WATCH: Trump calls John Kerry OUT for violating the Logan Act

Today at a press conference Trump called out John Kerry for working with Iran in violation of the Logan Act and says he should be prosecuted:

While Trump says Kerry should be prosecuted, he also said his people don’t want to do that because that’s the kind of the Democrat administrations do or something.



I would remind you that last year Marco Rubio asked the DOJ to investigate John Kerry for this very violation, but from what Trump says today it doesn’t sound like it’s going anywhere.

And just to point out, Kerry was asked about this last year and did not deny that he was trying to get Iran to wait out the president, hoping Trump will be gone in 2020:

Honestly, I don’t buy Trump’s excuse that Democrats are the only ones who do this.

If this is a clear violation of the Logan Act as it appears to be, then the DOJ should absolutely prosecute Kerry on this. The DOJ is supposed to be void of politics and if he’s guilty, he deserves to be prosecuted. After all, this is serious stuff.

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58 thoughts on “WATCH: Trump calls John Kerry OUT for violating the Logan Act

  1. At the very least, Kerry should be detained by the State Department and debriefed after any contact. Make it very uncomfortable, and dig, the way investigators do.

    This used to be standard operating procedure.

    1. @k-bob It still should be, but Kerry wouldn’t tell them anything that would hurt himself. “We talked about golf and grandchildren.”

    2. Oh how sweet it would be to catch John Kerry in a lie regarding some precise statement from an interview with the FBI regarding his conversations with Iran, and then subject him to endless prosecution for it.

  2. On not prosecuting Kerry: Republicans are always so magnanimous, so compassionate, so nice, and let Democrats get away with everything. It’s the right’s version of “That’s not what we do.” “That’s not who we are.” Without consequences, Democrats will continue to flout the rule of law.

  3. O/T It looks like we have dems posing as Republicans running in the 2020 primaries. Make sure to do your research folks.

    1. Wow, that ‘personality’ is super annoying. I couldn’t listen to very much of him. From what I suffered through, he only provided one example.

      Even in discussing that example, he did a very poor job substantiating his claim Chris Anglin is a Democrat plant. He could have quickly mentioned Anglin was a registered Democrat until just before Anglin ran listed as a Republican in the NC Supreme Court race. He could have mentioned how campaign finance report show Anglin’s major vendors were Democrats and leftist activists, and Anglin’s only major donations came from prominent Democrats.

      Instead, he pivoted to analyzing the strategy of running spoiler candidate/false flag operations. I would have watched longer if he started detailing a second or third instance.

      Instead, for a less than 15 minute video, I listened to him yammer on for 1:15 about what he was going to talk about later, and then spend 0:45 advertising himself. For those who know him, maybe they just know to forward through all that fluff.

      At least I was motivated to go and look it up myself and see what went on in that one instance.

  4. It seems like it’s become physically impossible to prosecute a democrat anymore. Republicans are damned cowards.

    1. The nobility doesn’t answer to the peasantry, Sentinel. The rules don’t apply the same to them as they do to us. They are our lords, and we their humble subjects.

      It doesn’t have to be that way, but it’s what we vote for – so, no complaining about it now.

  5. If John Kerry is indeed guilty, then of course, he should be prosecuted. As for those not wanting to pursue this, they should be called out and not reelected.

  6. I don’t know exactly what constitutes a a violation of the Logan Act, but IMO what Kerry is doing SHOULD be a violation. He has no position in the U.S government and no authority to be talking with Iran and giving them advice. Does anyone believe he’s giving Iran advice on working with the Trump administration in order to help Trump? As far as I’m concerned it darn near reaches treason. He has no business talking to Iran on behalf of the United States.

    1. In a normal world it’d be called treason but we’re no longer in normal times. There was a time, not that long ago, that he’d be in cuffs or worse.

  7. Until actions have real-life consequences, it will continue to be “same crap, different day.”

  8. Trump also said if he were president, Hillary would be in jail.

    We know how that turned out.

  9. Trump also said if he were president, Hillary would be in jail.

    We know how that turned out.

  10. Democrats have a long history of violating or skating the edge of the Logan Act. For all their lip service during Democrat administrations about our “disagreements stopping at the water’s edge,” Democrats are quick to politicize foreign affairs when the president is Republican
    1984 – Ted Kennedy sought Soviet help to make Reagan look bad.
    1985 – John Kerry and Tom Harkin went to Nicaragua to meet with Sandinistas in support of the communists.
    1987 – Dem Speaker Jim Wright tried to negotiate with Sandinistas.
    1991 – Jesse Jackson negotiated the release of foreigners with Saddam Hussein
    2005 – Jesse Jackson went to Venezuela to meet with Hugo Chavez, declared Chavez was “no threat.”
    2007 – Nancy Pelosi went to Syria to negotiate with Bashar Assad.

    Just more “pastel patriotism” and “blame America first” politics.

  11. O/T It looks like we have dems posing as Republicans running in the 2020 primaries. Make sure to do your research folks.

    1. Wow, that ‘personality’ is super annoying. I couldn’t listen to very much of him. From what I suffered through, he only provided one example.

      Even in discussing that example, he did a very poor job substantiating his claim Chris Anglin is a Democrat plant. He could have quickly mentioned Anglin was a registered Democrat until just before Anglin ran listed as a Republican in the NC Supreme Court race. He could have mentioned how campaign finance report show Anglin’s major vendors were Democrats and leftist activists, and Anglin’s only major donations came from prominent Democrats.

      Instead, he pivoted to analyzing the strategy of running spoiler candidate/false flag operations. I would have watched longer if he started detailing a second or third instance.

      Instead, for a less than 15 minute video, I listened to him yammer on for 1:15 about what he was going to talk about later, and then spend 0:45 advertising himself. For those who know him, maybe they just know to forward through all that fluff.

      At least I was motivated to go and look it up myself and see what went on in that one instance.

  12. It seems like it’s become physically impossible to prosecute a democrat anymore. Republicans are damned cowards.

    1. The nobility doesn’t answer to the peasantry, Sentinel. The rules don’t apply the same to them as they do to us. They are our lords, and we their humble subjects.

      It doesn’t have to be that way, but it’s what we vote for – so, no complaining about it now.

  13. If John Kerry is indeed guilty, then of course, he should be prosecuted. As for those not wanting to pursue this, they should be called out and not reelected.

  14. I don’t know exactly what constitutes a a violation of the Logan Act, but IMO what Kerry is doing SHOULD be a violation. He has no position in the U.S government and no authority to be talking with Iran and giving them advice. Does anyone believe he’s giving Iran advice on working with the Trump administration in order to help Trump? As far as I’m concerned it darn near reaches treason. He has no business talking to Iran on behalf of the United States.

    1. In a normal world it’d be called treason but we’re no longer in normal times. There was a time, not that long ago, that he’d be in cuffs or worse.

  15. Until actions have real-life consequences, it will continue to be “same crap, different day.”

    1. @sistermary Republicans are like a wet noodle when it comes to prosecuting Democrats.

  16. Democrats have a long history of violating or skating the edge of the Logan Act. For all their lip service during Democrat administrations about our “disagreements stopping at the water’s edge,” Democrats are quick to politicize foreign affairs when the president is Republican
    1984 – Ted Kennedy sought Soviet help to make Reagan look bad.
    1985 – John Kerry and Tom Harkin went to Nicaragua to meet with Sandinistas in support of the communists.
    1987 – Dem Speaker Jim Wright tried to negotiate with Sandinistas.
    1991 – Jesse Jackson negotiated the release of foreigners with Saddam Hussein
    2005 – Jesse Jackson went to Venezuela to meet with Hugo Chavez, declared Chavez was “no threat.”
    2007 – Nancy Pelosi went to Syria to negotiate with Bashar Assad.

    Just more “pastel patriotism” and “blame America first” politics.

  17. At the very least, Kerry should be detained by the State Department and debriefed after any contact. Make it very uncomfortable, and dig, the way investigators do.

    This used to be standard operating procedure.

    1. @k-bob It still should be, but Kerry wouldn’t tell them anything that would hurt himself. “We talked about golf and grandchildren.”

    2. Oh how sweet it would be to catch John Kerry in a lie regarding some precise statement from an interview with the FBI regarding his conversations with Iran, and then subject him to endless prosecution for it.

  18. Who is telling Trump NOT to prosecute Kerry??? Whoever it is he should get rid of them ASAP!

    1. There are a lot of issues with logan act prosecutions, which is why there has never been one despite far more flagrant violations (think Nixon in ‘68). If we start, fairness would also dictate that Flynn get prosecuted for negotiating with Russia re: sanctions during the transition, as there is no “well he’ll soon be part of the US government” exception.

      1. Comparing Flynn to Kerry? Say you didn’t just do that!! One is a hero and the other is a traitor. Flynn talked to Russians while Trump’s admin is in transition and only a few weeks from taking office. Kerry was undermining Trump’s policy in the middle of his term!! There is no comparison!

        1. I’m not making a comparison, I’m saying that both of them broke the same law.

          By way of comparison, if someone tried to rob my wife and killed her in the process and I, in response, hatched and executed a careful plan to kill said guy, we would both be guilty of first-degree murder. Well, second-degree murder in New York, but first-degree in most states.

      2. I don’t think you can get a more egregious violation than a former secretary of state from a former administration trying to rescue a treaty that was withdrawn by the current president. It would be different if the treaty had been ratified by the Senate, but it never was. Obama didn’t even try, because he knew the Senate would never approve it.

        On the other hand, the notion that a member of the president-elect’s transition team getting ready for inauguration and taking over foreign policy responsibilities is somehow violating the Logan Act is preposterous. The Logan Act was never meant to apply to a duly-elected president making the necessary contacts to take over foreign policy.

        The notion that Flynn was violating the Logan Act is not only wrong, but egregiously stupid. Only an idiot would argue that the president’s team is not allowed to contact foreign powers until the day of inauguration.

        This has never been an issue before because every presidential administration before Obama’s recognized the transition can’t happen without the outgoing and incoming administrations working together in good faith.

        And Obama certainly knew this, because he made public statements pledging to “smooth the transition” for the new president. Unfortunately, as we have found out, he was instead trying to sabotage the next president.

        1. In pretty much every previous transition, contacts between the incoming team and foreign governments have been facilitated by and made with the approval of the existing government. Nobody is saying that the incoming team can’t contact foreign powers, but the law says that civilians, which a transition team is, can’t negotiate on behalf of the US without the authority to do so. Traditionally, incoming administrations have deferred to and worked within the existing channels to establish that contact. It was the Trump team, not the state department, that decided to go rogue this time.

          It’s neither wrong nor egregiously stupid. Flynn was a civilian, he did not have the authority of the US government. What happened to applying the plain language of a statute?

          1. A weak attempt at rationalizing the application of the Logan Act against a presidential transition team.

            It’s a matter of record that Flynn’s primary discussion with the Russians was to encourage them not to react too precipitously to the sanctions, since a new president was going to be in place in a matter of weeks. The discussion, therefore, was in the context of what would be when the president-elect would be inaugurated and in office, and able to make foreign policy on his own.

            He was acting on behalf of the president-elect, and he was not negotiating a new policy for the present, but talking about what would be the policy in the new administration.

            This is NOT the kind of situation the Logan Act was written to address, as any casual study of the Logan Act would reveal.

            And my point about the lack of good faith stands out even more in this case. The Obama administration did not consult with the incoming administration on sanctions in order to present a united front to the world and ensure a smooth transition.

            No, they deliberately sandbagged the incoming administration with sanctions against Russia. They tried to preempt the next president’s foreign policy by publicly issuing sanctions and essentially daring him to change them. And since they were already trying to charge Trump with Russia collusion, it becomes obvious the goal was to make him look guilty if he didn’t adopt the same sanctions. Which is exactly how the media covered the sanctions.

            Flynn didn’t negotiate a new policy with Russia before he was authorized. He simply encouraged them to wait for the new administration — less than a month away, I think — before they reacted too strongly.

            And since Flynn was gong to be a national security adviser in the new administration, and was discussing what would happen once the new administration was in place, your whole argument that he violated the Logan Act is absurd.

            Flynn didn’t violate the Logan Act. That was nothing more than a pretext to send FBI agents to interview Flynn.

            In the whole affair, it was the incoming Trump administration that was being responsible and trying to have a smooth transition, and the Obama administration acting in bad faith by refusing to work with the new administration, and trying to trap them.

            Once again, Obama put partisan politics above his duties to the nation as president. Good riddance to him, and to Kerry.

            1. A president-elect is not a us government official. The congress of 1799 could have added that exception to the Logan Act. It didn’t. It’s always nice to see self-proclaimed conservatives suddenly adopt the view of liberal jurists re: congressional intent whether it suits them, though. Of course, at least judicial liberals have the decency to research and cite some evidence of congressional intent, as opposed to just stringing words together.

              Put another way: nobody with a JD worth a damn would look at these facts and conclude that Flynn didn’t violate the Logan Act.

              1. Insults and ad hominem attacks don’t add any strength to the claim that the Logan Act criminalized a presidential transition team doing what presidential transition teams normally do during a transition: contact foreign powers and set set what the foreign policy of the new administration will be when it takes over. Unless you can show that he was negotiating to set foreign policy for the Obama administration, you’ve got no violation at all.

                But the goal here seems to be to cover up a clear violation of the Logan Act by Kerry. He’s not negotiating foreign policy for a duly-elected president getting ready to take over the reigns of foreign policy. He’s trying to undermine the current foreign policy of the current president in favor of a past president who no longer has a say in the subject, in any way, shape, or form.

                The attempt to equate the two when the facts are totally different for each is, absurd.

                Bonus points for your attempted use of the “No true Scotsman” logical fallacy.

  19. John Kerry should have been serving time in prison instead of anywhere in government. It’s not the first time he commits treason against this country, yet he’s somehow allowed to walk freely while a war hero like Mike Flynn has his life destroyed. What a shame!

  20. John Kerry is and always has been, one of the most anti-American
    traitors this country has ever endured. When will someone finally
    acknowledge this and have the guts to finally make him pay for
    all the damage he has done? He hides behind a gloriously expensive
    Democrat hair style and a very extensive vocabulary and a
    reliable leftist media to regally walk the halls of pseudo importance
    to continue to do great harm to this country while making fools
    of all those who give him accolades.

    He is a stooge of Iran. Wonder how much his personal fortune has
    increased as such.

  21. Kerry’s had enough, guys. We’re not going to prosecute. He’s had enough.

    We should start a “They’ve had enough” club for people Donald isn’t going to go after.

    Or, maybe we just wake up and see this guy for who he really is.

  22. John Kerry should just quit the US and move to Iran. Actually Kerry moving anywhere outside of the US would be fine with me…..and a lot of others as well.

  23. On not prosecuting Kerry: Republicans are always so magnanimous, so compassionate, so nice, and let Democrats get away with everything. It’s the right’s version of “That’s not what we do.” “That’s not who we are.” Without consequences, Democrats will continue to flout the rule of law.

  24. Who is telling Trump NOT to prosecute Kerry??? Whoever it is he should get rid of them ASAP!

  25. John Kerry should have been serving time in prison instead of anywhere in government. It’s not the first time he commits treason against this country, yet he’s somehow allowed to walk freely while a war hero like Mike Flynn has his life destroyed. What a shame!

  26. John Kerry is and always has been, one of the most anti-American
    traitors this country has ever endured. When will someone finally
    acknowledge this and have the guts to finally make him pay for
    all the damage he has done? He hides behind a gloriously expensive
    Democrat hair style and a very extensive vocabulary and a
    reliable leftist media to regally walk the halls of pseudo importance
    to continue to do great harm to this country while making fools
    of all those who give him accolades.

    He is a stooge of Iran. Wonder how much his personal fortune has
    increased as such.

  27. Kerry’s had enough, guys. We’re not going to prosecute. He’s had enough.

    We should start a “They’ve had enough” club for people Donald isn’t going to go after.

    Or, maybe we just wake up and see this guy for who he really is.

  28. John Kerry should just quit the US and move to Iran. Actually Kerry moving anywhere outside of the US would be fine with me…..and a lot of others as well.

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