Trump says tariffs could still be reinstated if Mexico deal not approved…

Trump’s deal with Mexico still has to get approval from their legislative body, according to a tweet by Trump this morning:



However Trump says if they don’t approve the new deal, which he doesn’t anticipate, the tariffs will kick in:

It was reported by Fox News this morning that Mexico’s president sees the deal as a success and something worthy of celebration.

If President Obrador has any influence over the legislature, then the deal will be approved as Trump suggests.

If it fails and tariffs kick in, you can expect the Senate to begin a process to undo the tariffs, as they were threatening last week.

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Sentinel
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As long as the flow of invaders is stopped…

ShantiGirl
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Mexico is a Narco state. All its pols are on the take. It’s corrupt as it can get, and I don’t see them helping the US on a long term basis to stop illegal migration. After all, the drug smugglers are running the show and want the borders to be as porous as possible. They may make a show of it for a little while, but ultimately the Cartels will be running the show. Just saying.

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This is turning into a mess and things will not change until Trump removes all of the Obama employees from his administration.Its almost like the NY Times is sitting in his office listening to all of his conversations.I have read where only one LEAKER was identified and removed.Maybe the leaks are coming from Mexico to the NY Times.

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So if Mexico is smart they’ll turn down the deal and let our own Senate Republicans kill the tariffs. So glad to see that the only action our Republican Congress will take to deal with the many immigration problems is to shut down the only man willing to do something about it. / sarc

If they have any better ideas I’d like to hear them. Oh yeah…that’s right. CRICKETS.

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Oh, there’s plenty of better ideas.

But they’ll cost them their Congressional seat. And since that’s more important than representing the will of the people.

But hey, let’s vote for them anyway. They’re not the other guy.

kong1967
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ATAT There is some truth to that when it comes head to head with the opposing party. I will not vote for a Democrat…ever. A lot of people say that’s not a good thing but IMO they’re wrong. Republicans disappoint us but they don’t give us Obamacare. They don’t push for open borders. They don’t push free college and paying back student loans. I would much rather push Republicans to do the right thing than be railroaded by liberals that want 32 year old pervert Joe to be able to be in the same restroom as 8 year old Lisa because he feels like a woman.

The time to weed them out is in the primaries. I will not help put America hating liberals in office.

AT
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I will not help put America hating liberals in office.

Uh huh, and what happens when your “choice” is between two of them?

kong1967
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ATAT Name an instance where that has happened. If you claim that Trump is a liberal I won’t reply because that is such a lame and old accusation I’m sick of hearing it.

AT
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2016.

Progressive Right vs. Progressive Left.

kong1967
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ATAT So you found a sneaky way around to say Trump.

AT
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There’s nothing sneaky about it. We’ve heard over and over and over that he’s not a conservative, doesn’t claim to be a conservative, and isn’t working for conservatism.

And if you view the means by which he achieves his goals, they are are very fundamentally progressive. The fact that they occasionally and incidentally benefit conservative ends is beside the point. He is working towards right-wing goals, I’ll grant him that – but he’s a progressive through and through.

And he has been for decades.

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ATAT I told you I wouldn’t respond to claims that Trump is a liberal and I meant it.

Dr. Strangelove
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@Kong AT is trolling for an argument. Again.

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Dr. StrangeloveDr. Strangelove Yep, but I kept my word to her that I wouldn’t respond if she claimed Trump was a lefty.

AT
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You said liberal. Not lefty.

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Your face is trolling for an argument.

kong1967
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ATAT That was a crappy thing to say.

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I didn’t say he’s a liberal. I don’t think he’s a liberal at all.

But he is a progressive. The two don’t mean the same thing.

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ATAT My original comment specifically said that I will not vote for a liberal, and you responded by saying “what if your choice is between two of them?” You may have switched the word but it is not what you said at first.

Besides, progressive and liberal are interchangeable because progressives push liberal ideas.

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Well now we’re just getting pedantic. The point is: two sides, same coin. The illusion of a choice, in order to benefit the existing aristocracy.

What they really didn’t want was an outsider or a maverick. They would have been happy with Jeb, but Donald worked out for them just as well being hip to and a fan of the DC games of greased palms and political favors.

Besides, progressive and liberal are interchangeable because progressives push liberal ideas.

Not true. See: Donald Trump. That’s a progressive pushing right-wing ideas.

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ATAT There are progressive ideas implemented into our system that you will be hard pressed to find any conservative candidate that advocates getting rid of, so you could essentially label every conservative in government as progressive.

This is a pointless accusation you make against Trump while he has done a lot for conservatives.

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Has he though? Has he really? Because I’ll dispute the crap out of that. Short term gains are fine and dandy, but the long-term damage to the social/political right? I don’t think we’ll recover from that. Trump fractured the right pretty hard. Arguably those fissures were already there, but Donald has made it very clear that he only represents “his people.” And now “his people” have embraced this notion of “winning” that is not unlike the way the left plays their game.

That’s not a good thing for the nation. The right used to have the moral high ground, and be based in principle. We chucked all that for our “win.” I don’t think it was worth it, and I think we nailed the coffin shut on the vision of the Founders.

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President Obrador’s party has the majority in Mexico’s Legislative body… it should pass. Now, I’m surprised Mexico made a deal as the open border RINOs were undermining President Trump as the negotiations were taking place… talk about IDIOCY and spineless politicians!! The poor people will have to pay higher prices for avocados!! SMH

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Can we please also work on getting rid of the “fake” law that deems every baby born in America a US citizen? Most of the parents of the children have NO allegiance to the United States of America. Many send any money they make here back home to their native land. It’s absurd that just because a baby is born on US soil, they are automatically given citizenship.

https://onenewsnow.com/national-security/2019/06/09/every-year-300k-anchor-babies-born-in-us

Dr. Strangelove
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Avatarjoyfulgiver We don’t need to change any laws, just correctly interpret the 14th amendment.

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Dr. StrangeloveDr. Strangelove This has been one of the WORST, most damaging misinterpretations in our history. It must be corrected!!!

joyfulgiver
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Yes, I should have said “interpret” correctly, you are so right.

https://www.14thamendment.us/birthright_citizenship/original_intent.html

Ciceroni Excogitatoris
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With the quislings in the Republican Party, starting with Mitch McConnell, I doubt Congress will take this issue… smh

Michelle Lee
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The country is gone. This will never be fixed.

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If Mexico goes back on the deal, their economy will fully collapse. Trump has a ton of leverage here. Even the threat of Congress trying to intervene against Trump’s use of tariffs will end up being a giant fail.

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I just heard on the radio that Obrador is sending 6,000 national guard troops to the Guatemala border. Sounds like he’s serious.

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About dang time!

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He needs to send troops to the Northern border…and buses for the return exodus

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pyboppybop Agreed. If he can find enough of them who aren’t in the pocket of the cartels.

Ciceroni Excogitatoris
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He already did, Doc. He’s sending another few thousand after the deal is approved by Mexico’s legislative body.

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Ciceroni ExcogitatorisCiceroni Excogitatoris Good! I hope that he’s really serious.

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Uh huh. And what will they do when they’re confronted, (especially with a larger force)?

Shoot? Round ’em up and put them in cages? Hell no.

That’s a paper tiger. Just like our Paintbrush Brigade at the border is. The appearance of a solution, without actually solving anything.

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ATAT I loved the way you said, “Blah, blah, blah.” but I was really convinced when you followed up with, “Yada, yada, yada.”

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I’m glad. You should just let me do your thinking for you. You’re clearly not qualified for it.

Abe Lincoln
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I’m guessing he had to say that seeing the Democrats and RINOs are working to undermine him.

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This is what “trust but verify” means. What’s the problem?

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nc checks and balances- Yup, GMTA

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ScopeScope Yeah, well it isn’t exactly rocket science, is it? Except, somehow to our Congress. silly

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That is why I posted last week that Trump had only “suspended” the tariffs due to take affect today. It left the door open so that the tariffs would take affect if Mexico didn’t hold up their end of the deal. I believe that is what is called “trust but verify.”

If the deal falls apart, and Trump reimposes tariffs on Mexico, I promise Mitch McConnell and his big dollar donors, the COC, will be first in line to try to stop the tariffs. McConnell is blatantly proving that it’s all about his bank account, rather than what is good for the country. What is it with the people in KY who keep sending a feckless power and greed Senator back to DC? I know the answer to that, it is because McConnell sticks huge illegal earmarks into must pass bills.

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ScopeScope Oops, I just post the same thing. GMTA!

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It is sad that President Trump continues to treat a neighbor and longstanding American ally with great disrespect. Mexico and the U.S. recently reaffirmed existing agreements and understandings and modestly added to them. Yet, Trump continues to treat Mexico as being unreliable. At the same time, he continues to engage in sweeping exaggeration that is inconsistent with the terms of terms of the U.S.-Mexico Joint Declaration. https://www.state.gov/u-s-mexico-joint-declaration/ It appears that President Trump is trying to find any way possible to blow up the agreement, by breeding mistrust between Mexico and the United States and concocting a rationalization to impose the “beautiful” tariffs he greatly prefers to free markets. Meanwhile, on a separate front, it appears that President Trump is seeking to further escalate the trade war he initiated against China with new tariff threats. Congress should muster the courage to retake statutory authority it had granted to the President over… Read more »

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Don Sutherland-

“It is sad that President Trump continues to treat a neighbor and longstanding American ally with great disrespect.”

Are you referring to that great neighbor and longstanding ally that is aiding and abetting the invasion of America with hundreds of thousands of illegals, as well as the drug cartels that are killing our citizens with massive quantities of illegal drugs? That great neighbor and ally that has to depend on remittances from America back to Mexico in order to prop up their economy? That great neighbor and ally who has some of the strictest immigration laws who have allowed hundreds of thousands to enter on it’s southern border, and help move them with transportation to their norther border? You mean that great neighbor and ally?

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Exactly right!
That “great neighbor” has been sucking off this nation for decades. Get a clue DS!

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Don Sutherland
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Mexico has been working with the United States to help manage the ongoing migrant issue.

The Congressional Research Service (CRS) noted:

1. Since 2014, Mexico established 12 naval bases on its rivers, 3 security zones stretching more than 100 miles north of the Mexico-Guatemala and Mexico-Belize borders, and a drone surveillance program.

2. Mexico committed to providing humanitarian visas and work permits to non-Mexicans who are awaiting U.S. immigration proceedings.

3. In 2018, Mexico apprehended more than 100,000 persons from “Northern Triangle” countries (El Salvador, Honduras, and Guatemala).

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/download/IF/IF10215/IF10215.pdf/

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AvatarDon Sutherland I’ve made the argument that we had more justification to invade Mexico then we did in Iraq. There is just no comparison on the damage Mexico has caused to the US in terms of illicit drugs, crime, gangs, deficit, etc…. They’re just lucky we haven’t invaded them yet!

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Mexico is a third world dump and no ally of the United States. They aren’t an enemy but they are not an ally, either. You saying they are is naive or your TDS acting up.

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ryan-oryan-o They are an important trading partner, but friend? I don’t think so.

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Mexico is more of a parasite on US. I can’t imagine what shape it would be in if it was an Island and had no country like US to leech off of. Puerto Rico comes to mind.

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@Abe I have to disagree. They’re an ally and one of our biggest trading partners, but I wouldn’t call them a real friend.

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Dr. StrangeloveDr. Strangelove yes they are a trading partner, but not an ally. I may be wrong, but I don’t believe they even helped us with war in Afghanistan. I place them in same position as China–they love to leech off of US and are really working to undermine us. They even treat our soldiers with disdain. Just a few weeks ago, they captured some of our soldiers on border and detained them without cause. They do that frequently and even when our soldiers travel there for vacation.

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I’m thinking some folks are getting lonely over at that other un named site.

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EWizzyEJDSonEWizzyEJDSon Ssshhh! And whatever you do, don’t say the name three times.

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AvatarDon Sutherland So you’re saying that Mexico is reliable? The country makes Chicago look like a convent.

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Mexico has made a good faith effort to assist the United States and has cooperated with the United States in trying to address the migrant issue. However, Mexico lacks the capacity to address the issue on its own. Indeed, if it were so easy to address the issue, why hasn’t the Trump Administration addressed it even as the U.S. has vastly superior resources with which to work? The reality is that it is a difficult problem. Scapegoating allies doesn’t fix problems. Making excuses doesn’t fix problems either.

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The millions of Mexicans and OTM’s being not only allowed, but facilitated to cross the border does not sound like cooperation to me.

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What more could the Trump Administration do, given our laws and the opposition from the democrats to even acknowledge the problem?

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Free markets? What’s free when you have a $72.7 billion trade imbalance? It’s free for who? Get outta here!

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Yeah…no tariffs. But is Mexico really going to uphold the agreement? Heck do we even know what’s in the agreement? Is it fluff? Is it heavy? Will we notice anything different three months from now? Stay tuned! Same Taco Time! Same Taco Channel! (oh, this wasn’t a SooperMexican article.)

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Trusting Mexico will be like trusting a fart after eating too many Taco’s

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John HenryJohn Henry I know what you mean. I had a colitis flare up and I’ve been running late all morning.

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If Mexico somehow ends up keeping their end of the bargain up, expect Donald Trump to send a Golden Taco Bowl to their leader. smile

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