Trump defends his 2017 Charlottesville comments against media LIES and he’s not wrong…

For some reason Trump was asked about his 2017 Charlottesville comments this morning and he once again defended his comments.

Watch:

In case you didn’t hear the question clearly, Trump was asked if he still says there were very fine people on both sides in Charlottesville.



This is actually really important because the media continues to lie about what he actually said, accusing him of praising the Neo-Nazis and white supremacists.

As pointed out by Steve Cortes at Real Clear Politics the other day, here’s the transcript of Trump’s comments from 2017:

“Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.”

They point out that he went on to reiterate that he wasn’t talking about the Neo-Nazis:

“I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.”

Cortes concludes…

As a man charged with publicly explaining Donald Trump’s often meandering and colloquial vernacular in highly adversarial TV settings, I appreciate more than most the sometimes-murky nature of his off-script commentaries. But these Charlottesville statements leave little room for interpretation. For any honest person, therefore, to conclude that the president somehow praised the very people he actually derided, reveals a blatant and blinding level of bias.

The problem is the media conflates the legitimate protesters with the White Nationalists and Neo-Nazis, and clearly Trump was not doing that. But the media continues to spread lies about what Trump actually said.

(h/t: Tracy)

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99 thoughts on “Trump defends his 2017 Charlottesville comments against media LIES and he’s not wrong…

  1. Are we seriously relitigating the question of a Neo Nazi rally containing normal people? Is that what defense of Trump has brought us too?

    1. Yes he has brought us to telling the truth. How dare he.

      “I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.”

  2. I liked WW2. There were very fine people on both sides. Americans, Nazis – fine, fine people.

    WHAT!?

    Uh…. *thinks fast* uhhhh….. I’m talking about that Schindler dude. You know, from the movie.

    Then why the hell didn’t you just say THAT!?

    Come on Donald. Don’t piss down my back and tell me it’s raining.

    1. A number of nazi soldiers worked to assasinate Hitler, but only maimed him. They were executed for that.

      A number of Italians rose up against Mussolini and beat him to death.

      A number of Japanese opposed the war but out of a sense of bushido code, continued to fight.

      It’s impossible to know every individual soldiers motivation. As a whole, yes, Italians, Germans, and Japanese were the enemy and considered evil. But I’m sure there were individual soldiers who disagreed with their leadership. So yes, I’d feel safe that even in WW2 there were fine people on both sides.

  3. Are we talking about the same media that still quotes Sarah Palin incorrectly?
    Leopards don’t change their spots…

  4. We know what the truth of Charlottesville is and the MSM lied. The MSM is going to have a lot to do to CYA for Biden. He’s got enough baggage it’s going to take a freight train to carry it all.

    1. And being Biden he will add things to the luggage on a daily basis. He may have a brain but most of the time it isn’t connected to his mouth.

  5. Trump defends his 2017 Charlottesville comments against media LIES and he’s not wrong…

    Does anyone else feel this headline is ambiguous? Trump defended himself and he was not wrong? Why not just say he was right? Saying “not wrong” seems like something Kellyanne Conway would say to appease Trump.

    Turning to Trump’s double-downing of the “fine people” comment. Conservatives have turned toward defending Trump on this, that Trump was discussing the people who wanted the statues to stay or whatever, but also that Trump specifically condemned the neo-nazis. However the fact remains, the rally in Charlottesville was always billed as an alt-right event. It was organized by white nationalist Jason Kessler. David Duke and another famous white nationalist, Richard Spencer, were scheduled speakers. The group of men wielding tiki torches and chanting “Jews will not replace us” the night before the main event set a pretty clear tone.

    So Trump fumbled on this statement and he knew his supporters were likely on the other side of that rally, so he tried to play neutral. I get it, speaking is not Trump’s strong-suit… but Biden is appropriately using it to show the turn our country has made.

    1. “Trump defended himself and he was not wrong?” Why not just say he was right?

      Um, litotes?

    2. What color is the sky in your world?

      What possible reason would Trump have to pander to white nationalists? Yes they were prominent at the rally because that is the ONLY thing the MSM focused on, but Trump also knew there was a rally to protect the monument.

      No one else’s fault that yall weren’t aware of different groups there that were not Unite the Right or Antifa.

      1. How was the rally advertised? It was advertised as the “Unite The Right Rally” and as I previously said, organized by white nationalist Jason Kessler. So for Trump to say there were good people on the side of folks who are White Nationalists chanting they won’t be replaced by Jews is…. disheartening at best from an American president in these times.

          1. Yes [White supremacists] were prominent at the rally because that is the ONLY thing the MSM focused on, but Trump also knew there was a rally to protect the monument.

            They were prominent because the rally was organized by, wait for it…. White supremacists. It’s the same reason you heard the hate-stirring chants that occurred at the rally. I am glad the media pointed out who organized such an event.

            Surely there’s “good people” at any event, heck there’s even some “good people” in ISIS…. but for a country with as frightening a record on race as ours, your hope is the leader of the free world would be aware and not protect racists simply because they voted for him. The point Biden makes, to me at least, is we have a sloppy president who panders to the Stephen Millers of our country and that ain’t America.

            1. Elvis,
              Who was Trump referring to as good people when in the next sentance he said he wasnt talking about neo nazi supremacists.

              He knew who was there.

    3. “Trump defended himself and he was not wrong? Why not just say he was right?”

      Because these guys write headlines all day and try to punch them up to be colloquial and click-worthy.

      “He’s Not Wrong” is common enough so that we all know what it means and it’s meant to sound a little sassy.

      “the rally in Charlottesville was always billed as an alt-right event”

      Billed by whom? By the very media that tried to smear Trump by ignoring the context of his statement? Your reasoning there is circular and thus flawed. The statue teardowns were in the news at the time and people who aren’t racists were upset at the biased attack on history.

      Is such an event also a place where white nationalists would want to appear? Of course. It was also a place where Antifa appeared, but I don’t see you saying it was billed as “an Antifa event”.

      1. Because these guys write headlines all day and try to punch them up to be colloquial and click-worthy.

        Sigh…. true. I always fear folks will take the headlines seriously.

        Billed by whom? By the very media that tried to smear Trump by ignoring the context of his statement?

        The rally was organized by Richard Spencer…. I mean, if you want to say it’s not an alt-right event, then…. you’re in a bubble.

        Is such an event also a place where white nationalists would want to appear? Of course. It was also a place where Antifa appeared, but I don’t see you saying it was billed as “an Antifa event”.

        Right, this was an alt-right event so Antifa showed up in protest of their protest…. so it was not an Antifa event.

  6. The Charlottesville event was more complicated than the media wants to portray., but if you bought the crap the media was serving, you would think that Charlottesville was only about white nationalists and violence they perpetrated against peaceful leftists. In fact, the BLM and Antifa protestors were also just as violent. And in addition to those violent groups, there were others who were there to express support for/against removing Robert E Lee statue without any violence. And these are the groups Trump was talking about “fine people”.

    1. @independentlibservative

      In fact, the BLM and Antifa protestors were also just as violent.

      That’s true, but they didn’t kill anybody (that time).

      1. Antifa’s violence is horrendous–they may not have killed anyone, but they hurt a lot of people then and previously.

        1. @independentlibservative I’m well aware of that. But the fact remains that the only people who got murdered at that event were the ones that alt-right jackass ran over with his car.

  7. Levin tackled this yesterday as Biden released a campaign video where he completely lied about what Trump said regarding Charlottesville. Typical!
    Biden, the next HRC!

    1. I hope Joe Biden is asked on The View, why he is continuing to spread the lie… I won’t hold my breath!

  8. It’s pretty clear what he meant since there were roughly 4 distinct groups that showed up to Charlottesville. One group was there to protest taking the Lee statue down and renaming the park, another group was there to protest TOO take the statue down and to rename the park. OK, those groups are the “good” people who didn’t show up to fight but to exercise their right to assemble and protest. The 3rd group is the neo-nazis and their allies, they showed up to cause trouble, same with group 4 which was ANTIFA/BLM and others who showed up to fight – they brought masks, shields and bats with them after all. The last two groups are the groups that were called out as “bad” by Trump. And yes the event was organized originally by neo-nazis however that does not mean only those people and their opponents showed up – press interviews with numerous people made it clear that plenty of people showed up to peacefully protest only for keeping the statue or for against it and did not show up to fight.

  9. A few neo-Nazi’s on one side and a few Communist on the other yet nobody mentions the commies. What Stalin and Mau did was significantly worse.

  10. It’s pretty clear what he meant since there were roughly 4 distinct groups that showed up to Charlottesville. One group was there to protest taking the Lee statue down and renaming the park, another group was there to protest TOO take the statue down and to rename the park. OK, those groups are the “good” people who didn’t show up to fight but to exercise their right to assemble and protest. The 3rd group is the neo-nazis and their allies, they showed up to cause trouble, same with group 4 which was ANTIFA/BLM and others who showed up to fight – they brought masks, shields and bats with them after all. The last two groups are the groups that were called out as “bad” by Trump. And yes the event was organized originally by neo-nazis however that does not mean only those people and their opponents showed up – press interviews with numerous people made it clear that plenty of people showed up to peacefully protest only for keeping the statue or for against it and did not show up to fight.

  11. Are we seriously relitigating the question of a Neo Nazi rally containing normal people? Is that what defense of Trump has brought us too?

    1. Yes he has brought us to telling the truth. How dare he.

      “I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.”

            1. I remember the lead up to Charlottesville, and what was discussed. All of it overshadowed now by the riot.

            2. I cant find what I was remembering from before, but he did come out and condemn the nazis there is no doubt.

  12. The Charlottesville event was more complicated than the media wants to portray., but if you bought the crap the media was serving, you would think that Charlottesville was only about white nationalists and violence they perpetrated against peaceful leftists. In fact, the BLM and Antifa protestors were also just as violent. And in addition to those violent groups, there were others who were there to express support for/against removing Robert E Lee statue without any violence. And these are the groups Trump was talking about “fine people”.

    1. @independentlibservative

      In fact, the BLM and Antifa protestors were also just as violent.

      That’s true, but they didn’t kill anybody (that time).

      1. Antifa’s violence is horrendous–they may not have killed anyone, but they hurt a lot of people then and previously.

        1. @independentlibservative I’m well aware of that. But the fact remains that the only people who got murdered at that event were the ones that alt-right jackass ran over with his car.

  13. A few neo-Nazi’s on one side and a few Communist on the other yet nobody mentions the commies. What Stalin and Mau did was significantly worse.

  14. Trump defends his 2017 Charlottesville comments against media LIES and he’s not wrong…

    Does anyone else feel this headline is ambiguous? Trump defended himself and he was not wrong? Why not just say he was right? Saying “not wrong” seems like something Kellyanne Conway would say to appease Trump.

    Turning to Trump’s double-downing of the “fine people” comment. Conservatives have turned toward defending Trump on this, that Trump was discussing the people who wanted the statues to stay or whatever, but also that Trump specifically condemned the neo-nazis. However the fact remains, the rally in Charlottesville was always billed as an alt-right event. It was organized by white nationalist Jason Kessler. David Duke and another famous white nationalist, Richard Spencer, were scheduled speakers. The group of men wielding tiki torches and chanting “Jews will not replace us” the night before the main event set a pretty clear tone.

    So Trump fumbled on this statement and he knew his supporters were likely on the other side of that rally, so he tried to play neutral. I get it, speaking is not Trump’s strong-suit… but Biden is appropriately using it to show the turn our country has made.

    1. What color is the sky in your world?

      What possible reason would Trump have to pander to white nationalists? Yes they were prominent at the rally because that is the ONLY thing the MSM focused on, but Trump also knew there was a rally to protect the monument.

      No one else’s fault that yall weren’t aware of different groups there that were not Unite the Right or Antifa.

      1. How was the rally advertised? It was advertised as the “Unite The Right Rally” and as I previously said, organized by white nationalist Jason Kessler. So for Trump to say there were good people on the side of folks who are White Nationalists chanting they won’t be replaced by Jews is…. disheartening at best from an American president in these times.

          1. Yes [White supremacists] were prominent at the rally because that is the ONLY thing the MSM focused on, but Trump also knew there was a rally to protect the monument.

            They were prominent because the rally was organized by, wait for it…. White supremacists. It’s the same reason you heard the hate-stirring chants that occurred at the rally. I am glad the media pointed out who organized such an event.

            Surely there’s “good people” at any event, heck there’s even some “good people” in ISIS…. but for a country with as frightening a record on race as ours, your hope is the leader of the free world would be aware and not protect racists simply because they voted for him. The point Biden makes, to me at least, is we have a sloppy president who panders to the Stephen Millers of our country and that ain’t America.

            1. Elvis,
              Who was Trump referring to as good people when in the next sentance he said he wasnt talking about neo nazi supremacists.

              He knew who was there.

    2. “Trump defended himself and he was not wrong? Why not just say he was right?”

      Because these guys write headlines all day and try to punch them up to be colloquial and click-worthy.

      “He’s Not Wrong” is common enough so that we all know what it means and it’s meant to sound a little sassy.

      “the rally in Charlottesville was always billed as an alt-right event”

      Billed by whom? By the very media that tried to smear Trump by ignoring the context of his statement? Your reasoning there is circular and thus flawed. The statue teardowns were in the news at the time and people who aren’t racists were upset at the biased attack on history.

      Is such an event also a place where white nationalists would want to appear? Of course. It was also a place where Antifa appeared, but I don’t see you saying it was billed as “an Antifa event”.

      1. Because these guys write headlines all day and try to punch them up to be colloquial and click-worthy.

        Sigh…. true. I always fear folks will take the headlines seriously.

        Billed by whom? By the very media that tried to smear Trump by ignoring the context of his statement?

        The rally was organized by Richard Spencer…. I mean, if you want to say it’s not an alt-right event, then…. you’re in a bubble.

        Is such an event also a place where white nationalists would want to appear? Of course. It was also a place where Antifa appeared, but I don’t see you saying it was billed as “an Antifa event”.

        Right, this was an alt-right event so Antifa showed up in protest of their protest…. so it was not an Antifa event.

    3. “Trump defended himself and he was not wrong?” Why not just say he was right?

      Um, litotes?

  15. I liked WW2. There were very fine people on both sides. Americans, Nazis – fine, fine people.

    WHAT!?

    Uh…. *thinks fast* uhhhh….. I’m talking about that Schindler dude. You know, from the movie.

    Then why the hell didn’t you just say THAT!?

    Come on Donald. Don’t piss down my back and tell me it’s raining.

    1. A number of nazi soldiers worked to assasinate Hitler, but only maimed him. They were executed for that.

      A number of Italians rose up against Mussolini and beat him to death.

      A number of Japanese opposed the war but out of a sense of bushido code, continued to fight.

      It’s impossible to know every individual soldiers motivation. As a whole, yes, Italians, Germans, and Japanese were the enemy and considered evil. But I’m sure there were individual soldiers who disagreed with their leadership. So yes, I’d feel safe that even in WW2 there were fine people on both sides.

  16. Are we talking about the same media that still quotes Sarah Palin incorrectly?
    Leopards don’t change their spots…

  17. We know what the truth of Charlottesville is and the MSM lied. The MSM is going to have a lot to do to CYA for Biden. He’s got enough baggage it’s going to take a freight train to carry it all.

    1. And being Biden he will add things to the luggage on a daily basis. He may have a brain but most of the time it isn’t connected to his mouth.

  18. For some reason Trump was asked about his 2017 Charlottesville comments this morning

    Probably because Joe Biden made it the centerpiece of his announcement that he was running for president. Apparently, he wanted to actually travel to Charlottesville to make the announcement, but a number of the residents complained about the idea. So he played a video about Charlottesville, and repeated the smear about “fine people on both sides,” and offered it as the reason he was jumping into the race.

    1. @hubman Biden has enough of his own problems. Trump, if he wants, will have a field day. I hope he brings up Hunter’s business dealings in the Ukraine and how Biden got the prosecutor fired because he didn’t want Hunter investigated.

      1. @sjmom I’m kinda hoping Biden somehow miraculously gets the nomination, just to see it all fall apart again. But I doubt he’ll get that far.

        He’s not as crazy as most of the Democratic field this time around, but he doesn’t have enough pull to resist the crazy. He only survives if he joins them during the primary season, then betrays them in the general. I doubt he can pull it off.

  19. Unfortunately, I’ve heard Ben Shapiro repeat this version of events on his show some time ago.

    1. Yes, I heard him as well, Age. Shapiro’s TDS tends to surface every now and then… it’s sad.

      He did the same thing with the Covington kid…

  20. The media is able to get away with their lies for several reasons:

    1. The abysmal ignorance of many on the left.
    2. The haters believe what they want to be true.
    3. The right allows such crap without fighting back. Trump fights back and I doubt they will ever forgive him for showing them up for the cowards they have been and still remain.

    Media is broken beyond repair and doesn’t inform the public.

      1. Thanks to decades of the gift of a “liberal” education abysmal ignorance is a national catastrophe.

      2. @dr-strangelove I’m afraid that at this point, ignorance has become a bipartisan epidemic.

  21. Plugs conveniently left out the important part. But would we expect anything different? Ben Shapiro also missed it, which surprised me a bit

  22. They did the same thing with his comments on immigrants being animals. That is not what he said yet the lie persists.

  23. I appreciate the clarification and then verification from Steve Cortes. He’s right. We were all right. The damned, criminal MSM was all wrong. And continues to be. So if they were honest (they’re not), they’d wear this like a badge: That they consistently misquote an often tongue-tied POTUS in order to twist, spin or malign what he actually said (or meant) with something that fits their destructive agenda. I continue to view the vast majority of the MSM as an enemy of America. I do!

  24. Levin tackled this yesterday as Biden released a campaign video where he completely lied about what Trump said regarding Charlottesville. Typical!
    Biden, the next HRC!

    1. I hope Joe Biden is asked on The View, why he is continuing to spread the lie… I won’t hold my breath!

  25. For some reason Trump was asked about his 2017 Charlottesville comments this morning

    Probably because Joe Biden made it the centerpiece of his announcement that he was running for president. Apparently, he wanted to actually travel to Charlottesville to make the announcement, but a number of the residents complained about the idea. So he played a video about Charlottesville, and repeated the smear about “fine people on both sides,” and offered it as the reason he was jumping into the race.

    1. @hubman Biden has enough of his own problems. Trump, if he wants, will have a field day. I hope he brings up Hunter’s business dealings in the Ukraine and how Biden got the prosecutor fired because he didn’t want Hunter investigated.

      1. @sjmom I’m kinda hoping Biden somehow miraculously gets the nomination, just to see it all fall apart again. But I doubt he’ll get that far.

        He’s not as crazy as most of the Democratic field this time around, but he doesn’t have enough pull to resist the crazy. He only survives if he joins them during the primary season, then betrays them in the general. I doubt he can pull it off.

  26. Unfortunately, I’ve heard Ben Shapiro repeat this version of events on his show some time ago.

  27. You know there are some things Trump has said that were not laudable, why go all in on a lie?

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