[UPDATE] – Senator Josh Hawley DESTROYS Trump judicial nominee over bigoted comparisons against Catholic family’s views on marriage

Today Senator Josh Hawley grilled a Trump judicial nominee for US district judge in Michigan, Michael Bogren, over comparisons he made between a Catholic family and the KKK.

After listening to this, one must wonder why Trump even nominated this guy:

Let me put this in context. Do you remember a case we posted on back in April about a Catholic family in Michigan who’d been disallowed from participating in the farmers market in East Lansing because they responded to a question on Facebook that they don’t allow same-sex weddings on their farm?



Michael Bogren is the attorney defending the City of East Lansing and the comments from Bogren which Hawley refers to in his questioning are comments Bogren made in the brief regarding this same Catholic family, the Tennes.

In the brief Bogren is absolutely making the comparison, in defense of the City of East Lansing, that this Catholic family refusing to allow gay marriages on their property is no different that the KKK using Christianity as their basis for refusing to allow interracial marriage or Muslims Imams arguing that women cannot drive automobiles. How absurd!

And then on top of that Bogren refused to admit to Hawley that he questioned the sincerity of the beliefs of the Tennes when saying that they applied the teachings of their faith “quite selectively”. After Hawley grilled him on this, Bogren finally just played dumb and claimed he didn’t understand the question.

I am so glad Hawley exposed Bogren for all of us to hear and I sincerely hope Trump pulls his nomination and sends him back to private practice before this goes any further.

UPDATE:

As I’ve been looking into this more, I now suspect that this nominee from Trump may just be something to appease Democrats so that he can continue to push his agenda through. This isn’t anything new, either. For decades Republicans have been making concessions to Democrats on district court judges in order to push through stronger constitutional judges to the appellate courts and the Supreme Court. If Bogren is in fact a token liberal judge, we should see Democrats vote en masse for him when his name comes up in the Senate.

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LAPhil
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Hawley is the best! Hope he runs for President in 2024.

robert callahan
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All: Unfortunately, none of you know Mike, and therefore should be reticent to judge him. I have known him for 28 years, the last 22 of which have been as a partner in the same office. I have worked very closely with Mike. Let me start off by disclosing I am a lifelong practicing Catholic. I am a lector at my church, past President of our Parish Council, and past Grand Knight for two separate Knights of Columbus Councils. If I felt Mike had a bigoted bone in his body, I would not support him in any way. He hit the nail on the head when he told Hawley that he represents clients, not causes. He also, at the same time, was representing Bay View Chatauqua Group in Petoskey, Michigan, in a lawsuit which claimed that that organization’s bylaws discriminated against non Christians. Mike has, of course, been excoriated by… Read more »

Demoncrat
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Trump can and should rescind this nomination.

Capelady822
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President Trump takes the advice of others when it comes to these appointees. There are far too many of them for him to handle the vetting process himself or get to know every one. Looks like he got bad advice.

So far, I am not all that impressed with Kavanaugh either – but I have a feeling there was a deal there. Kavanaugh clerked for Kennedy and I think that Kennedy may have agreed to retire as long as Kavanaugh was chosen to replace him. So far, he is voting with Roberts… and since the Obamacare fiasco – that is not promising. They depend too much on precedent – they are not originalists, like Thomas.

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Bravo Senator Hawley!
This is painful to watch this dude……next!

Colonel Beauregard Sanders III
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Why give Democrats anything? Thanks to Democrats themselves Trump can force through anyone he wants. Screw them!

Finrod Felagund
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Agreed. When Democrats control the Senate, do they ever let even a token conservative judge nominee go through? Of course not.

Ciceroni Excogitatoris
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Ciceroni Excogitatoris

I doubt he will be confirmed. Pick another judge, Trump!

bigsir74
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why didn’t we just offer the Democrats 5 token district Judges for Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court to have avoided that terrible corrupted nomination process.

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A wasted nominee. Orange man should go scorched earth on every nominee from now on and no longer compromise with the Dimocrats on anything. And all aid to their districts and states should be SLOW WALKED while illegals are transported to them at a pace of 500 per week. Time to nuke this entire sshow.

sjmom
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Hawley is good! Really showed this guy for who he is.

Hy Feiber
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Hy Feiber

A Republican with balls?

Seriously?

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First, unless people have forgotten or are just conveniently ignoring the proposition, defense attorneys are supposed to vigorously defend their clients. I’ll remind people that the 2nd president of the United States, John Adams, successfully defended the British soldiers of the Boston Massacre. 2nd, the analogy is apt. People that use religion as a crutch to support their views are fundamentally doing the same thing, whether it is to deny homosexual marriages or to promote racial segregation. Unfortunately both Hawley and those that applaud his questioning of Bogren are playing a game of emotions, not objective logic. It is well past time that the special dispensation for religions tossed to the dustbin of history to be replaced by similar freedoms for everyone. Namely the freedom to associate, or not, as their unquestioned desire. People should not be forced to perform marriages or allow marriages on their property as they personally… Read more »

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First, people have forgotten or are ignoring that you’re responsible for what you do and what you say. Bogen apparently can stand to state such lies and then makes a case for them.

Second, the comparison is a falsehood, and only those wholly ignorant of the major subject involved — Christianity — could ever state it. It is false because the Klan lied about what Christ teaches to support their racism. However, when a Catholic family states that they cannot, in good conscience, support homosexuality, they are accurately living out the teaching of Christianity.

It is well past time for people ignorant of subjects to stop talking about them and exposing their ignorance of them.

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Yep….sounds about right.
“those that applaud his questioning of Bogren are playing a game of emotions, not objective logic.”
And that would also comprise of at least 2/3 of the electorate. Please folks….save the my team vs. your team tribalism bs for your favorite sports teams!

The Sane Silence Dogood
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Great, now do moslems. Those that live here could NEVER live in their home countries again due to the fact that they are NOT following the Koran to the letter and would be killed for heresy. Nice attempt though…

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POTUS, Please pull this nominee.

AirForceVet98
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Wow. Senator Hawley just ate that guy’s lunch, said, “that’s awful”, spit it out in his face, stole his snack pack, then walked up & slapped his mama in front of him for making a bad lunch.

Trump better pull this nominee after that since I suspect alternative media like Shapiro, Crowder, Christensen & others are gonna make this issue front & center

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This is a perfect example of why it’s good to have a Devil’s Advocate, an individual who is supposed to research why someone should NOT be appointed.

kong1967
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Hmmm….I think Bogren was trying to say that from a legal perspective they wouldn’t be any different, not that they aren’t any different morally.

As far as I’m concerned people can do whatever they want on their own property. If the KKK had land and people wanted to get married on it, I really don’t care if they refuse to allow blacks to get married on it. My guess is that a black person wouldn’t want to get married there anyway. The only way they would is if they were trying to force it on the KKK to take on views they disagree with, which is exactly what the gay community is doing to Christians.

If you don’t like the views of someone that allows people to get married on their property, go get married somewhere else instead of forcing your views on them.

Paladin
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Well this is why we have nominees reviewed by the Senate. It’s hard to know everything. Hopefully this nomination will get pulled or it won’t make it through committee.

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Good for Hawley and it looks like Trump who has done pretty well on judicial nominations to date dropped the ball on this one.

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