VIDEO: ‘Muslim Defence League’ hurls ROCKS and BRICKS at Tommy Robinson supporters as police LOOK ON

Over in jolly old England, Muslims are hurling rocks and bricks at anyone who sounds the alarm about refugees and immigrants, and the police sit there and watch, and escort them to get as close as possible.

This video is kind of unbelievable:



Pretty disturbing:

The video says a child was stabbed but I couldn’t find confirmation of that.

There’s not much reporting on it, and much of it is biased against Robinson:

Police cars were smashed by flying objects as violence erupted between protesters at an event organised by Tommy Robinson.

Hundreds of people gathered as the far right activist arrived in the Limeside area of Oldham on Saturday evening.

People reported seeing bricks and eggs being launched into the crowds as tensions flared on the residential roads around Seventh Avenue.

Scores of police officers, armed with shields and batons, attempted to separate both sides during the incident.

An eyewitness, who didn’t want to be named, said: “I saw bricks being thrown into the crowds. There were police with shields and batons, and the Tactical Aid Unit were there.

“There were several dozen police. At the start there were eggs being thrown, but then people turned to bricks.”

And this is in a country that has much more restrictive laws against speech that the government doesn’t like. This is our future if we don’t protect free speech rights, and defend the principles and foundations of our civilization.

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England is all but gone. When the government refuses to integrate its immigrants and lets them run rough shod over its own legal system there are only two ways this ends 1) the immigrant (in this case Muslim) culture subverts the domestic culture or 2) the domestic culture is forced by necessity to take violent action and this almost always comes from the most extreme and radical nationalists. The American revolution is the only case that I am aware of in which the the domestic culture had the discipline and the restraint to stop the pendulum from swinging too far in the opposite direction and less we forget there was almost a military coup after the revolution and would have been had it not been for the impeccable character of George Washington. Not saying Robinson is a violent or radical nationalist because I don’t believe he is but eventually the… Read more »

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Tommy Robinson’s view: What REALLY happened at Muslim riot in Oldham
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RTwkt15CS4

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So spray the bottles with bacon grease and throw them back! Or better yet fill super soakers with water and bacon grease and shoot at them with that and watch them scramble!!!

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Normally, I would say Hell will freeze over first before something like this happens in the USA. However, Sooper, with your last sentence, I can see this kind of crappiola happening here. “Rule Britannia”

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In Scotland, McDonald’s was asked not to sell milkshakes because they were being thrown at certain candidates and supporters. So Burger King tweeted that they were still selling the shakes, and to have fun with them. Tommy Robinson and Nigel Farage were on the receiving end.

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James Delingpole has interveiwed Tommy Robinson at least twice on his podcast. I recommend them for anyone wanting to understand his rise to prominence over the past decade. They are nice, long-form conversational interviews, and have some really interesting stuff.

This is the most recent one, from March 7…
https://youtu.be/TdWahm2z_R0

This one is from a year ago, and it covers more about his time in prison…
https://youtu.be/x69N5kHzgDw

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Thank you, K-Bob. I’ve saved this to watch later today. Tommy Robinson is one in a million and the Brits desperately need a million of him.
If I were a Brit I’d be in the crowd chanting “Hey Tommy, Tommy. Tommy Tommy Tommy Tommy Robinson!”

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Britain First is also fighting the good fight.

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I am not familiar with that group, so thanks for the good news, Nancy. I will check them out.

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I’ve watched several interviews with Tommy, and when he gets excited he starts talking faster and his accent gets thicker and I can’t understand anything he says. The one he did after he got out of prison last time was really rough. He was half starved and hadn’t slept well for months. He was convinced the muslim prison population was trying to kill him, and he got threats every day and had feces and urine thrown into his cell by the muslim prisoners.

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I saw that interview, too, debw, an it seemed to me that they very nearly broke him.

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“Undocumented immigrants” protesting at Charles de Gaulle Airport:
https://nypost.com/2019/05/19/footage-shows-hundreds-of-migrants-occupying-french-airport-terminal/amp/

Hey, I can copy and paste with my new tablet! Woo hoo! Maybe the phone will do it too and I just haven’t figured it out yet.

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That’s pretty astounding. I didn’t think that it was humanly possible to make Charles de Gaulle Airport any worse of an experience for travelers. Luckily, I’ve only had to transit through there a couple of times. Jerks lost my luggage going through there. I’ve refused travel arrangements by my corporate agent when she’s tried to route me though there.

The protest shut down the terminal, though airport operator “Aeroports de Paris” said no flights had been affected

LOL, yeah, right.

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Dr. StrangeloveDr. Strangelove I saw that last night and took note of the statement that AOC has championed the act of taking over airports …. Where is Churchill V. 2?
It’s horrifying to contemplate.
Cool about the tablet. I got one recently but haven’t used it much.

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patriot077patriot077 AOC is scary. Even if she doesn’t go for higher office (remember that unknown junior senator from Illinois?) there are plenty more like her.

And thanks! Verizon gave the the tablet for only a buck. (And $10 a month for two years.) Still not a bad deal, considering that I dropped the useless $13 insurance.

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What a deal! I have Verizon but I had to pay for mine! Did you get a new phone at the same time?

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There’s one way to save the U.K.. Deport the Muslims. Well, there’s another way but they won’t do it.

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kong1967kong1967 Nukes?

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Dr. StrangeloveDr. Strangelove Lol, not in their own state.

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British food ought to have done.

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What the food doesn’t take care of, the NHS will finish off.

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Very true. I like London, but for goodness’ sake, they can’t even make a decent fish n’ chips. You can go to any land-locked state in the USA and get better fish n’ chips.

About the only decent food in the UK are curries made by recent immigrants from Thailand and India.

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Bacon!!!!

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Mmmmmm, bacon.

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England is lost, as is the EU. This is what the muslim caliphate looks like and the consequences it brings.

This is what America will look like if we continue to elect anti American islamo savages.

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Somebody has been “egging them on” eh?

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The REBEL has been supporting Tommy for a number of years now, folks. They have sent a reporter to accurately report on what the Brits are trying to do to him in this particular instance and have sent unbiased reporters from other English-speaking countries at The REBEL’s crowd-funded expense to try to provide a counter to what the Brit media, courts, and police are doing to try to shut him down. You can read what The REBEL reporters are doing to tell an accurate story at this URL:
https://www.therebel.media/tommy-robinson-reports-jessica-swietoniowski?utm_campaign=js_oldham_riot&utm_medium=email&utm_source=therebel

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Rebel’s been really good at getting news about Tommy out there. They shut him out of just about every online outlet to get his info out.

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Seriously? You do know that Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (your “Tommy”) works for the Rebel, and in turn they work for him, right? They don’t get out the news, they get out the propaganda. They are as big a fraud as he is. Do a google and search about how they use this stuff to raise money.

Most of Great Britain knows this guy is a pathetic joke. He is using his colleagues/lackey’s at Rebel to stoke hate and raise money.

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Save your fingers. I know about Tommy and about The Rebel. As I said I’ve been following him since the EDL days. I don’t need to ‘Google’ search. I’ve watched it all go down. BTW are you from the BBC? Because that’s the load of crap they love to put out about Tommy.

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It turns out there are paid trolls running around the internet trashing Tommy where ever his name is mentioned. Tommy started his fight because a cousin of his had been groomed and raped by a Muslim gang. The British legal system had become corrupt and the victims were blamed, not the rapists. It continues.

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Avatardebw Thanks Deb! You’re absolutely right. He got thrown into prison for covering a rape gang trial, now they’re taking him back to court on same charge for calling one of the convicted a name. Insane.

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The standard drivel. Well imitated, T_umpT_ump .

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Not sure who I am imitating, but thanks?

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Aww look at that. They are so peaceful loving and tolerant, and it looks like they assimilated to the UK so perfectly well…With those screams of Allahu Akbar and all….

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It seems that the only thing they cherish is death….so I see no harm in helping them out.

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Why don’t they deport these violent muslims?

T_ump
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how about the violent racists on the other side of the line?

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Yeah, you mean those little kids or the people having rocks thrown at them while the cops do nothing. THOSE violent racists? Yer nuts. facepalmg

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this is what happens when you get your news from an organization working with the supposed victim. This is his game. He plays the martyr and you eat it up.

Not defending either side here. All political violence should be abhorred.

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Just stop. YOU assume I get my news from one place, then assume I’m some idiot who hasn’t been ‘enlightened’ by your hatred of Tommy Robinson. Did you see this article tweeted? Is that why you’ve rushed here to slam Tommy? Save your time.

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This guy’s a planted troll. Don’t respond to him. He just joined to comment on this story, not a regular reader here.

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Avatardebw He’s been around for a little while, he likes to take opposing views to deliberately antagonize people. A troll, as you said.

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yeah . . . that’s it . . . I’m getting rich here . . . better get that tinfoil hat adjusted, I think it is cutting off your circulation.

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RennyRenny The troll can’t honestly defend how the globalist E.U. and their open borders/mass migration policies are enabling the muslim caliphate and Sharia law to infiltrate and supersede British laws and culture. They’re forcing anti western, anti Christian anti tolerant, archaic and barbaric islamo savage rule onto their citizens.

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You can not defend what the invasion of anti western and anti Christian muslim culture is doing to Europe. The Quran calls for the elimination and eradication of all that do not accept Allah and Sharia law. Muslims are taught to never fully assimilate to the customs and cultural aspects of their host countries. The radical islamo savage element of the muslim culture will never rest until they eradicate western culture.

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Islamo savage? Does TRS really allow this kind of hate filled garbage here? Boy, times have changed.

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Your attacks on Robinson in this thread just don’t pass the smell test. Bottom line – Robinson was holding a rally. The people who came to attack his rally weren’t just there to protest. They didn’t have signs. They weren’t using their freedom of expression.

They were there for violence and blood. There’s no getting around it, and your attempt to claim that it was thugs on both sides is weak. It’s like defending Antifa. Antifa isn’t there to protest. That isn’t their stated or internal goal. They’re there to commit violence. They’re there to silence the free speech of others.

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@ttt T_ump is nothing but a troll who stirs up trouble every time he shows up here. I tried a logical reply once and realized that he’s only worth ridicule.

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Dr. StrangeloveDr. Strangelove I know, but sometimes playing Whack-a-Mole™ is kinda fun.

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@ttt True, I took a few whacks at him myself. Hard to resist the low-hanging fruit.

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@Dr. Strangelove I hadn’t seen the whacko here before. Thx.

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YW!

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I’m not defending either side. Violent confrontations aren’t the way to go. Just publicity and rabble rousing for both sides. If you don’tthink that is his goal you know nothing about his history.

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The classic “She deserved to be raped, being dressed so provocatively.”

The fact of the matter is one group was holding a political campaign rally and the other group came in to attack with violence.

If a bunch of Christian whites had descended upon a group of Muslims peacefully assembling I’d have the same exact vitriol for them. There’s no excuse for attacking a peaceful assembly. There’s no excuse for trying to draw a false equivalence between attackers and defenders.

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Ummm . . . no one deserves to be raped. Be careful when you start throwing around quotes, please.

Fake-Tommy got exactly the reaction he was after here. If you can’t see that, you aren’t paying attention.

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T_umpT_ump Which violent racists are you referring to? The ones that the voices in your head tell you about?

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T_umpT_ump Would those violent racists you’re referring to be patriotic British citizens that are sick of watching the E.U. enable the destruction of western culture in Britain and the rest of the E.U. countries? Where is your condemnation of the negative cause and affect of that importation of the violent islamo-savage invaders are having on Europe?

Under the watch of your muslim mayor London is now the murder capital of Europe. The E.U.’s globalist open borders/mass migration policies have wrought an exponential increase in the crime rate throughout Europe. The E.U.’s leftist/fascist policies are destroying European culture and replacing it with islamo-fascist totalitarian rule. Italy is the only European country that is defiantly standing against the E.U.’s fascist policies.

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Hungary isn’t far behind Italy.

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Your facts are woefully wrong on London, and on immigration.

therightscoop seems to be moving from moral conservative to openly embracing fascists and racists, and that is very sad.

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Believing in everything means believing in nothing… it’s the major downside to “multiculturalism.”

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Hurl those rocks and bricks back at them. Maybe we’ll start a gofundme to get Tommy Robison’s people some shuriken. Could you imagine? We can call them Robinson’s Ninja. lol

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Other videos show both sides were hurling objects. those protesting “tommy robinson” ) not his real name) were definitely throwing eggs, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they were throwing other things too. There are videos of Tommy Robinson supporters throwing rocks and bottles.

Not defending either side, but Tommy Robinson is a racist attention whore, so I can’t get too caught up defending him.

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Wrong bucko. This area is where they live. These thugs marched to this place just to cause violence. Prior rallies had no violence except that directed at Tommy. Stop the bs.

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Wrong? I’ve seen the videos. I don’t rely on the supposed victim’s news channel to get my information.

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No one is buying what you’re shoveling. Especially this “both sides” foolishness.

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You dont have to buy it when you could look into it yourself, and not at his employer’s website and videos. There is really no argument that “Tommy” has been shoveling hate and divisiveness and, yes, violence, for decades. He’s a hooligan by trade, and nothing more. And he’s an admitted former British Nazi to boot. So it is both sides, and even so in this case, as videos indicate. That isn’t defending the violence on the other side, it is reality. The view presented in the video above is hogwash. There was no stabbing. There were no injuries, except to two police vehicles. And the projectiles were flying both ways. Both sides deserve condemnation. Although I don’t always agree with you, you seem a level headed guy. But if conservative trendsetters push to join with racists like “Tommy” there are plenty who won’t be joining you. And if speaking… Read more »

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I don’t have to “look into” something of which I already know more than you.

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Other videos show both sides were hurling objects.

It’s classic propaganda to attempt to confuse violence and self-defense.

Not defending either side

Yes you are. You’re trying to equate violent assault from the Muslim protesters with self-defense. We see it in the media here all the time at Trump rallies. Trump holds a rally and violent protesters swoop in with masks and weapons. Rally-goers defend themselves and fight back… the news reports “violence on both sides”.

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LOL. It is not “self-defence” when there is a police line and barricade between the opposing sides.

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When the police aren’t stopping the attackers from throwing rocks and attacking, the original rally-goers can either run away or fight back. Standing your ground is self-defense. And if you watched some of the videos, you’ll see that the police line didn’t hold everywhere. Some people were beaten by the Muslim attackers.

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i saw no videos from this protest where “people were beaten by Muslim attackers.” Nor did I see any where people broke through the lines to engage hand to hand with the other sides. Surely if such footage existed, fake-Tommy’s “news” outlet would be all over it. The sides were separated by a substantial buffer. I’ve seen footage of the counter-protest with crates of eggs, and photos of both sides throwing items that are unidentifiable. Numerous actual news organizations reported no injuries.

The “report” of a child (or anyone) being stabbed seems to be nonsense. That’s the gameplan, though. Exaggerate the violence of the other side, while all the while trying to provoke them into looking bad. It goes on with both sides, only fake-Tommy has fake-news crew to package it.

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i saw no videos from this protest where “people were beaten by Muslim attackers.”

Surprise, you didn’t watch the video that Renny posted a link to elsewhere in this thread.

while trying to provoke them into looking bad

Oh, so now the peaceful protest “provoked” the Muslim attackers. That’s just typical “hate speech is violence” rhetoric. Doesn’t fly here.

Whatever, bud. It’s obvious that you think that violence against peaceful political rallyers is justified and you have some particular axe to grind against Robinson because OMFG! he changed his name at some point to separate his political life from his personal life. If you don’t understand the fundamental notion of freedom of speech, you’re a lost cause.

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1. you aren’t talking about the video from this protest.

2. the violence isn’t justified. and the violence came from both sides. fake-Tommy is playing a game. He’s cynically seeking out confrontation, misrepresenting it, then using it to boost his profile and raise money. you are his target. congratulations, you’ve been duped by a petty thug.

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Sounds like you’re justifying the islamosavages who were attacking an otherwise peaceful protest.

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Please link to the videos you’ve described. If the circumstances are as you say, and the context is clear, I’ll condemn it. I’ve never heard Robinson use racial slang. The word “racist” is thrown around too loosely anyway. If you have video of his racism, please provide that link as well.

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On the road, so I’ll have to provide a link later, if I’m not banned by then. If you’ve never heard him use racist slang, you aren’t looking too hard. I’ll link to some of those too.

He admits he was a British Nazi, so no link necessary on that, I suppose.

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You saying he admits to being a British nazi doesn’t cut it. I don’t “follow” Robinson, but I watched his stuff time to time. Never heard him use derogatory racial slang. Show me evidence of his racism. Islam isn’t a race. Muslim isn’t a race. Feel free to post your links. Hopefully it’s not garbage like TYT.

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Here is a link to a recent video that checks all the boxes. It’s a recorded video-call by fake-Tommy to friends, from a few months ago. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8410133/tommy-robinson-drugs-racist-slur-rant/ In case you have trouble with the accent, the video starts with this little tune expressing how fake-Tommy feels about the “Islam race”: “Move over ’cause me coming’ through And this what me am gonna do I’m gonna punch you in the head I’ll kick you in the face ‘Cause I am the King of the whole Islam race.” Also in the video, he used a racist slur to refer to taxi-drivers, bragged incessantly about scoring drugs (“gear” in British slang) around the world, even in Muslim countries, and indicated he’d be scoring “gear” that night in Bologna. This isn’t surprising since he’s been convicted of drug (cocaine) possession, along with convictions for violence, public order offenses, contempt, financial fraud, and immigration fraud.… Read more »

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Okay. Awesome that you did the digging. I respect that. The Sun is a bit of a sketchy source, and the video is choppy which does leave a little context out. But we’ll take it for what it is. Also the accent I admit is pretty rough for me. I’m assuming you’re a Brit? Okay I’ll comment on what I understand. Firstly, let’s admit, he’s drunk as shit in the video. The Islam race song. It looks like he’s singing it in jest. To me, that the equivalent of making a “dumb Pollack” “or “cheap Jew” joke. Not PC, but doesn’t make someone a racist. I’m assuming “score” in Brit refers to drugs. In my neck of the woods, it meant getting laid. So he likes buying drugs. Don’t personally approve. But I’m Libertarian on the issue. As far as his other convictions. I saw him punch a guy in… Read more »

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wow that is quite a list of rationalizations. You had said you “never heard him use derogatory racial slang.” Well now you have, and not old stuff either, stuff from a few months ago. You heard racial smears, stereotypes, a song about kicking, punching, and ruling the “whole islam race,” etc. Yet, of course, you still choose to ignore it, rationalize it, and dismiss it. That’s on you. And this is just the tip of the iceberg with fake-Tommy. Look at his history. Everything you say about football hooliganism applies directly to his approach to politics. In fact that was the goal of his “EDL.” Mobilize the masses like football mobs, and take the streets. Make it tribal. Us against them, whether it makes sense or not. And kick their asses. As for the supposed child being stabbed, that was the claim made in the video about the recent incident… Read more »

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I said I’d never heard him use racial slang. That’s true. I hadn’t. I had heard in an interview him talk about regretting some of his comments in the past. I’ve never reseached them. It was the past, he showed regret, ’nuff said. Much like I don’t hold Charles Barkley for once saying ” You see, that’s what I hate about white people.” And he never apologised for it. But I accepted, dumb shit was said, move on. As far as the song. Stereotyping? Sure. Racist? Your definintion of racist and mine differ. If every song was taken literal white cops would be justified in killing black rappers by the hundreds for all of the filth they espouse. Again. He never in the video said a child got stabbed. In the video he said children got attacked and somebody got stabbed. What he said in print at a later time… Read more »

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The press didn’t label him a nazi. He was a British nazi. A member of the the British National Party, which is a fascist party. While he tried to deny this for a while, it was well documented, so he switched to trying to minimize it. (It was under his real name, thus one of the reasons for the fake-Tommy moniker.) And his attempts to minimize are bogus too. After the British National Party failed to get political traction, he and a number of other Nationalist party officials started the EDL to take the issue to the streets. The EDL was openly hateful and violent –essentially they were based on the football hooligan model, but were Muslim hating hooligans (that’s what fake-Tommy wanted). But public opinion turned against them too. Again, Tommy distanced himself from the bad press while still keeping a hand in it. Next he started the British… Read more »

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Nationalism isn’t nazism. To equate it is disingenuous. Unless the Japanese are nazis and didn’t tell anyone. This trend against Islamification of the West isn’t unique to the UK. Italy, Belgium, Hungary, and several other areas are experiencing the same problem as the UK. Islam is inconsistent with Western European values. You can be a Muslim just fine. But when you try to dictate that your foreign scocio-economic structure supersedes that of an existing country’s, you’re going to have problems. “But, we’d flip our lids if a black politician, running for office, was singing songs about kicking and beating cops and white people so he could rule over them!” You mean like Obama being pals with Farrakahn? Or Kamala jamming to Tupac’s hate music? Or Hillary kicking it with Robert Byrd? Crickets. Every last one of them. In fact the press worked to protect Obama from being criticized for hanging… Read more »

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Come on. If you want to have an intelligent discussion about this stuff, you gotta start pulling your own weight and at least do a minimal level of reading/research. BNP was a ethnic nationalist, neo-Nazi, fascist organization calling for an all white Britain. They called for an all white British citizenry, and advocated stripping all non-whites of British citizenship and deporting them! The espoused the biological superiority of the white race, and wanted to act on those beliefs to rid Britain of inferior races. They were Nazis. Fake-Tommy was an activist in a political party advocating white superiority and white purity that wanted to strip citizenship rights from everyone else and get rid of them! He was a f-ing Nazi! You just keep on making excuses for him though. As for your examples of the hypocrisy on the left, I don’t think you quite understand how hypocrisy works. If the… Read more »

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I gave Pegida a quick look earlier on wikipedia. Here’s haw they identify it. “, is a German nationalist, anti-Islam, far-right political movement.[9][10] Founded in Dresden in October 2014, Pegida believes that Germany is being increasingly Islamicized[11] and defines itself in opposition to Islamic extremism” Nationalist… not Nazi. Not the same. Again… Japan. Here’s what they said about their leader “In 2015, the founder of Pegida resigned after being reported as having posed as Adolf Hitler and having made racist statements on Facebook.[14] He was later reinstated.[15]” No context given. Was it in jest? The guy said it was. But here’s the pic. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/11360138/Pegida-leader-pictured-posing-as-Adolf-Hitler.html Doesn’t look so serious to me. It then again my humor is… different. He called asylum seekers “trash, brutes, and filth. He also said “there are no real war refugees”. Where is it dictated what race they were. Maybe they just don’t want a repeat of… Read more »

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LOL. Look at the British National Party. He was a Nazi.

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That’s a different group than PEGIDA. I don’t see any related individuals on Wikipedia. They have them listed as a facist group. But it’s Wikipedia so that might be an edit from someone like you.

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Oh Come on. In 2013, after having hidden the truth for years, (and when cornered in an interview by a reporter who already had his birth certificate and BNP membership information), fake-Tommy finally admitted his real name and that he had been a member of the BNP for a year. Not even fake-Tommy denies it was a racist organization. https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-politics-22936706/edl-leader-tommy-robinson-on-convictions-and-muslims His excuse – he didn’t know it was a racist organization – is pure nonsense. The BNP is notorious in England and they were even more notorious then. His saying that he didn’t understand they were a racist organization would be like an American from the south joining the KKK without realizing they were racist, as if hethought he was joining a bowling team or something. Plus, he continued to associate, politically and otherwise, with all sorts of BPN members and former members even after he moved on to the… Read more »

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Firstly. I’m not a Brit. So a lot of this shit is news to me. I don’t follow a country’s politics thoroughly that I don’t belong to. So if I take your word at everything you just said (no sources). Okay. He was a young stupid kid who was part of a white supremacist group. Doesn’t excuse radicalized Muslims throwing rocks at him and his supporters, which was the origin of this conversation. “Doesn’t seem like anything matters to you though. You just keep making excuses.” I look for definitive proof. I asked for video of him using racial epithets. You showed me a video of him drunk talking about buying drugs, sucking up to Bibi, and being the leader of the Muslim race. There’s nothing definitively racist about it. “I had assumed in the beginning of this conversation that you wouldn’t want to defend a racist Nazi looking to… Read more »

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I apologize for that last bit. I wasn’t intending it to be directed at you personally, but after I posted I realized it was written so it seemed it was was, so I edited it s soon as I reread it, but unfortunately you had already seen it. Again, I apologize. You may want to refresh and read the last bit again. Now to the substance. Anyone who advocates for any sort of ethnic /racial /religious cleansing of a nation, that person is, in my book a nazi. That isn’t a liberal or conservative doctrine, it is a lesson of history and a pretty accurate description. If “conservatives” no longer believe that ethnic cleansing is wrong, then they no longer are what I think of as conservative. And that is what the BPN advocated –strip all non-whites of his citizenship and deport them. And that fake-Tommy’s EDL advocated something similar,… Read more »

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Fair enough. I appreciate the apology and apologize in kind. As I said, I’m not a Brit. But here in the US we have some similar issues. First they took down Confederate monuments. People objected including myself, but we didn’t want to be viewed as racist so we kind of dropped it. Then you had schools erasing George Washington’s name and likeness from their campuses due to the fact that the man owned slaves in the 1700s. Now we have a presidential candidate, Pete Buttigeg who actually wants to eliminate Thomas Jefferson’s name from different facilities. Next comes Mt Rushmore, it’s becoming unacceptable. https://nypost.com/2019/05/18/pete-buttigieg-wants-thomas-jefferson-events-and-buildings-renamed/ To me, it sounds like their anger is more focused at your legislative bodies that it is at the actual immigrants themselves. It’s the same in the US. Multiculturalism doesn’t work and it hasn’t ever in the past. Different cultures have come to countries and assimilated… Read more »

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I had typed a reply but it got deleted. no idea why, but I get the hint. so I won’t bother continuing in this vein

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I hear ya’. Good debate. Best to ya’.

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Crickets!

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This is better vid with explanation from Tommy about what happened. https://youtu.be/QBgecf-rh8w No reports of kid stabbed, just some unbelievable video. With the police actually escorting these thugs TO the area where Tommy was having the rally. These people do not live in that area.

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LOL. He’s a lying racist attention whore. Not defending the other side, but no way I’m taking his word for anything.

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I’ve followed Tommy for years. He’s none of those things. It’s right there on video. You don’t have to ‘take his word’.

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For years? So were you a follower back when he was using his real name, Stephen Yaxley-Lennon? Were you following him when he was running with the British Nazis (BNP)? How about when he founded the bigot/houligan EDL? Were you following him when he beat up an off duty cop? When he committed mortgage fraud? When he said all sorts of racist garbage on social media? How about when he founded the English branch of the German nationalist “Patriotic Europeans Against the Islamisation of the Occident?” You know, the group whose leader liked to dress up as Adolf Hitler and post racist garbage on social media? If you actually know who this Stephen Yaxley-Lennon is and what he stands for, and you still support him . . . well that says a lot about you. Conservatives don’t need to associate themselves with a modern day Nazi wannabes. This guy is… Read more »

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He’s been completely open about his past. You are just muckraking in service of the destruction of Britain.

And knock off the spamming you made your point.

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Respectfully, this isn’t true. He hid the fact that he changed his name for years, until his real name came out in court documents. He and his people also denied and dismissed his connection to the British Nazis, until the proof was beyond doubt, so now he minimizes it.

People in the States are being duped. This guy is David Duke on meth.

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You are fluffing that moral equivalence as hard as you can, but it doesn’t stand up to scrutiny.

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Seems that is exactly what you are.

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You obviously didn’t watch the video. It includes video from the Muslim attack group where the Muslims admit that they aren’t even from anywhere near the area where the rally was held. On the video, they state that “nobody disses our religion”. They can’t tolerate even a peaceful rally. They were there, escorted by the police, and they were allowed to start the violence.

In their own videos, the Muslims are telling you what they’re doing and why they’re doing it.

But you pretend that you’re not defending “the other side”. BS

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I did watch the videos. They also indicated that they weren’t going to start anything but were going to be ready if it did start. Both sides were looking for a fight, and they found it.

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SMH… The U.K. took in A LOT of muslims… Just saying.

Renny
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But this is an area where the muslim population was minimal. Cops escorted them in.

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They seem to be taking over many of the European countries that allowed them to move there, i read that the Muslim percent of the population in the UK, Sweden, and France especially has been doubling like clock work every 20 years since the 1960s. They will be a majority sooner or later at that rate.

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They need more Clarkson, May, and Hammond in their lives.

Homer
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Don’t we all.

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So England’s Antifa except not privileged white snowflakes.

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Sometimes you can see the inevitable slide of events like a slow train wreck. Much of Europe is gone. They allowed too much immigration from a culture and religion antithetical to Western ideas of free speech, individual liberty, egalitarianism, and peaceful coexistence.

They let in a predator religion with a doctrine that demands submission from all opposition. It may take 20 to 40 years, but significant bloodshed is no longer avoidable.

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Spoken like someone who has never spend time in europe.

trytothink
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Wrong. I spend at least a few weeks in various countries in Europe every year.

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Then you know very well that “much of Europe” is not “gone.”

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The Muslim Defense League. The newest terrorist organization, straight of of merry ol’ England. We need to minimize ties with England, and most of England, in general, especially if they’re looking to integrate Huawei deeper into their communications infrastructure. We need to remove our military forces, if they can’t control their country, and continue moving into tyranny, and we need to have less intelligence cooperation, if they don’t get their heads out of their 4 points of contact on Huawei, a tool of the Chinese enemy.

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Not condoning the organization, but my guess is the name is a play on the hooligan/anti-islam organization started by “Tommy Robinson” (really Stephen Yaxley-Lennon) some years back called the English Defence League. That’s what is happening here, it is thug against thug.

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Why do you qualify every statement with “I’m not condoning…” or “I’m not taking sides.” when you are obviously supporting the islamosavages?

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Because it is important. I abhor all these violent radicals. I don’t see it as productive or necessary. It is mistake to only condemn one side and not the other.

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One side initiated violence. The other didn’t. The fact that you don’t mention that makes it really obvious that you’re biased heavily in favor of the attackers. Do you think we don’t see that right away just because you keep saying, “not condoning the organization, but”

Everything before the “but” is what we call bullsh!t. It’s like when someone says “I’m not a racist, but [insert racist rant here]”

Yeah, we don’t really believe the stuff before the but because you made it obvious that you were lying with the rest of your statement.

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@ttt Wut a moran.

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T_umpT_ump Meh. Just sounds like low-grade trolling.

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This is what happens when you don’t protect your culture. This never happens in Japan.

Chow Yun Fatty
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Socialists tried to get in Japan and they gutted their leader. We should try that here.
https://youtu.be/JdfNAvE3Srw

ryan-o
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Who could’ve predicted they’d do the same s#%t they did in their own countries? I never would’ve guessed.

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trytothink

It’s a real head scratcher.

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You just never expect “refugees” to act that way… exclamation

Didn’t they throw rocks and stuff in the 7th century too? Beasts.

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ryan-oryan-o Coming soon to a city near you! I’ll bet that similar things are happening in Dearbornistan and Minneapolistan, but it doesn’t get reported.

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They have free healthcare tho.

ryan-o
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It’ll never be enough.

trytothink
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Which is useful if you’re hit in the head with a brick and have a month to sit around and wait for x-ray approval.

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LOL

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I don’t see much “defense” from the Muslim Defense League, but I do see lots of offense. Looks like something you would see on the streets of Gaza.

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They must have thought they were in Portland Or. This is what the left wants in the USA.

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