to pursue alternatives

  21. If they are successful with this we are going to see a whole lot more of it. Just like Dick’s Sporting got dicked, we need to do the same thing with Salesforce.

  22. If they are successful with this we are going to see a whole lot more of it. Just like Dick’s Sporting got dicked, we need to do the same thing with Salesforce.

  23. Well, I don’t know about anyone else, but all those years I played a lawyer on TV tells me that at best it’s an unenforceable demand, and at worst breach of contract.

    I’m guessing that there’s nothing in the sales agreement between Wokeforce and Camping Place that conditions the use of software on the sale of firearms. In fact, I’m so certain of this that I’ll bet all the money I have that the word “firearm” isn’t even in whatever contract exists between Workforce and Camping Place.

    So, Camping Place can really tell them to go take a flying leap.

    Now, let’s suppose Wokeforce decides to stop offering support for the software. Now that might be breach, based on the warranties and related contract terms.

    Still, it’d be a fun contract battle to watch.

    1. Also, this:

      Stop selling military-style rifles, or stop using our software.

      Is meaningless. Without a definition of “military-style rifles,” Camping Place can just as easily say “Yep, we did. We are selling no fully automatic rifles or mounted machine guns or grenade launchers or missiles of any kind. We still have the AR-15 though, which is a personal defense and sporting rifle.”

      And then tell them to go suck an egg.

  24. I am retired from selling enterprise software. I used SForce occasionally. They are not the only game in town for what they do. There are other options. So if a company is in the market for a CRM platform, then they can by another product.
    BUT… If a customer is paying a Million a year for their software, they are relying heavily on it. They have entire operations that depend entirely on that software. Threatening their existing customers that they won’t renew the annual subscription is flat out wrong.

  25. Camping World itself turned away my business (my wife and I are RV’ers) when the CEO declared that Trump supporters were not welcome in “his” stores. Fine with me, there are several local, and better, RV stores that I can patronize. Besides, Camping World is the Walmart of the RV world, pushing mostly Chinese goods with minimum-wage, low information clerks who seem to know NOTHING about RV’ing.

    It is silly moves like this that drive away business, to other more friendly companies. I will never understand why a company, which relies on public good will AND having quality products for its livelihood. Once a company gets involved in politics, especially today, it’s like they are telling half of America, “We don’t want your business.” To which my reply is always, “OK, fine with me, I’m going somewhere else.”

  26. Sounds like the work of a community organizer, convincing companies to do business following defacto, not actual laws.

  27. While we are still a capitalist and free nation, a competitor needs to step up and attract the businesses salesforce does not want. .

  28. …“multi-burst trigger devices.”

    Message to liberal morons; using a phrase like ^ this ^ only makes you sound more ignorant than previously presumed.

    You are obviously talking about “fully automatic firearms” and as much as this myth is prevalent in the dreams of liberal numbskulls like yourself, I assure you they’re NOT easily obtainable and NONE of your ‘clients’ are selling them.

    Perhaps you should research how the Federal Government restricts the sale of FULLY-automatic firearms. You might even be pleasantly surprised.

    Spoiler Alert; they’re NOT cheap to obtain nor selling at every corner Gun Store.

    1. Actually, it could be a reference to the pre-bump stock devices that accomplished the same effect as a bump stock…simulated full auto fire. The most famous of these was the Hellfire trigger system which was a spring device that clamped to the trigger guard of a semi auto rifle.

  29. Does Salesforce understand that door swings both ways? How would they like some special interest business that THEY do business with come in and tell them what they can do with their business? Salesforce, like any other business no matter the size is dependent on other vendors to do business. Yes, even software companies are dependent on outside vendors. Maybe if Camping World contacts them and let’s them know about the basically illegal extortion racket (because that’s what it actually is) that Salesforce is engaging in Salesforce can perhaps be made to face the fact that what is sauce for the goose is also sauce for the gander.

  30. Seems to me this is how they are going to destroy Conservatism. It seems one left wing company after another is using their power to keep the right from doing what they feel is right. Sign pro-life bills, we won’t bring work to your state, sell certain items we won’t give you credit. Next it will be if you have a gun we won’t allow you to live in certain neighborhoods. etc. Revelations comes to mind.

  31. Well, I don’t know about anyone else, but all those years I played a lawyer on TV tells me that at best it’s an unenforceable demand, and at worst breach of contract.

    I’m guessing that there’s nothing in the sales agreement between Wokeforce and Camping Place that conditions the use of software on the sale of firearms. In fact, I’m so certain of this that I’ll bet all the money I have that the word “firearm” isn’t even in whatever contract exists between Workforce and Camping Place.

    So, Camping Place can really tell them to go take a flying leap.

    Now, let’s suppose Wokeforce decides to stop offering support for the software. Now that might be breach, based on the warranties and related contract terms.

    Still, it’d be a fun contract battle to watch.

    1. Also, this:

      Stop selling military-style rifles, or stop using our software.

      Is meaningless. Without a definition of “military-style rifles,” Camping Place can just as easily say “Yep, we did. We are selling no fully automatic rifles or mounted machine guns or grenade launchers or missiles of any kind. We still have the AR-15 though, which is a personal defense and sporting rifle.”

      And then tell them to go suck an egg.

  32. The problem with the Rabid Left is that, well they’re rabid. They push and scream and harass companies into believing there’s way more of them then there really are, and the companies through cowardice and greed, capitulate. Meanwhile those of us on the Right are busy living our lives, supporting our families and usually don’t have time to respond in any meaningful way that gets attention.

  33. Sounds like the work of a community organizer, convincing companies to do business following defacto, not actual laws.

  34. While we are still a capitalist and free nation, a competitor needs to step up and attract the businesses salesforce does not want. .

  35. Stupid move. There are alternatives to Salesforce and they will be jumping into the void.

    1. They are betting it is more difficult and expensive for the shops to switch software than to just stop selling those things. The shops stop selling and the Left wins a de facto ban.

  36. And yet another group that over looks the fact that handguns kill way more people per year than AR-15s. And a good chunk of them are held illegally.

  37. How is this not blackmail? There are other software platforms that do what this putrid company does (maybe not as well or maybe differently, but…). You don’t see Microsoft or Apple pulling this sort of crap.

    If financially feasible, sue them or fire them.

    1. @muckjumper Exactly, they’re holding a paid for product hostage unless they get what they want.

  38. The problem with the Rabid Left is that, well they’re rabid. They push and scream and harass companies into believing there’s way more of them then there really are, and the companies through cowardice and greed, capitulate. Meanwhile those of us on the Right are busy living our lives, supporting our families and usually don’t have time to respond in any meaningful way that gets attention.

  39. I remember when folks would say, “wait until SJW’s get into the real world.” Well, they have. They aren’t getting the taste of real life like we all hoped. They’re changing it to fit their stupid ideology.

    1. If only that were true for Hollywood and the MSM. The leader of the pack, DNC, looks like it’s in trouble though.

  40. For $1mm you can hire an in-house team of programmers to create your own solution. That’s crazy.

  41. And yet another group that over looks the fact that handguns kill way more people per year than AR-15s. And a good chunk of them are held illegally.

  42. The problem with submitting to an ultimatum is that it’s never a one off. The ultimatums will just keep coming because, why not? If you submit once you will submit again and again.

  43. It’s amazing how bold leftists are at trying to leverage anything they imagine to control others, or at least to signal self-styled virtue. They seldom think it through, and Salesforce is no exception here. They make their money from many companies that don’t want to offend customers who value their freedom to defend life & liberty. For example, Salesforce makes its money from:

    Yeti coolers, BRP (Can-am/Ski-Doo/Evinrude, etc.), Columbia Sportswear, Electronic Arts, Toyota, Penske, PetsMart, Kimberly Clark, Canon, T-Mobile, Hersheys, Adidas, AMEX, Deckers Shoes, and Marriott.

    We’ve seen how fast companies turn around when conservative customers wake up to political activism in the marketplace. Does Salesforce.com really want to fight this battle?

  44. Simply put that is illegal. You can not bar a client from using your product for selling another legal product. I suspect Camping World will be threatening them with legal action very soon.

  45. Bakers who refuse to bake cakes for gay weddings because it goes against their religious beliefs falls under religious freedom in the Constitution…or I think it does.

    I don’t see how a software company can, using progressive logic, discriminate based on ideology, especially when owning guns is a Constitutional right.

    *Ha! I said progressive logic. I make myself laugh*

    1. to add -this is the true war on women since companies like salesforce wouldn’t want women to protect themselves with an accurate weapon such as the AR15.

  46. How is this not blackmail? There are other software platforms that do what this putrid company does (maybe not as well or maybe differently, but…). You don’t see Microsoft or Apple pulling this sort of crap.

    If financially feasible, sue them or fire them.

    1. @muckjumper Exactly, they’re holding a paid for product hostage unless they get what they want.

  47. I don’t see how this is legal. It’s blackmail of sorts. The only influence one company should have on another is what is directly tied to the contract between the two.

  48. no see- here’s where an organized tea party could rally everyone who uses salesforce software together to send a message to salseforce that if they don’t stop with their bullying tactic/demands- they will stop doing business with them- if enough people and companies did this- it could result in a very effective process- (provided there are alternative software they could switch to)

  49. I didn’t know Barack Obama took a position on the board of directors of Salesforce. Sounds like some commie crap he would pull.

    1. @landscaper Well, it’s not like our first gay president was the only Alinskyite in the world.

  50. I used Salesforce at my old company.

    It ain’t that great a software company. And if it was the best thing since sliced bread, I’d STILL dump them as a provider if they tried to dictate how I use my constitutional rights .

    1. @churchillis1 Hopefully a lot of companies do that and it kicks Salesforce in the nuts. It’s a really stupid move when businesses can go elsewhere. Salesforce can’t magically create new customers.

  51. I remember when folks would say, “wait until SJW’s get into the real world.” Well, they have. They aren’t getting the taste of real life like we all hoped. They’re changing it to fit their stupid ideology.

  52. Telling your customers what legal items they can and can’t sell after they’ve already integrated your software into their systems… I think Salesforce just gave a nitro boost to their competitors and may be opening themselves up to lawsuits for breach of contract.

  53. I hope the parent company for Gander Mountain sues them into oblivion, although I am not sure what legal basis they can use for doing so.

    This is as infuriating as when the Zero Administration threatened banks to stop providing financial services to pawn shops and firearms dealers. This is economic warfare to circumvent representative government and the legislative process. This is a malicious marginalization of a targeted community.

    Gun owners are the new minority elitists can feel comfortable attacking, belittling, and openly discriminating against. Maybe president Kamala Harris or Cory Booker dreams of the day they can put us in chains, march us in to gas chambers, and dispose of us in ovens.

    1. I agree with you wholeheartedly with one exception @txgrunner . Gun owners are not a “minority” in the USA.

    2. @txgrunner Gander! I knew that Camping World sounded familiar. Even though I don’t patronize either establishment, this is bad news for the law-abiding gun owners.

  54. Welcome to the USSA….it is not just guns….it is anything they want to control…tobacco for example!

    1. @sallyjohanna It’s funny, they try to stop people from using products that they have decided are bad, but then lose the tax money. In Illinois (and probably other states) they want to raise the registration fees for electric cars because they don’t pay gas taxes.

  55. I have no idea who salesforce.com is but would love to see their customers say screw you we support our customers right to purchase these guns and will find someone else to provide your services. Could be a good PR move if managed well.

  56. I hope the parent company for Gander Mountain sues them into oblivion, although I am not sure what legal basis they can use for doing so.

    This is as infuriating as when the Zero Administration threatened banks to stop providing financial services to pawn shops and firearms dealers. This is economic warfare to circumvent representative government and the legislative process. This is a malicious marginalization of a targeted community.

    Gun owners are the new minority elitists can feel comfortable attacking, belittling, and openly discriminating against. Maybe president Kamala Harris or Cory Booker dreams of the day they can put us in chains, march us in to gas chambers, and dispose of us in ovens.

    1. I agree with you wholeheartedly with one exception @txgrunner . Gun owners are not a “minority” in the USA.

  57. Welcome to the USSA….it is not just guns….it is anything they want to control…tobacco for example!

  58. I have no idea who salesforce.com is but would love to see their customers say screw you we support our customers right to purchase these guns and will find someone else to provide your services. Could be a good PR move if managed well.

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