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Troy La Mana
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Troy La Mana

Ames Straw Poll 2011 Results

1. Bachman_____4823
2. Paul_________4671
3. Pawlenty_____2293
4. Santorum____1657
5. Cain________1456
6. Perry________718
7. Romney______567
8. Gingrich______385
9. “Scattered”___162
10. Huntsman_____69
11. McCotter_____35

It’s time for any candidate that didn’t get over one thousand votes to leave the race. I’m sure we will hear about how irrelevant this poll is since Romney didn’t win (or even beat the one day old candidate Perry)

elmerfud71
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elmerfud71

Glad to see Romney slipping, but sad to see Perry wrote in.

Rshill7
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Rshill7

Bachmann wins the straw poll, Ron Paul comes in second.

brad richard
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brad richard

McCotter is a Very Strong Speaking & had many good points, someone to look at in the future! Imo –

KenInIL
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KenInIL

Loved all the dry humor in today’s speech, but you had to be up on the issues to get all the humorous cynicism. I know it would have sailed right over the heads of most folk.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

That’s just the speech Ron Paul needed to give. I’ve always complained that he doesn’t speak about his faith enough.

elmerfud71
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elmerfud71

I am glad that he doesn’t. He makes it clear that he believes that our rights come from our creator. His principled positions stand alone well enough to determine his ability to protect our right to worship, and express our faith on our own. Rather than displaying and interjecting his faith into a secular society, he simply promotes the principles of liberty that we are already endowed with by our creator. As well, he makes it clear that a free society is the only way to preserve our rights, and that every time we seek to take away others freedoms or legislate morality through legislation and regulation, we put our own rights in jeopardy. I am afraid that this is a concept lost on most of our culture, and this will continue to be to our detriment. If liberty makes a comeback, we have a chance. Displaying his faith too… Read more »

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I hear you Elmer – and agree with you. As a Christian – I’m thrilled that he personally is a devout Christian as it gives me confidence that he recognizes that he is a subject of an even higher Law.
His fidelity to the Constitution means that he has agreed to contract himself to a lesser law while honoring “That shalt not lie.” He’s the only politician I know of (maybe besides Rand – so far) who’s not lying when his lips are moving.

Point being – the “Christian” part of the Republican party does not know he’s a Christian. Many Christians actually think he’s not because he’s trying to decentralize the Fed’s “War on Drugs” back to the local authorities where personal responsibility and accountability can truly take place. They’ve been told by Fox that he’s trying to legalize drugs.

elmerfud71
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elmerfud71

As soon as the liberty light bulb goes on in people’s brains, they start to see how it all ties in. Like Paul said in a debate “I don’t need government to tell me that I don’t want to do drugs” and “gee, I might do heroin so we need government to keep me from doing it by making a law”. I would ask all the neo-cons, “hows that legislating morality thing going for you”? The best example of the ignorance of the war on drugs is other countries who legalized it and saw usage go down. The drug cartels go out of business instantly if there is no black market. Its amazing to me that these brave conservatives are so scared of freedom. They think that they believe in it, but don’t even know what it is. Like Paul says, he doesn’t just want to legalize drugs, he wants… Read more »

Anonymous
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Anonymous

You’re well read and I appreciate the discourse.

elmerfud71
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elmerfud71

Likewise.

Rshill7
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Rshill7

That was the most Reaganesque speech I’ve heard in years! I was thirsty for it.
It was without flaw. It ooozed charisma, it was drenched with patriotism and truth.

This is who I want…more than ever.

Rshill7
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Rshill7

That was the most Reaganesque speech I’ve heard in years! I was thirsty for it.
It was without flaw. It ooozed charisma, it was drenched with patriotism and truth.

This is who I want…more than ever.

elmerfud71
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elmerfud71

That is the effect that I was expecting. No offense intended.

Rshill7
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Rshill7

And I fully expect you to be Eeyore sir.

“Thanks for noticing me.” (Eeeyore)

elmerfud71
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elmerfud71

The last great hope of mankind? Not defined by class?

Keep reading from that paper on the podium, Rick.

Bla, bla, bla. Gotta go down the road and pick beans with the Mexicans to put up food for the winter. Don’t know how long I’ll have a job.

elmerfud71
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elmerfud71

The last great hope of mankind? Not defined by class?

Keep reading from that paper on the podium, Rick.

Bla, bla, bla. Gotta go down the road and pick beans with the Mexicans to put up food for the winter. Don’t know how long I’ll have a job.

Persephone
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Persephone

Mmm…snarky, snarky.

What’s the matter, Elmer.
Afraid that Perry could win and foil your dreams of all that doom & gloom that you’re looking forward to?

elmerfud71
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elmerfud71

No, I expect he will win. Instead of “Remember the Alamo” it will be “remember the Bilderberg” with this guy. If he does win, we will get to see him publicly define the word “global sellout”. At least I will. Bushs, Clintons, and Obama have done a fair amount that others don’t get.

I would venture to guess that all the people who melted during his “public prayer meeting” will miss the fact that he just negated the “only” Hope for mankind, for promoting nationalism as our last great hope. They will blindly give him the benefit of the doubt, rather than recognizing where is true loyalties lie.

B-Funk
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B-Funk

I haven’t had a chance to follow up on him. What’s his deal? I hear some negative and positive about him being tossed around, but I don’t know much about him.

elmerfud71
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elmerfud71

He is really good at standing back while other people do the dirty work. He covers his tracks pretty well. Though there are some things that make it pretty obvious that he is a lying hunk of political spoilage. Some don’t care, but he openly attended Bilderberg a couple of years ago. Which is a private meeting with the world elite power group. Those who believe that the Logan Act is a good thing, don’t like this, and believe that politicians should do public business in public. To some, this is traitor type behavior. He has helped to sell out Texan property owners to give land away for the NAFTA super highway. Personally, I would have a problem with my land being taken to give to people who are building an open border international highway planned by groups who want a North American Union. I am kind of fond of… Read more »

elmerfud71
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elmerfud71
Persephone
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Persephone

Mmm…snarky, snarky.

What’s the matter, Elmer.
Afraid that Perry could win and foil your dreams of all that doom & gloom that you’re looking forward to?

odin147
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odin147

about the debate…fox news a big disappointment…tax to spend ratio questions is a question designed to make the gop look extreme and the msm will run with this until 2012…why would anyone want to pay taxes rich or poor to a govt that has completely lost its way….the govt needs a reset…the coming election is about what the role of govt should be, should it be controlling companies via regulation, intervene in our health, our retirement, the cars we drive, our living room lights…is this what we want…is this the role of govt…and u wonder why the debt is so large…this is what the election is all about…there should be no question of taxes until the govt. resets

odin147
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odin147

about the debate…fox news a big disappointment…tax to spend ratio questions is a question designed to make the gop look extreme and the msm will run with this until 2012…why would anyone want to pay taxes rich or poor to a govt that has completely lost its way….the govt needs a reset…the coming election is about what the role of govt should be, should it be controlling companies via regulation, intervene in our health, our retirement, the cars we drive, our living room lights…is this what we want…is this the role of govt…and u wonder why the debt is so large…this is what the election is all about…there should be no question of taxes until the govt. resets

elmerfud71
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elmerfud71

All elections are ultimately about who gets what. People are now voting largely on who will keep the social system going, but pander to the small government ideals. These guys know that both are not possible, or probable. Therefore, they lie. Then get elected to run the controlled collapse.

odin147
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odin147

unfortunately we have a president who expanding the social system i would liek to have someone who atleast stops it from expanding if not reducing

elmerfud71
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elmerfud71

All elections are ultimately about who gets what. People are now voting largely on who will keep the social system going, but pander to the small government ideals. These guys know that both are not possible, or probable. Therefore, they lie. Then get elected to run the controlled collapse.

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