Ted Cruz wants to work with Ocasio-Cortez again, this time on BIRTH CONTROL

Ted Cruz has indicated on Twitter that he wants to team up with Ocasio-Cortez again, this time on birth control. Just two weeks ago Cruz made headlines by offering to team up with AOC on a bill that would ban congress members from becoming lobbyists.

Today, he wants to make birth control available over the counter:



So far AOC hasn’t responded to his tweet from earlier today.

According to Yahoo News:

Under current law, birth control pills are regulated by the Food and Drug Administration and women are required to obtain a doctor’s prescription to obtain them.

Proponents of making birth control an over-the-counter medication say that women face higher costs from doctor’s visits and insurance copayments than they would if the pill were simply available without a prescription. On the other hand, insurance plans with drug coverage may cover birth control prescriptions, whereas over-the-counter drugs are usually paid for out of pocket.

We’ll see what happens with this going forward.

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PuritanD71
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This is an outrageous and serious problem.

First, there is no 100% guarantee that a pregnancy will not occur unless you refrain from intercourse (unless you were the virgin Mary who is so far the only exception to the rule). Second, let us not forget that most if not all birth control pills are abortifacients which essentially means that they do not prevent the fertilization of the egg but prevents the embryo from attaching itself to the uterine wall. Finally, as been mentioned, there are many side effects regarding the pill, including potential sterilization.

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Ted, thank you and please just agree to work with AOC more as it shuts her up each time you do!

ShantiGirl
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I don’t understand why people are fighting over abortion when birth control is the first step in solving the problem. Heck, I wouldn’t care if the government paid for everyone’s birth control pills and condoms. Then abortion wouldn’t be needed. Then if a woman becomes pregnant after being given birth control, she is not eligible for an abortion. Something like that…but birth control is the first issue that must be addressed.

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BUILD THE WALL.
ENFORCE OUR LAWS.
MAKE AMERICA SAFE.
DEFUND PLANNED PARENTHOOD.
STOP HARBORING ILLEGAL ALIENS.

Just a few of the items on my short list of things CONgress should be doing…birth control, doesn’t even make the top 1000 on my list.

russ
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This is beyond stupid first this website is obsessed with Ted Cruz second AOC needs to be destroyed we are at war with scumbags like this because they were at war with us

PNWShan
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I understand that Cruz is trying to reach across the aisle, but there are 434 other members of the House he could work with.

TD1
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yes, but it shuts her mouth when he does so I am happy

PNWShan
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grin

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I think Senator Cruz is trolling this airhead. Anything he says is a “poison pill” to both RATs and RINOs alike (both of whom should be forever referred to as “SKUNCs”) so he probably knows this will go nowhere.

“What?! Senator Cruz wants this? No way we’re voting for this!”

soleil
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I disagree with Ted………teenage girls will flood the counters
I’m old shool. Boys need to keep the zipper up and girls need to keep their legs crossed.

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Just virtue signaling on both sides. Nothing will come if it, which is unfortunate. Women who have access to birth control and understand how to effectively use birth control are much less likely to end up pregnant when they do not want to be pregnant. And this means they aren’t having abortions. Hundreds of thousands of abortions, per year.

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Why would Ted want too do this .There are enough side effects to Birth Control Pills that I expect you would want your doctor at your side and explain what those side effect are i.e.spotting,headaches, nausea Tenderness in the breast,weight gain,mood swings and many others.Come on Ted get rid of AOC and allow her to promote this bill herself.You should be more inclined to work with the President and some issues he might need you on.

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Probably because he has two daughters

bigsir74
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Might be Thor,but I do not see Ted nor his wife raising two Daughters that will not seek their advise about unsafe Sex or even sex before Marriage.

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There are worse side effects suffered by taking other OTC medication, that’s hardly a valid reason to keep this from happening.

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just my opinion Sean

Lillie Belle
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AvatarSean Not really. Side effects and possible dangers of BC are many and quite serious. You should do some research. Any woman that has taken or is taking BC pills can tell you. I tried taking them twice in my life and couldn’t handle them and used other methods.

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I agree with Cruz in almost everything, but as a pharmacist I have to disagree here. His heart is in the right place but I don’t think it would’ve wise to make birth control OTC. It actually really scares me to think about.

I think the concept is correct, however. As I’ve been thinking about this. Maybe putting birth control behind the counter but available similar to Sudafed. And a pharmacist could have a protocol with a physician on what the pharmacist should discuss with the patient, etc. More accessible but still monitored by a healthcare professional.

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PPH doesn’t want this, so no other Dems will sign on. Very likely the idiot bartender doesn’t know either and will recant saying it was a joke.

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Is anyone else seeing the ad for BC pills (“Delivered”) embedded in the story above? Too funny!!!

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Yep!

T_ump
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I’m glad the article isn’t about pornog . . . actually I don’t even want to type it, lest I trigger more ads.

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Still a bad idea, even if Ted Cruz is recommending it. Birth control pills aren’t expensive, but they can have some pretty severe side effects, and can affect your health in unexpected ways.

That’s not to say they’re especially dangerous, but not quite safe to sell over the counter to just anyone. They’re still best taken by prescription.

Of course, you could make them less dangerous by offering only a reduced dosage over the counter, but then you would have birth control pills that may not be effective, which only creates a false sense of security.

Not everything has a simple and neat answer.

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Are they more or less dangerous than Plan B which the FDA approved for the OTC market in 2013? I’m not being a smart arse here as I genuinely don’t know.

hubman
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I couldn’t say which is relatively more dangerous to the woman taking it. So much depends on the woman’s health and current hormones. There’s a lot of variation. Some women are extremely regular, and some have erratic cycles.

But I do know that doctors prescribing birth control pills will sometimes switch to a different pill due to health reasons. And yes, sometimes birth control pills can lead to headaches, and even to fatal blood clots.

Hormones are tricky stuff.

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I tend towards the libertarian argument that too many things are regulated. Not only birth control pills but drops for pinkeye, epi-pens, albuterol and many other drugs should be more easily available. If I’m foolish enough to try and abuse these than I deserve the ramifications. That is what I believe freedom means.

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I’d agree there are more things regulated than need to be. But medications are pretty dangerous, and even beneficial medicines can have nasty side effects or bad interactions with other drugs. Insisting that medications be taken under a doctor’s supervision is a good compromise. Especially since it’s not a prohibition of those drugs, but a requirement to get the opinion of an expert you choose for yourself. There’s a very good argument that even Tylenol shouldn’t be sold over the counter, because it can lead to liver damage. Most people don’t take even close to enough for that to be an issue, but there have been exceptions, and all because people mistakenly perceive it as completely safe. Ibuprofen is generally harmless, unless you overdose. But if it’s not taken with food, and over-used, it can be very hard on your stomach. Pepcid is an interesting case. It used to be… Read more »

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This is always the argument, but if you really believe that argument we should require a prescription for alcohol. I’m basically libertarian on this. Either we trust people and let them experience the consequences or we don’t. I’m for less government control, more individual freedom.

hubman
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Do you know all the available birth control pills and their relative risks? I certainly don’t. Do you think the nervous 14-year-old worried about becoming pregnant will know all about them?

Drugs sold over the counter carry an implicit promise of safety. People figure they couldn’t sell drugs over the counter if they were dangerous.

I don’t really think the prescription drug program impacts libertarianism, since you can choose the doctor who prescribes them. Except possibly in the case of recreational use of psychotropic drugs where no doctor will prescribe them unless you can show a need. But for most drugs, the motivation is just safety.

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Ya know since Plan B is OTC, I kinda assumed it all was.

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Smart Ted: this also takes out the religious component of health care providing for it… this is why the Dems won’t go for it.
They want it covered so access will be as wide as possible and the appearance of “women’s rights” are not being eroded.
AOC was too stupid to see the trap she set for herself when she thought she was being cunning.

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Not everyone has health insurance. Additionally, even if they do they may not want to use it. Teens do things behind their parents’ backs and if they’re going to do it I would rather they used protection and/or birth control than get pregnant and have an abortion.

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kong1967kong1967 That’s why condoms were invented.

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nc checks and balancesnc checks and balances That doesn’t matter. If they choose to use birth control that’s their choice. Condoms aren’t 100% effective.

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kong1967kong1967 No, but they aren’t potentially dangerous if unmonitored by a doctor.

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nc checks and balancesnc checks and balances I don’t know about that. I guess that’s a discussion that doctors need to have with legislators to determine the risks.

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Yeah, but the consequences of pregnancy fall too heavily to the women. They have a responsibility as well.

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Women can buy condoms, can’t they? oops

TD1
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AOCs parents were one condom too short.

Wudanar
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Would you say the same thing about someone committing a crime. Just because people do bad things does not mean we should make it easy for them or incentivize it. Pro-aborts use the same logic for making abortion a right.

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Wudanar First of all, teens having sex may be stupid but it is not a crime so that’s a really bad comparison. Second of all, there’s not a damn thing wrong with birth control unless you like a bunch of unintended babies running around….or even worse…abortions. It’s not incentivizing them. You can still forbid them from having sex and you aren’t saying “here’s birth control in case you ignore me”. But it would be nice for them to have the ability to take the initiative on their own to prevent unintended consequences. Analogy….if your house is near a cliff and you tell your teenage kids to stay away from it, would you refuse to put railing up and say “well, I told them to stay away from it so it’s their own fault they fell off the edge”? No, you’d put rails up because teens do ignore their parents.

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So far AOC hasn’t responded to his tweet from earlier today.

Democrats are collectivists (especially self-proclaimed “democratic socialists”). AOC won’t be able to handle the derision she’ll get from her own party for working with Ted Cruz.

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He has lost his mind, would he want Heidi buying a pill OTC without a proper medical exam ? Does he not know the side effects for these pills and importance of monitoring? PS Ted and AOC these pills cost very little per month not sure what you’re looking to do here, either of you, except kiss up to whatever base you have at this point.

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ruthiedoggiemomruthiedoggiemom Personally, I think Ted is playing Ms. Bug Eyes.

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Have to disagree with you here Lillie BelleLillie Belle I’m not liking much of where he stands lately.

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Some birth control cause cancer.

ruthiedoggiemom
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and blood clots, and strokes, and many other things Avatarjune2016

Wudanar
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And can cause issues later when couples do want to get pregnant. Who would have thought medication design to subvert God’s design would have consequences.

T_J
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Was not Birth control pills under $20 at Walmart, except one has to go to a doctor first for the prescription.

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The photo is a side by side shot of liberty and tyranny

Danaellen
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His potential running mate she ain’t.

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I’m not really too keen on “birth control”. It’s like a soft form of abortion in a manner of speaking – except in many cases, conception never occurs. In other cases, from what little I know, it is exactly a form of abortion. However, I and probably most of you have been the “beneficiaries” of some sort of birth control, so I might come across as a bit hypocritical.

I’m glad Ted is sparingly working with the other side on common goals but AOC is horrible and this isn’t really the best thing for him to partner up on imo.

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The one you gotta watch out for is RU-486. That one pretends to be birth control, but it’s a straight-up abortion pill.

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Thank you for that information. I thought there was one that sloughs off cells through the uterus or something. That still seems like murder to me.

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Has anyone passed of RU-486 as birth control? I always and consistently see that referred to in the context of medical abortions.

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Perhaps I’m mistaken, but i thought it was the medical name for the “morning after pill”.

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That’s different.

AT
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Anybody official? Probably not. But the activists love playing it that way. Some even go so far as to call abortion itself mere birth control.

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Could be… but even planned parenthood calls it the “abortion pill.”

AT
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Do they even use the A-word there? It’s always “procedure” and “terminate the pregnancy” and “prevent the birth” with them.

slantry
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Yeah, they do. And they actually use the A word pretty frequently…

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/abortion/the-abortion-pill

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I just hope Ted doesn’t get any of that on him. It’s a terrible new disease, like HIV; only AOC is far worse.

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The problem is most dems don’t want OTC birth control, which the user would pay for. They want FREE birth control. And get this, I asked a familial member what was the big deal was forcing companies to pay for birth control. She said, “Because they pay for Viagra.” Never mind that Viagra is a LOT more expensive and is used for other treatments besides ED. I knew right then I would never understand leftests.

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Yes. That is the point that was lost on J-Mao (who apparently didn’t realize she was crossing party lines). She then quickly recovered by insisting that it be OTC and FOC.

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Are there any medical reasons why BC pills require a doctor’s RX? I would think there would have to be some restrictions on minors, at least. I don’t know. I’m asking from a purely physiological POV.

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nc checks and balancesnc checks and balances BC is hormones and they should always be watched by a doctor IMO. When my wife was a teenager, she was placed on BC to try to regulate her periods. She did not react well and almost died as a result. To most people BC is no biggie but to some, it can be deadly. I don’t think people realize how much.

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I had a CVA due to BC.

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AvatarPVG Sorry to hear that. I hope it was minor and you had a full recovery.

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Yes! BC pills can cause blood clots that can result is a CVA (stroke)
Smoking, Hypertension, when combined with BCs pose many potential health risks.

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AvatarPVG Blood clots can cause smoking? I hadn’t heard that one.

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No unamused

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lol

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Smoking while on birth control especially over the age of 35 greatly increases the risk of thromboembolism, DVT, myocardial infarction, and stroke. That risk is present even without smoking but smoking increases this risk. This is just one reason why birth controls shouldn’t be OTC.

Also, there are so many different formulations of birth controls with different combinations of hormones at different times. All of this needs to be monitored by a physician.

Cruz is wrong on this one even though I agree 99% of the time with him.

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AvatarPVG That’s what I thought. Due to my own complicated history, I really didn’t know, but I suspected as much.

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Will would-be trannies abuse the OTC pills to take gobs of it to transition?

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Let them. Who cares.

Kind of like the pregnant chick that goes seeking a back-alley abortion. If you’re intentionally doing something reckless and dangerous, you don’t get to cry foul at the results.

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Cruz’ attempts to join up with AOC concern me that he’s just seeking points by joining up with the Dems’ darling. That’s a very political move and I’m not a fan of politics. Cruz gained popularity because he wasn’t political.

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No, O/C birth control has been on the Republican agenda for awhile. It’s a lateral strike against the insurance mandates. That’s why the Democrats won’t get on board with it.

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Hmm, still don’t like the idea of hormones being O/C.

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Well, there’s a bit of an argument that can be made that we do that already. A lot of the protein powders and supplements that exist on the market are designed to mess with your hormones. Nicotine and caffeine are straight up dopamine dumps right into your brain. Melatonin and serotonin are sold OTC. You can find OTC pills for adrenaline if you look hard enough.

So on and so forth. Is this really much different from that?

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ATAT And all those things are a problem. The over use of BC has caused the hormone levels to rise in some of our lakes. When I lived in Vegas, this was an issue with Lake Meade, which provides water to the city and SoCal. It can seriously mess with developing children causing girls to mature early and mess up boys due to the introduction of Estrogen.

AT
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That’s weird. How’d that work?

Paladin
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ATAT Actually I don’t remember the details. It’s been over 10 years since I read about it.

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PaladinPaladin Makin’ them frogs gay, too.

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Agreed.

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Careful Cruz, if you lay down with dogs you’ll liable to get fleas.

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Excellent point.

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BC pills are hormone pills and anyone who’s seen someone lose it over hormones knows, it’s not a good idea to make that over the counter.

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I don’t have a problem with making it OTC so much as I do the argument that pharmacies et al should be mandated to stock and dispense them.

Which was a big thing when some folks argued religious objection to that a few years back.

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ATAT Didn’t think about that, but I can understand certain Christian run pharmacies being against BC. The Catholic Church as anti-BC so it makes sense to me. Not selling them would be a business decision and I think it’s wrong that businesses be mandated to carry them, just like I think it’s wrong that a bakery be forced to bake a cake for a gay wedding. People have the ability to go somewhere else to get the product.

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Agreed.

The counterargument, in case you’re wondering, is the same one they make for abortion. “It’s not convenient for me to get birth control therefore I can’t get birth control, which means my rights are somehow being deprived.”

It’s a bogus argument, but it’s all they have.

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Unfortunately, I doubt she’ll cosponsor a bill unless that bill also mandates that drug/insurance plans must cover it for free.

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Yes, she’s already commented to that effect in reply to The Beard.

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BC pills must be pretty cheap, they’ve been around long enough.

Why is Cruz legitimizing AOC? This is rather baffling.

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He’s setting her up.

O/C birth control was shot down by the Democrats because it puts the contraception mandates for health insurers in jeopardy. AOC is too stupid to realize that she’s fighting her own team on this one.

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Well hello…At least one person there is trying to avoid murder of the unborn or born apparently. He shouldn’t have to go there and it’s highly unlikely anything coming out of that place will be a single item bill but good luck!

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