Despicable: Masked Antifa thugs caught on VIDEO in ANOTHER attack [Updated]

Here’s another attack that was captured by Antifa thugs from Portland.

There’s not a lot of confirmed information about this attack, just the video making the rounds.

Ted Cruz has called for a federal investigation into why the mayor of Portland appeared to give Antifa full rein on their streets to attack whomever they wanted.

UPDATE:

Here’s another video of the attack, h/t to the guy who gave it to us:

Here’s our first post on the attack on Andy Ngo.

Here’s the second post on the attack on Andy Ngo.

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353 thoughts on “Despicable: Masked Antifa thugs caught on VIDEO in ANOTHER attack [Updated]

  1. If it’s within his powers, I think Attorney General Barr should come down on the Portland Mayor and Police Chief with a sledge hammer. The citizens of Portland should be protected from Antifia which is nothing but a terrorist group.

    1. Agreed because the good tax paying people including shop owners of Portland can’t even enjoy their city as the Mayor and PD have turned it over to these thugs. Michelle Malkin has all different videos linked on her twitter feed surrounding this crime and as she said all eyes are on you Portland police.

  2. Thank God this was captured on video. Who would believe it otherwise?

    By the way, here is a recap of the three people arrested. Note the “charges:”
    ———————
    Gage Halupowski, 23, on charges of second-degree assault and assault on a public safety officer.

    James K. Stocks, 21, on the charge of harassment.

    Maria C. Dehart, 23, on the charge of second-degree disorderly conduct and harassment.
    ———————-
    Yeah, that was some “harassment” alright. :exclamation:

  3. Not to be an alarmist, but this older guy in Portland stands a good chance of dying from a subdural hematoma in the near future. I’m praying for him.

      1. As he should be, preferably a Neurosurgical Center. The real danger of a subdural is a second “bump on the head”, even a slight one can lead brain swelling resulting in coma and death. Doesn’t mean it’s going to happen. but the risks are higher.

  4. Aren’t the azz wipes so brave beating an elderly man.
    This BS needs to stop, now !
    My heart goes out to the poor guy the police wouldn’t even help ! I’m glad Senator Cruz is stepping up but much more needs to be done to stop these POS gangs.

  5. Our in-house troll seems to think dozens and dozens of Antifa thugs in riot gear have no organization and just show up randomly. Lol

  6. Antifa has been declared by DoJ & FBI as a domestic terrorist organization, correct?

    Why hasn’t the feds gone in and cleaned house with these terrorists…and I mean clean house!!!

  7. Not to be an alarmist, but this older guy in Portland stands a good chance of dying from a subdural hematoma in the near future. I’m praying for him.

      1. As he should be, preferably a Neurosurgical Center. The real danger of a subdural is a second “bump on the head”, even a slight one can lead brain swelling resulting in coma and death. Doesn’t mean it’s going to happen. but the risks are higher.

  8. Go to Youtube and do simple searches of “antifa protesters”

    Amazing how many different incidents in Portland of Antifa engaging in violence and insulting police while the police just stood there doing nothing.!This has obviously been bubbling up and police inaction has emboldened these terrorists. What a disgrace! I thought Berkley was bad!

  9. Aren’t the azz wipes so brave beating an elderly man.
    This BS needs to stop, now !
    My heart goes out to the poor guy the police wouldn’t even help ! I’m glad Senator Cruz is stepping up but much more needs to be done to stop these POS gangs.

  10. Our in-house troll seems to think dozens and dozens of Antifa thugs in riot gear have no organization and just show up randomly. Lol

    1. Both sides are somewhat organized. Neither showed up randomly. And all were ready (and hoping) for a fight.

      Idiots all around.

        1. Yes. See the links I provided below. There are photos of the old guy wielding a retractable baton. And even in the video snippet posted he can be seen advancing into the antifa crowd and with his hands locked around an antifa, from behind. Leaves little doubt he showed up looking for a fight.

          Not saying he should have been bloodied or hit with a cane, but there is little or doubt he was a willing participant in the violence.

          And the other guy was involved in multiple skirmishes as well.

        1. This game of hangman has gone on too long, please choose a letter and complete your turn.

          Little Or_l _nnie

        2. You are welcome. You too may want to review the photos and videos other than what is above if you are all interested in the facts.

          1. @dr-strangelove I’m like @nc checks and balances, AT trolls on gender as well as, but nevertheless, her behavior is not very lady like.

            1. @Abe I’ve always wondered, because until she told me different, I presumed that she was a guy.

    2. Abe , I think that nut case is one of the morons that was here before in disguise.

      1. @proud-nana I wouldn’t be surprised. A few trolls here just want to disrupt and put doubt that Antifa is a major threat when all we’ve seen so far is Antifa domestic terrorism.

      1. the copyright owner disabled it from playing on other websites. it is still there on youtube.

  11. Go to Youtube and do simple searches of “antifa protesters”

    Amazing how many different incidents in Portland of Antifa engaging in violence and insulting police while the police just stood there doing nothing.!This has obviously been bubbling up and police inaction has emboldened these terrorists. What a disgrace! I thought Berkley was bad!

  12. Here are a series of photos of the event. In a number of the photos police officers are visible. https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2019/06/proud-boys-antifa-plan-to-protest-in-downtown-portland-on-saturday.html Unfortunately it looks like people on both sides came to do battle, which is just stupid and pointless in my opinion. Even the poor old guy with the white beard came armed and ready to battle. Scroll down to the almost the end, photos 103/107 and 107/107 and you will see the old guy with the white beard. He is wielding what looks like a retractable metal baton, the kind sold at weapons and self-defense sites and made by companies like Guard Dog and Smith and Wesson.

    And here’s a link to some other other footage, including a video showing the guy with the red beard (he also shows up in some photos). https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2019/06/proud-boys-antifa-plan-to-protest-in-downtown-portland-on-saturday.html The video to which I refer is near the bottom and starts with a guy in gray on the ground who is getting kicked. Note that the guy on the ground is the same one at the top of the page who has a shirtless guy in a headlock.

    This reminds me of British football hooligans. Both sides are idiots and come ready to fight.

    1. Well then it was a lucky thing that this guy was hit from behind while a couple of folks held him other wise he may have been able to defend himself and/or actually injured those two poor masked fellas with the crowbars whacking him in the back or the head?

      1. he had ahold of an antifa around the waste and from behind while he was being hit in the back with a cane. there is better video out there than this clip.

    2. @T_oll I carry concealed when I’m not at work. Does that mean that I’m ready to do battle?

        1. I agree. But if you show up at a place where you know violence is going to occur and you are with weapon and ready to rumble, then those terms sort of lose a bit of their meaning to me. Also in order to make the determination we would need to see the beginning, and of course the clips do not start at the beginning.

          Not saying he deserved to get hit from behind or with a cane, but he was by no means an innocent bystander.

      1. Do you bring it to places you know will very likely erupt in violence? At such events, do you engage in close range face=to=face stare=offs with your enemies, like boxers before a fight? Do you draw your weapon and wade into crowds of hostile people?

        If so then, yes, you would be ready to do battle.

        1. @T_oll You’re inventing a hypothetical situation merely to bolster your inane argument. I don’t look for trouble, but I’m ready for it.

    3. A few points:

      One — having a weapon does not necessarily mean that someone came to fight. It could also mean that they came to DEFEND themselves against others who wish to fight with them. Indeed, the caption notes that the man in question is trying to hit someone who is spraying him with pepper spray. That sounds like self-defense.

      Two — I have not yet seen videos of people going up to Antifa and STARTING fights with them. I have seen MANY videos of antifa STARTING fights with others.

      Three — I believe antifa’s position is that it is illegitimate for the Proud Boys to march in Portland. But they have no right or authority to enforce that position.

      Four — it’s the Police’s job to make sure that violence like this does not happen in general — and certainly not in broad daylight in public areas. They need to keep the peace and it does not look like they are doing a very good job of that.

      Finally — it could be that both sides came to rumble and tumble. But it could also be that one side came to be authoritarian thugs and the others to lawfully exercise their right of free assembly and that they are prepared to DEFEND that right given that the local authorities won’t do so. The second option fits more in the bits and peaces of evidence I’ve seen than the idea that it’s two sides just looking to rumble.

      NOTE, by the way — this does not mean that I agree with the Proud Boys, what they stand for, etc. I actually know very little about them.

      1. @M I heard the following extended interview with Gavin McInnes of the Proud Boys on Red Pilled America, and I think they – not Antifa, the authoritarian thugs – fit into your fifth and final point.

        It’s a long podcast, but worth the listen. Hope you can find the time to check this out:

        https://redpilledamerica.com/blog/episode-20/

        Btw, all the Red Pilled America podcasts (various subjects) are really fantastic.

        1. Sorry, but I won’t be able to listen to the interview, but I would like to understand better the point you are trying to make. Do you mean that the Proud Boys came also to rumble or that they came to exercise their right to free assembly (and, if need be, defend that right if the police won’t do so)?

          A quote or two from the interview would also be helpful.

          Thanks.

          1. Sorry @M I wasn’t more clear! I meant the PBs were there to exercise their right to free assembly AND defend that right if need be.

            The interview is on a podcast so I can’t quote from it, unfortunately. But Red Pilled America is an excellent podcast and this one was just one of their many eye-opening ones. They are easy and free to download. I hope you give them a chance.

            1. Thanks for clarifying.

              That’s definitely the impression I’ve been given by every video or report I’ve seen on antifa and PB.

      2. @M, Thanks for your thoughtful reply. To briefly address your points in order:
        One – True that there is a difference, but when one arms oneself for an event where violence is likely to occur and then stands off against the other side like a boxer before a fight (as this guy did), then pulls that weapon and wades into he the other side, that line is extremely blurry, at best.
        And I agree it “sounds like self defense” but the question is who is the one defending? In one of the videos you can see the old man getting sprayed with pepper spray but at the time he seems to be advancing toward the person who is spraying him. If some guy is coming at you with a metal baton, then pepper spray “self defense” isn’t it? Likely both sides thought their use of weapons was “justified.” In reality though, both sides seem to have been looking for a fight and found one.

        Two – Have you not noticed that all the videos posted on websites such as this one curiously start in the middle of melees, just as a non-antifa is starting to get beat? Why do you suppose that is? If you went to antifa supporting websites I’ll be you find the same thing in reverse. (Or take a look at some of the Charlotte video, including the murder video of the alt-right guys running over left-wing protestors.) I will concede that at events such as this, though, it is usually the right wing getting beat up, in large part because they are usually outnumbered by tenfold at least. And those doing the beating are despicable and should be prosecuted. They are stupid too because they are playing into the hands of the provocateurs.

        But do you really believe that no one on the right is going there looking for a fight? Take the video here, http://s.oregonlive.com/qZiyfID, titled “CONTENT WARNING: A second video shows . . . “). The guy who is getting beaten at the beginning of the video is the same guy who is pictured at the top of the page and has someone in a headlock! And by the end of the video he is about to go “one-on-one” with an unmasked antifa (with the guy with the red beard looking on). So is this guy a completely innocent victim too? How about the guy with the beard? Or is it fair to say they were knowingly engaging in a violent situation where there was a good chance there was going to be a beatdown, one way or another?

        Three – I agree. Antifa has no right or authority to enforce that position and the police should do a better job of isolating and protecting protestors from counter protestors. Unfortunately that would take cooperation from the protesters on the right, yet peaceful protests are the last thing that the “free-speech” protestors want. Surely you can see that these battles serve their purposes, where peaceful protests wouldn’t. This is a song and dance. Being a victim sells. Antifa is just stupid enough to repeatedly fall for it..

        Four – Again I agree. But, again, that is NOT what the protestors on the right want. They aren’t interested in peaceful protest because their only message is that antifa is violent and repressing them. They need to be victims. They need the violence for the videos, otherwise they’ve got no message. Take the reporter who got beat up. Not just once but twice prior the actual assault, he had gone to the police and claimed he had been assaulted because he got hit with some milkshake. (Not cement, milkshake.) The police are having trouble not laughing at him in the videos. Yet he kept going back into he heart of the antifa marchers. Not on the sidelines, or at a distance or with other reporters, but right into the middle of them. He should never have been punched and whoever punched him should be prosecuted, and it is despicable. There is no excuse. There is also little doubt that he went there planning to be victim and was going to portray himself as a victim regardless of what happened. He just got more than he bargained for.

        1. The problem is that I’ve seen many videos where clearly antifa are instigating violence — both physical and verbal.

          I’ve seen protests where they are throwing fire-crackers at the other side — when the other side is standing there and doing nothing.

          I’ve seen them ‘directing’ traffic and verbally assault and physically intimidate elderly drivers who didn’t ‘obey’ their ‘orders’.

          I have seen videos where they sucker punch someone they don’t like.

          I’ve heard them interviewed and openly say that they initiate violence.

          And I’ve just seen a video of Ngo being brutally attacked all the while acting in a totally non-threatening manner while one person after the other attacks and taunts him. Now, I have no idea what happened 30 seconds before he was attacked — but during the attack he was certainly in no way threatening or acting violent against any of his attackers.

          And much, much more…

          As such, antifa has no credibility in my eyes.

          Now, if you want to argue that the other side is ‘provoking’ antifa — then I need some serious evidence – not merely the suggestion that perhaps they started it or that maybe the video has been edited not showing the part where they were provoked. If you have a link to actual videos showing the opposite, then please post the links (not to a page with 100+ photos, but a direct link to direct evidence that really antifa is merely responding to violence, not starting it).

          I need this because a) antifa’s record speaks against them and b) the viciousness of the violence witness multiple times by antifa that day.

          Now, in terms of coming armed to the protest…

          Arming oneself is not in and of itself a provocation so long as one is not using that weapon in a menacing and intimidating fashion.

          Wading into a group of people from antifa is also not a provocation — again, unless one is doing so in a threatening or intimidating manner.

          In terms of the video link you sent…

          I couldn’t find it on that page (and I looked twice). If you can send me a direct link to the video that would be helpful.

          Also, people don’t get beat up because they are outnumbered — if the group of people are peaceful and don’t attack anyone. There are many protests where one side outnumbers the other and no one gets beat up.

          In terms of ‘cooperation from the protesters on the right’ — again, can I have some evidence please. Not suggestions or theoretical possibilities — interviews, statements, pictures, videos that clearly show that they are there to disturb the peace and refuse to carry out a peaceful and lawful protest if given the chance to do so.

          A picture of one guy holding another guy in a headlock is not such evidence — because that easily could be in response to being attacked.

          Finally, I believe that purposely throwing a milkshake on someone is assault — even if it is just a milkshake. If the police are laughing at him in the videos — then they should be fined or fired and proper policeman who know how to do their job should take their place.

          And the idea that he went there because he ‘planned to be the victim’ is (to put it mildly) a rather callous and heartless statement. For starters, you have no idea what his motivations are. Secondly, a reporter should be able to cover a protest or march from within the protest without a) getting brutally assaulted and b) having his motivations questioned (or somehow suggesting that that makes him a partial accomplice in the crime committed against him).

          1. Sounds like you’ve seen a lot of videos of antifa behaving badly. That doesn’t surprise me because: 1) Lots of antifa behave badly; 2) those types of videos make the cut at websites such as this one. But let’s get this straight. I’m not defending antifa. I’m not defending the person or persons who punched Ngo or stole his camera. My position is that there are plenty of bad actors on both sides, and the behavior of the one doesn’t excuse the bad behavior of the other.

            If you don’t find evidence of alt-right violence, you just aren’t looking. There are videos going the other way. Some of them quite brutal. The murder in Charlotte being the most obvious one. Deliberately mowing down pedestrians with your car is well beyond milkshake throwing. Another is the fairly recent incident in NYC by Proud Boys in NYC, who beat the crap out of a outnumbered protesters outside a Gavin McGinnes event. And since this is Portland, let’s not forget the reason for much of this heightened hostility. Jeremy Joseph Christian murdered two people on an above ground train in Portland and tried to murder a third.

            Christian was a local alt-righter who had been an active participant at these “free speech” events as a member of Patriot Prayer (PP claimed, after the fact, that they had kicked him out, but he was right there with them at there events.) He was on the bus, verbally berating a 17 year old Muslim girl (wearing a hijab) and her 16 year old black friend, yelling that the First Amendment gave him the right to do so, and yelling about how immigrants were ruining America, telling them to go back to Saudi Arabia . . . you know, the usual alt-right memes, only up close and personal. They were scared so they moved away from him, toward the back. He tried to follow and three bystanders stepped up to form a barrier so he could not get to them. They asked him to get off the bus, a few words were exchanged, he pulled a knife and murdered two of them and seriously injured the third.

            I’m not aware of any videos. But there were plenty of witnesses. And when you tell a Portlander that Patriot Prayer is non-violent and all about free speech, this is what they will reference. And when Portlanders talk about keeping fascism out of their community, this is what they have in mind. You cannot intelligently discuss the hostility in Portland toward these groups without understanding that, in their opinion, these “free speech” protestors have blood on their hands.

            Now, of course, you cannot hold others responsible for the acts of this monster. And of course violence does not justify violence. But in their minds, hateful words and hateful actions were most certainly linked, and the message they received was that, if you stand in the way of those spouting hateful words – as did the three victims on the train – you had better be prepared for the violence to escalate quickly. At least that is the way they see it. I don’t agree.

            There are plenty of other examples of aggressive behavior by the right in Portland and outside of Portland. Look around and you’ll find the videos. And incidents of violent, politically motivated crime by the far right dwarfs that of the far left. It is an unfortunate fact, but a fact nonetheless.

            I’ve seen videos of right wing aggressiveness in Portland, but would have to find them again. If you are genuinely interested I will.

            1. I’m genuinely interested.

              And, of course — we can also point to the mass shooting in a black church and two synagogues as well. It is genuinely and seriously frightening.

              With that said — a few points.

              Charlottesville was almost 2 years ago — I think it’s time to stop referencing it every single time there is violence by the left-wing. I’m not trying to down-play it in any way (and I think what happened is horrible). It’s just that it can’t be that every time there is violence from antifa (or groups like them) people make a reference to Charlottesville.

              Secondly, it’s always possible to find individuals who are violent. A Trump supporter sent letter bombs to all sorts of Dems. A Bernie Sanders supporter shot up a number of Republicans.

              What worries me about antifa is that it seems like a violent movement — not just individual acts of violence. Actually, it’s more than that – it’s the the violence in the name of being against violence. It’s the fascism in the name of being against fascism. It’s the oppressive nature of the whole thing — it reminds me of darker days in Europe were ‘noble’ ideologies lead to horrible oppression and suffering.

              Of course there are other groups that are also violent and frightening —
              such as many of the neo-Nazi groups and ideologies (many of who seem to be armed to the hilt).

              But I don’t think that groups like antifa help matters at all. In fact, I think they make the situation much worse. In essence, each group just riles the other side up. And I, for one, am quite worried about where it will all lead.

              1. Once again, I am not defending antifa or any use of violence to try to shut down or control expression. It is not only morally and legally reprehensible, it is counter-productive and just plain stupid. There is a P.R. game being played and that is where antifa is getting its real beatdown.

                In my opinion, Patriot Prayer (including Haley Adams) is essentially a gang of street thugs. They exist for confrontation on the streets, and they seem to spend all their time harassing, hassling, threatening and trying to start trouble with “antifa,” as well as any groups that they think might have something to do with antifa. They are essentially bullies claiming to be victims.

                One example is their latest campaign of “demasking.” When they see someone in a mask they physically remove it from the person’s face. They do this whether or not those being “demasked” are involved in a protest, or even anywhere near a protest. Here they are bragging about it in a facebook video where they grab a kid from behind so he can’t fight back, and then pull down his mask, then move on to the next kids, and demand those kids take off their masks.

                https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPrayerUSA/posts/1866432403479678?comment_id=1869073799882205&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R%22%7D
                Forcibly grabbing people and removing their masks, or threatening people so they remove their masks, is NOT free speech. It is assault. And yet they’ve called for others to follow suit nationwide.

                And when they aren’t assaulting people, they are bullying them. Here they are bullying and hassling counter-protestors at what seems to be an otherwise peaceful pro-life March.
                https://youtu.be/UE4hYwllhFg?t=7

                The very idea that these people are interested in “free speech” without confrontation is a farce. Without the confrontation, they have literally nothing to say.

                As for Charlottesville, it remains extremely relevant because these supposed “free speech” rallies are a direct offshoot and attract the same sort of right wing creep, like the right wing creep who murdered the people on the train.

                By the way, in the last video the PP gang keeps talking about how antifa jumped and assaulted a black member of PP. In actuality he got beat up in a street fight between PP and antifa. Of course PP claims antifa started it but one PP member recalled that it started like this:

                “So this guy, he stands up in front of Tiny and he wants to fight Tiny, so Tiny’s like, well let’s go. And I step to the right of Tiny and there’s a guy coming at me smiling. I said, OK well you want something to smile about? And I put my knuckles in his face.”

                Another (“Tiny” a well known alt-righter who has been arrested for numerous brawls) brags about how PP won the fight, albeit at least in part by pulling a gun (7:10):
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMRjGmFfw9k.

                Since then, PP and Haley Adams have been using their black member as a pawn to claim this was a “hate crime,” and to harass anyone they please.

                1. I couldn’t see the Facebook video (it wouldn’t play). I watched the one of them ‘harassing’ someone (I think it’s a very loose use of the word harass).

                  I do not think this is at all comparable to what Antifa does.

                  Now, I do agree that people should not forcibly remove masks.

                  On the other hand, I think it’s about time to outlaw protests in masks or to have a much more serious punishment for a crime committed while wearing a mask — as they are enabling antifa to be violent and aggressive.

                  I have not seen any video yet that comes even close to what antifa is doing. They may not like the PB’s — and it could be that I wouldn’t like them either if I knew more about them.
                  But I have not seen anything to warrant the violence against them or justify antifa’s actions or hold the PBs in any way responsible for the violence that antifa uses against them.

                  Now, it could be that PB (and PP) are all too willing to fight back — and want the confrontation. But as far as I can tell — there would be no confrontation if antifa would just act lawful and not start up with them.

                  In other words, perhaps they want the confrontation because they like fighting. Perhaps they like the confrontation because they do not like being bullied by the far-left. Perhaps it’s a bit of both.

                  But it makes no difference in terms of responsibility. Indeed, the whole idea of having to determine their motivation is ridiculous. If they have the right motivation it is self-defense, if they have the wrong motivation it is not self-defense.

                  And guilt by association is not guilt. If there are bad dudes within PBs then they should be prosecuted just like anyone else. But if all that PB and PP are doing is showing up at a protest where they get attacked – then it is the attackers who bear responsibility — regardless of their motivation and regardless of whether or not we like all or most of the people in the original march.

                  And let’s add — it’s not just the PBs that antifa targets — they have a very broad range of people that they try to shut down — which I think Alan Dershowitz very eloquently states here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mq7A6XyJH4

                2. They must have disabled it. Regardless you can see that it is assault because the background photo shows that they have the kid in a bear hug hold from behind, which is an assault in and of itself. By the way this may help explain why, when the old guy got bloodied this past week, he had an antifa in a similar bear hug hold from behind.

                  Here’s another video.
                  https://youtu.be/iUVdI1wZKMs?t=35

                  In case they get smart and disable this one too, at (0:35) it shows Joey Gibson and his PP thugs rushing across the street at a leftist video blogger. Part is from the perspective of the blogger, but they cut his video after they begin assaulting him and knock his camera. They then cut to their own footage. Even in the video THEY released, you can see them surrounding the guy putting their hands on him, pushing him, and trying to grab him, until a store owner allows him to escape into the store.

                  Some of them then pursue another masked kid down the street. At (1:40) one PP (in black with an iPad camera) gets around behind him and blocks his retreat, and bounces him back toward the crowd. This is assault, among other things. Of course, the PP camera guy falsely blames the guy he assaulted, which is standard practice for these guys.

                  They then begin verbally berating him and physically threatening him, until a police officer shows up. So then they verbally berate the police officer too. Ironically they demand that the kid remove his mask, yet some of the PP are also wearing masks! This too is typical.

                  Keep in mind, this is THEIR video. They posted it, and they are proud of this behavior, and encouraging others to behave the same!

                  And this is NOT guilt by association. These aren’t rogue elements! Joey Gibson, the founder of Patriots Prayer and the sponsor of all these rallies not only posted the video, he lead the charge across the street! And the woman you hear is Haley Adams, the co-sponsor of this latest rally!

                  You mention bullying, and that is a perfect word for what is ongoing in that video. But who is being bullied in this video? And who is it that is doing the bullying in the video of them hassling people at the pro-life rally? And who is bulling in the non-working video of them demasking the kid who was just walking into an event. And who is doing the bullying when they show up again and again to scream at the house where the DSA meetings are held? (By the way, the house has been vandalized multiple times, and of course PP/PB plays the victim card here as well, claiming that DSA vandalized their own meeting place to make PP look bad. Here is the video, posted by Haley Adams, with the logo that says “@ Antifa House” which is not accurate. The vandals, though, painted “Antifa House” on the side of the house. As usual it is “blame the victim.”
                  https://youtu.be/x_Y98e7mr9k

                  By the way, I’m still not defending any violence conducted by antifa or anyone to shut down protected speech, and have and will continue to condemn it. And Dershowitz is correct in this regard. The left shouldn’t support the use of violent tactics to stifle speech, and I don’t think the mainstream left does support it.

                  But how about the opposite? Why are conservatives standing with scumbag thugs like Patriot Prayer and Proud Boys? These creeps are very far from any acceptable form of “conservative.” They are street thugs. Skinheads with hair, constantly creating trouble, only they cry victim after every confrontation. You keep making excuses for them, but there is no excuse for such behavior.

                3. I think there are a few reasons why people defend PP and PB. One reason is that the level and type of bullying that you have shown is nothing compared to what we have seen from antifa and the likes.

                  I have not seen anything on the level of what happened at Berkely when Milo wanted to speak there — with hundreds of masked people, all dressed in black descended in a organized manner to physically and violently shut down his speech (smashing windows, starting fires, etc).

                  And it’s not just Milo — but anyone that they have unilaterally declared unacceptable (and they have a very broad definition).

                  Now note, I personally have never heard or read anything from Milo — and the little I have heard about him sounds like a style that I personally would find objectionable. But shutting him down like that reminds me of the type of tactics that old-school European fascists and communists used to use.

                  As such, any attempt to find moral equivalence between antifa and PP/PB meets push-back. Yes, there may be violent and even murderous people in their midst — BUT AS A GROUP, I have seen no evidence that they are doing anything on the level of antifa.

                  Indeed, the ONLY group I see them take on AS A GROUP is antifa — and even then I usually see them responding — not initiating. The clips that you showed me don’t compare to hitting people over the head with crowbars, throwing fire-crackers at them, spraying them mace, etc. Things I see time and again from antifa AND STARTING from antifa.

                  In short, it seems like PP and PB are often times on the front-lines pushing back against antifa — and they win admiration for that.

                  At the same time, it’s hard to generate a great deal of sympathy for a guy from antifa being bullied by a group of guys from PP/PB when they (antifa) are consistently bullying and intimidated others in the most disgusting
                  and obnoxious fashion.

                  If I had video of PP/PB regularly going around the country and randomly bullying and intimidating anyone that they disagreed with, you’d have a stronger point. But all of the clips I’ve seen involve them taking on antifa.

                  As such, it puts the whole matter in a different context. Of course, there is a right and wrong way to take them on — but it still blunts the issue.

                  But I think the most important reason why people defend PP/PB is that time and again we see antifa starts up with them (PP/PB) when they (PP/PB) are exercising their lawful right of free assembly. At that point, it does not matter if I like or do not like PP/PB or think that the people in the group or good or bad people — violent or peaceful.

                  At that point in time, they are doing nothing wrong and are perfectly within their rights. For antifa to illegally and violently try and block them from exercising that right is not only objectionable, but is a direct threat to the fundamental freedoms of the US.

                  Antifa has no moral, legal or political authority to decide that some groups have the right to free assembly and others do not — that some people or individuals have the right to appear in public and others do not.

                  That is a constitutionally protected right — in the very first amendment. It’s up there with freedom of religion, speech and of the press.

                  And for them to self-righteously, violently and unilaterally declare that they are going to impose a different order is a basic threat to that right.

                  And so, PP/PB get defended for the simple reason that we value the constitution and the rights enumerated within. To defend their right to freely assemble is to protect the constitution and the rights enumerated within.

                4. You keep saying that the level of violence isn’t proportionate. What are you talking about? Alt right has murdered people in Portland, and elsewhere. A Portland PP/PBer murdered people trying to defend a Muslim girl. So what are you talking about? “Tiny” who I discuss above, has been arrested multiple times for sucker punching and beating up antifa. He brags incessantly about beating up antifa as do most PP/PB. It is even in the PB rules of conduct! Politically motivated violence from the right dwarfs the political violence committed by the left. It is not even close. So why do you keep saying this?

                  This doesn’t justify antifa violence, but this idea that they are somehow more violent that the people they are fighting? Pure fiction. Why do you keep making excuses for them?

                  And when it comes to the far right, you repeatedly ignore the actions that individuals take in the name of the group, but when it comes to antifa you blame the group for the actions of individuals. Why is that?

                  You label everyone who looks like antifa as a violent thug, and frankly this just isn’t true. A few are, but most are not. The people in those videos who are being harassed and demasked because they like antifa, but that doesn’t mean they did anything violent. In fact, many of them wear masks because the they are cowards and scared, and because if they are identified while standing up to PB/PP, violently or not, their lives will become living hell. They will be constantly under attack. But being cowards and scared doesn’t make them criminals. They have rights too. And bullying and demasking and heckling them is wrong, even if they look like antifa.

                  To paraphrase you, PP and PB have “no moral, legal or political authority to decide that some groups have the right to free assembly and others do not — that some people or individuals have the right to appear in public and others do not.” Yet they have decided, as they often proclaim, “if you wear a mask you are one of them.”

                  What it seems to come down to is that just don’t like antifa so you defend the criminals who attack and abuse them. You seem to think that, because of the actions of a few, they all have it coming. That’s incredibly hypocritical.

                  You have no value for their constitutional rights. Only those who you agree with.

                5. Yes, there are violent and murderous people within the alt-right and within PB/PP and there are numerous alt-right wing organizations that are violent in their very nature. I have yet to see, though that PB/PP is an inherently violent organization. From what I can tell, they are more of a resistance movement to antifa — standing up to them and willing to fight back (with members, perhaps many, crossing the line from fighting-back to initiating violence).

                  In terms of the sucker punch being in their rules of conduct. I did a quick Google search and found nothing. Indeed, the only sucker punching I have seen are numerous videos of people from antifa sucker-punching people they don’t like (not just PB/PP). So, please show me where it is in the PP/PB to sucker punch people — if it is, I’m 100% opposed.

                  I don’t know what you mean about politically motivated violence from the right dwarfing political violence from the left? The right wing violence I am aware of over the last few years in the US are white supremacists murdering worshipers in a church and two different synagogues, the murders at Chancellorsville and Portland.

                  I’m not sure that dwarfs the various murders of policemen in New York, Louisiana and Dallas, the Bernie Sanders supporter who tried to murder a bunch of Republican Congressman – or the violence we just saw against Andrew Ngo (which led to a brain hemorrhage which is literally life-threatening and could have killed him).

                  So, in terms of extreme, murderous violence which is politically motivated – there are unfortunately examples from both sides — and it is more than worrisome.

                  The same goes historically — both the Nazis and the Soviets were horrible, murderous regimes (although economically speaking both were of the left — just one were national socialists and the other universal communists).

                  In terms of low-level violence, though — I do not think there is a question that the left is far more violent than the right these days.

                  * The attack on Trump supporters during the primaries
                  * Maxine Waters calling for harassing Trump supporters in public
                  * Hillary Clinton’s claim that you can’t be civil with Republicans
                  * Eric Holder stating that when they go low you kick them
                  * the man who kicked a pro-life supporter
                  * the attack of a conservative activist at U of C Berkeley
                  * shutting down conservative speakers on College campuses across the country
                  * a NYT fiction story about a secret service member assassinating Trump
                  * Madona saying that she has dreamt many times of blowing up the White House
                  * threatening messages left on Susan Collins voice mail
                  * the anti-semitism on US campuses
                  * Telling a women that he is glad that her husband died in 9/11
                  * the numerous videos of sucker punches from antifa
                  * throwing fire-crackers at protesters that you don’t like
                  * directing traffic and running after elderly drivers
                  * the incessant and vulgar swearing and name calling at different people
                  * And more…

                  That doesn’t mean that there is no low-level violence from the right — just that it pales in comparison to what we are seeing today from the left.

                  And by the way — now may be a good time to note my voting record in presidential elections:

                  92: Bush Senior
                  96: Clinton
                  00: Don’t remember
                  04: Not sure if I voted (but if I did, I assume it was for Bush)
                  08: Obama
                  12: Romney
                  16: Trump
                  20: Trump (already made up my mind)

                  In other words, if you are looking to pin your argument that I am just biased towards the right wing — then you have the wrong guy.

                  In terms of ‘pure fiction’…

                  I have given you many opportunities to provide clear evidence. You haven’t. You have videos of someone taking a cell phone away, taking off a mask, getting into heated arguments with people, etc. On the other side, you have people hitting other people over the head with crowbars, macing people, punching them in the head with fiber-glass nuckles, throwing fire crackers at people, storming U of C Berkeley — and much more.

                  You may see the groups as comparable — but I just don’t find the evidence that you offer supports that claim.

                  In terms of blaming the group for the actions of individuals…

                  * When 600 plus people march on a building in Berkeley in a coordinated attack — that is not blaming the group for the actions of individuals.

                  * When antifa marches as a group to VIOLENTLY prevent PB from having a constitutionally protected right of assembly — that is not blaming the group for the actions of individuals.

                  * When Andrew Ngo gets attacked in public and NO ONE from antifa tries to protect and numerous people join in the attack in one way or other (punching, foaming, throwing ‘milkshakes’, throwing eggs, taunting, throwing garbage) — that is not the actions of a few individuals. That is a group attack.

                  In terms of why they wear masks…

                  Antifa wears masks BOTH because they don’t want to be counter-targeted AND because they don’t want to be caught when doing something illegal (such as attacking people): https://youtu.be/cy1eRCYS08w?t=152

                  Now, if all that antifa did was go online and expose neo-nazis and racists – then I’d have no problem with that. But they go way beyond that, taking the law into their own hand: https://youtu.be/cy1eRCYS08w?t=371

                  And they have a very broad definition of who is a nazi and fascist. This is a very slippery slope — a justification to take the law into your own hand coupled with a broad definition of who is a racist and fascist.

                  What’s more — if they think that there violence won’t lead to more counter-violence, then they are extremely naive and foolish.

                  One last point — it’s worth noting that one of the major causes of the recent rise in neo-Nazi and white supremacist violence in the States is the politicization of race and identity from the left and the results that that lead to.

                  * Hands Up Don’t Shoot
                  * The various race riots (Ferguson, Baltimore
                  * The gunning down of cops in NY, Dallas, etc.
                  * The constant attempt to pin any and all shootings of a black guy by a white cop as racist (regardless of whether or not the evidence justified the claim)

                  All this and more lead to various responses. One response was an increase in neo-nazi, white nationalist violence — such as the 2015 shooting in a black church.

                  For antifa to then respond to that violence with more violence is simply going to send us down a very dark and dangerous road.

                6. “I have yet to see, though that PB/PP is an inherently violent organization.”
                  – Except for that pesky double murder by one of the PP activists, during his “free speech,” anti-immigrant, anti-liberal rant.
                  -And their leader and his band of thugs running down people with masks to threaten them and/or physically assault them by removing their masks.
                  -And their sidekick, “Tiny” (who is also PB, most are) who has been jailed multiple times for street brawls and sucker punches.
                  Yeah, no violence there. The obvious strategy is to harass, berate, provoke antifa in order to get them to react with force, then get it on camera and pretend they were victims. But you think that’s fine, because antifa wears masks, I guess.

                  And that’s just PP. As for Proud Boys, you can’t be serious?

                  Mcinnes discussing PB violence requirement. Also discusses sucker punching a guy talking on the phone at NYC event in October.
                  https://youtu.be/_J_1Wqzqt4I?list=PLwV95EIdLbL9XpOUXvFq1E3iyLFMoyyjJ

                  Mcinnes bragging about same incident, Mike Cernovich and McInnes bragging about using violence. Clip of McInness sucker punching protester. Proud boys attacking protesters outside event.
                  othttps://youtu.be/QbPLD6WFuTM?list=PLwV95EIdLbL9XpOUXvFq1E3iyLFMoyyjJ

                  More footage of Proud Boys assaulting and attacking protesters (and lying to cops about it)
                  https://youtu.be/clhJT9HgjOE?list=PLwV95EIdLbL9XpOUXvFq1E3iyLFMoyyjJ

                  Extended footage of Proud Boys attacking and beating an few straggling protesters, then bragging about it.
                  https://youtu.be/IZaa6Dr4uzo?list=PLwV95EIdLbL9XpOUXvFq1E3iyLFMoyyjJ

                  Video of some of McInnes on air comments condoning violence.
                  https://youtu.be/G95qjjQaNho?list=PLwV95EIdLbL9XpOUXvFq1E3iyLFMoyyjJ

                  There’s more. But I’ll stop there, except to say that I didn’t say that “sucker punching” was in PB’s handbook, I said fighting and beating up antifa was. And it is, as discussed in the videos.

                  As Mcinnes says. He is in a war with antifa, and he sees violence is the only answer. Willing participants in wars are not victims.

                  As for Berkeley, McInnes was there to fight. Here is how he described the melee which occurred after their speakers finished, when they could have waited for the police to escort them out.

                  Instead of waiting for the police to come back, the crowd began fighting their way out. When they found an opening, they sent their women home and stayed to fight. Patriots beat the protesters mercilessly while dodging rocks and bricks and mace.

                  He wasn’t letting the cops handle it. He was there to fight.

                  When two groups of street thugs hate each other and want to fight, they fight. It is absurd to blame one side and absolve the other.

                  Your voting record? If you were old enough you’d have voted or Reagan, and before that Ford or Carter, etc. And not a single one of those presidents before this current one would have stuck up for thugs like PB/PP. Nor would they consider them the least bit Conservative or patriotic.

                  Political violence? In 2017 NPR did a “fact-check: report looking at antifa and some of the issues you raised:
                  https://www.npr.org/2017/06/16/533255619/fact-check-is-left-wing-violence-rising
                  Daily Caller didn’t like the portrayal of the far-right as violent so they did their own “fact check,” focusing on this statement: ““In the past 10 years when you look at murders committed by domestic extremists in the United States of all types, right-wing extremists are responsible for about 74 percent of those murders,” ”

                  https://dailycaller.com/2017/06/23/fact-check-is-the-far-right-largely-responsible-for-extremist-violence/

                  Read past their “Verdict” and look at the substance. Daily Caller did their own study:

                  TheDCNF conducted an independent analysis of domestic extremism for the same 10-year time frame. The analysis only includes instances where domestic extremists had a clear ideological motive.

                  The data from our analysis comes from the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism (START), a university research center partially funded by the Department of Homeland Security.

                  Our findings support the ADL statistic. Using their definition of right-wing extremists, we found that 92 percent of ideologically motivated homicide incidents were committed with a right-wing extremist or white supremacist motive.

                  Remember, this is the Daily Caller. The Daily Caller is acknowledging that 92% of the homicides were committed with a right wing extremist or white supremacist motive.

                  They also hmm and haw about the need to look at property crimes and such, but when it comes to understanding trends in violent crime, homicide is always used as the bellwether, for obvious reasons.

                  As for your examples, your approach is purely analysis by anecdote. You focus on the events that the far right has successfully exploited, and ignore or brush off everything else. The statistics show that in the battle between the far left and the far right, one side is taking the vast majority of the casualties. 92% according to the Daily Caller.

                7. If you were to argue that Black Lives Matters is a violent group because members of the group committed murder, I would disagree. If you wanted to argue that Bernie Sanders is violent because a supporter of his tried to murder a bunch of Republican Congressmen, I would disagree.

                  I do not think that you can attribute violence to a group because of the actions of individuals that adhere to and/or are members of the group. The same goes for PP (I now agree with you about PB — see below). Showing me that members of the group have acted violently is not in my mind any evidence that the group as a group is violent.

                  The closest you have shown is demasking members of antifa. Now, if antifa was not a violent group and was not using those masks to enable their violence in general and against PP in particular, I think you’d have a better point. But they are violent and they do use those masks to be violent and so I understand (although do not condone) why there would push back against the masks — even going so far as to physically remove them.

                  But that is a far cry (in a totally different league) from how antifa and other violent groups (KKK, Weather Underground, and many others) have used violence — and so I think the comparison is off.

                  Now, in terms of the video clips — here are my comments in the order that I watched the clips…

                  The video clip of Morgan and McInnes talking is finally some proof — particularly the end clip where he started fighting with a guy because he ‘antagonized’ him. Punching someone because they antagonize you is NOT acceptable — and the one who responds violently (in this case McInnes) is certaintly responsible for the violence.

                  On the other hand, it’s pretty naive for the left to think that they can go around insulting, cursing, being unbelievably obnoxious over and over again and violent and think that no one is going to respond violently even when violence is not called for. If you don’t want to rile up people like McInnes then the left needs to get back to civily arguing their point — otherwise people like McInnes will respond and it will not be pretty.

                  The first part of the clip, though, is only half-proof. Morgan RIGHTLY pushes McInnes on the 4th degree as ‘promoting violence’ — but the context is exactly what I’m talking about. Antifa RAIDS Berkeley and starts trashing the place — and then a group of 14 guys from PB walk into the middle of that mob (‘just for fun’). Now, I think that’s a ridiculous idea of fun, but I put any violence that ensures squarely on the sholders of antifa.

                  If you don’t want a group of 14 PBs walking into the middle of your riot and responding with violence when you attack them, then DON’T RIOT IN THE FIRST PLACE and DON’T ATTACK THEM when they walk into the middle of your group.

                  I do note, by the way, that you posted a number of clips from the same NYC evening. That pales in comparison to the dozens of clips of antifa violence. If you want to argue that it’s both sides — you have to bring comprable evidence for both sides.

                  The last clip is by far the most frightening — and you are absolutely right, they are a violent and dangerous group. ‘Choke him’, ‘assasinate you’, ‘we need more violence’, ‘get a gun and blow someones head off’ — horrible.

                  A few more observations:

                  * ‘We need more violence from the Trump people’.

                  * ‘I’m disappointed with Trump supporters for not punching enough’.

                  * ‘Conservatives never punched anyone in the face.’

                  That is a clear indication that in general, the right wing is not being so violent. In general, conservatives are NOT punching people in the face. The man who wants violence is disapointed that there isn’t violence coming from conservatives and the Trump supporters.

                  With that said — if antifa keeps up attacks like the ones we just saw in Portland (Ngo, the two other men), watch out — because I do not think the response will be pretty.

                  And note one of his questions: ‘can you say they throwing bricks, we should throw bricks?’.

                  Let’s ask — where would we be today if antifa did not use violence and intimidation (what if all they did was expose neo-nazis and klansman)? Would we have a group called the Proud Boys? Would McInnes be advocating violence? Perhaps, but I doubt it. I think they are a RESPONSE. A horrible and frightening response, but a response nonetheless. And if we let antifa keep up their thuggish tactics, I’m afraid that resonse is going to much worse than anything we have seen so far.

                  You wrote…

                  ‘When two groups of street thugs hate each other and want to fight, they fight. It is absurd to blame one side and absolve the other.’

                  I put the blame first and foremost on antifa — they have gotten us into this mess. With that said, you have convinced me about PB (not PP).

                  In terms of political violence — I think you are right that since the 90s (or perhaps even 80s), the number of people killed by the far-right has been significantly higher than by the left-wing. However, that doesn’t seem to me the case over the last 3 – 4 years. I think since about 2015 or so, we have seen an uptick in left-wing, murderous violence. I hope and pray it’s an exception, but nothing that I see from the left these days indicates that that is so.

                  What’s more, I think that one of the main reasons for that change is the rhetoric and tactics of the left during the Obama years — not to mention the over-reaction of the left to Trump getting elected.

                  Also, I should note, that the Daily Caller recorded 275 murders over a 10 year period in the entire United States. On the other hand, California recorded 1,830 murders in 2017 alone. Texas had the dubious honor of being number 2 at 1,412. In fact, 20 States had more than 275 murders in just 2017 alone.

                  And during a similar ten year period I think there was something like 170,000 murders in the US (although I can’t find the exact stat right now). Or, put otherwise, about 0.0016% of the murders committed during that time period were committed by white natioalist and the like.

                  Of course, even one murder is 1 too many.

                  But a little perspective — we do not have an epidemic of murderous far-right violence. That doesn’t mean the violence that does exist shouldn’t be dealt with and confronted. But it does mean that we are a far cry away from having to take to the streets and take the law in our own hands (aka antifa). What’s more, I’m afraid that the antics of groups like antifa will only make far-right murderous violence worse, not better.

                  And none of this changes the fact that when it comes to non lethal violence, the far left these days seems to be far more violent than the far right.

  13. I am sick and tired of these people getting away with this. How much more until something happens and someone responds with equal or greater force? Then the news stories will make them into the victim.

    If the police won’t do anything, this is clearly collusion between them and these people.

  14. Anyone seen a longer video? I am trying to figure out what the old guy is doing? Can anyone tell what he is doing? He definitely got hit with what looks like a cane, but he looks to have grabbed onto an antifa from behind. The guy with the red beard who tried to help him got pummeled.

  15. So what’s going to happen, when somebody is about to become a victim, like him, whips out the Sig Sauer P226, and guns down 12 terrorists, in 5 seconds? The media will make him out to be the bad guy, and the police, prosecution and “judge” will come for him, ignoring all witnesses and video evidence.

    “If you’re not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.” ― Malcolm X

    “The media’s the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent.” -Malcolm X

    I’m no Trump booster, but you can damned well be sure that he was right, when he said that the Press was the enemy of the People, because that’s exactly what they are. The Democratic Party, a party founded on the principles of Human rights abuses, violence and racism have found their newest paramilitary wing, after the Ku Klux Klan: ANTIFA, patterned straight from Benito Mussolini’s Blackshirts. They’re violent, fascist, terrorists and should most certainly be treated as violent, fascist terrorists. They cover themselves with slogans like “Black lives matter”, and “pay your fair share”, and “no Trump, no fascists, no KKK USA”, and every one of them is a lie. They couldn’t give a damn about Black people. They aren’t out for fairness, they’re out for outright French Revolution level theft, and if anyone is fascist, it’s these little criminal bastards. The FBI labels them a terrorist organization, and what has the FBI done about them? Nothing. What have the police done about them? Nothing. What has the government, at all levels, done about them? Nothing. These criminals have some people living in fear to walk their own neighborhoods and cities, when it’s THEM that should live in a perpetual state of governments ordering them rounded up like the common criminals they are, when they should fear police officers brutalizing them, as they have brutalized others; and they should live in fear of the common People, gunning them down in the streets like the sick dogs they are, as opposed to allowing themselves to become this terrorist outfit’s newest victim. The government doesn’t care about the People, and the corrupt court systems say that law enforcement is under no obligation to protect the People, in spite of pretty sayings like: “to protect, and to serve”. The responsibility to protect our own lives, is our own.

    “I just don’t believe that when people are being unjustly oppressed, that they should let someone else set rules for them, by which they can come out from under that oppression.” -Malcolm X

        1. @texas-chris Yeah, unlike the movies, people don’t die instantly from a knife wound.

      1. Gee that’s hilarious, especially given that a right wing nut with a knife murdered two people and tried to murder another when they tried to keep him from verbally berating and threatening a young Muslim girl. Even funnier because it was in Portland, and the creep was a member of the group who had this last rally.

        1. Hey Sizzurp. I’m impressed you actually we’re able to keep your latest manifesto under 500 characters. You’re showing great development.

          1. thanks. i’m learning that it makes no sense to write for adults when the reader has the mind of a slow child.

  16. There are reports of the FBI investigating ANTIFA for weapons purchases from Mexican Cartels. It’s officially Lapua time. And if LE is not on our side, they’re on ANTIFAs side.

  17. Apparently some troll below wants us to think that while the video shows a large number of Antifa wearing military gear, the police didn’t bother showing up to the area. lol They were there! They just didn’t give help to those that needed it.

    1. Oh well i guess it’s okay then that the police didn’t protect people who were being beaten bloody by these masked terrorists?

  18. If you live in Portland you should recall the Mayor and fire all the Police Officers who where in that Station refusing to to respond to citizens calling for help.

  19. I did not see any Police standing by,unless they were again standing by at their station.just does not make sense,Choose Law Enforcement to protect lives and Property and all they do is protect themselves and the Police Station.

      1. Well at the very least,declassify them as Crossing Guards or Traffic Control Officers,then they wold be able to direct traffic for the rioters.Thanks Chow

  20. The thugs responsible for the assaults should be held accountable to the full extent of the law. If law enforcement deliberately stood aside knowing of ongoing assaults, they should also be held accountable.

    1. Agreed, but sounds like there was an order to stand down so the person making that order should be held accountable. I am not going to blame officers for following orders, but I am going to blame those who they report to. Police Commissioner, sergeants, mayor, governor, etc.

      1. I disagree. If a police officer sits by watching folks get assaulted, orders or not, they have no business bring cops. The person who gave the orders should obviously be gone too.

        1. @ryan-o The mayor of Portland, Ted Wheeler, is also the Police Commissioner, so I would say the buck stops there.

          1. There are numerous folks in positions of power who have to answer for this stuff in that city, I’m sure. Cops shouldn’t sit idly by no matter the “orders”.

        2. Agreed. If a police officer is not enforcing the law or is aiding and abetting the perpetrators of a crime they are no longer law enforcement but thug criminals in uniform and are just as liable as any other criminal. They are no more required to follow an unlawful order any more than a military person is required to follow an unlawful order. They either agreed with harming innocent protestors or they are blatant scurvy cowards.

          1. I agree. If a policeman is unlucky enough to have a mayor or chief who is giving orders to him to stand by watching while citizens are being violently attacked by thugs, he should disregard that order and raise hell when he gets in trouble for it. Then when he’s fired, he should sue the hell out of everybody running that town! Then of course he’d have to be prepared to relocate to another city where the mayor is a conservative who believes the police should actually enforce the law! Might have to relocate to another state but it’d be worth it to be able to take pride in his job and not sell out his principles to the bad guys!

        3. I agree with you to a point and I would hope those police officers just following orders would be in the process of relocating to another place where good police work is rewarded. Those who stay should break with ranks and do the job needed, but I know what a difficult situation they would be in. Police there need to send a message with their voices and turn their backs on the mayor.

      2. @trev Following orders… say, I think that I heard something about that at the Nuremburg trials.

  21. This is what happens when authorities sit back and let things happen. Eventually the thugs get bold enough to become violent.

    1. Mussolini’s Black Shirts would be so proud of their ideological children. These thugs are no more anti-fascist than they were. They have become the very monsters that they claim to hate.

  22. So, when are we going to start treating them like the commie terrorists that they are? ANTIFA is a disease on our society, a cancer that needs removing. They already march around all in black, just like the Italian Fascists before they took over. These scum need to be stopped before they get more power.

  23. Police stood by and watched

    I keep reading this, but I have yet to see a single tin star in any of those videos. Are they even there?

    1. Yes, and this is pretty typical. For instance, a few years ago, Berkeley PD stood around while protesters were beaten like this.

      1. Where?

        I mean, if this is the narrative we’re going to drive, then why aren’t we getting footage of the cops just standing there? That’d be the real damning footage.

        1. I agree although I’m not sure Malkin and others don’t have some video of the PD there I have not gone through it all. The point the injured guy was making was they are so short handed because the police don’t want to work under the direction of Wheeler and Adam even made a point he did not blame the cops for this.

        2. You didn’t watch the Andy Ngo videos from yesterday? Where the cops showed up to valiantly interview him after he had been beaten half to death? Where he said, “where the hell were you guys?” while he was bleeding from about 8 spots?

                1. In the correct direction, 7 blocks away, hiding in a warehouse behind a table full of donuts and coffee….

                2. Yes, exactly. Point the camera at that. Time stamp it to go side-to-side with another camera filming the violence.

                3. The level of statism on this “conservative”, constitution-loving, founding father honoring comment section is appalling.

                  These people need to remember the Alamo.

          1. Not to mention Mayor admitted he supported police not responding and Ngo said he waited 30 minutes before they showed up. Don’t bother trying to convince the thick skulls though.

          2. What’s worse is the PD has just come out with a clarifying statement Malkin linked to and they were tipped off that Cement was being put in the milkshakes and were sent the actual recipe. it doesn’t appear they gave a hoot what was about to happen.

        3. I’m guessing the cameras are on the action, not Portland cops standing around. That’d be my guess.

          1. Yea, blood and violence always makes for better clickbait.

            Kind of undercuts the message though. I mean, we already knew that antifa were masked violent dirtbags. But now we’re alleging malfeasance on 5-0. Which I am inclined to immediately believe, but still – I’d like to see footage.

      2. Yes and apparently according to pics and video links Malkin has on twitter, not just the man in above video, but another named Adam(she has photos) got 25 stitches to the head at ER and thankfully his CT scan was clear. He apparently is former security officer and told her that Portland PD came to hospital and took his report, but said they are 130 police short as nobody wants to work the Portland precincts.

        1. So don’t give them a choice.

          That’s one of the only positives about cops. They can be ordered around. He doesn’t want to do it? Fine. Quit. One less pension to pay for.

          1. That would mean you actually had a Police chief and Mayor that cared about stopping crime and in this case Antifa. Just saw the PD has sent out a clarifying statement regarding their tweet on “milkshakes” and they said they were tipped off ahead of time and even anonymously sent the “cement milkshake” recipe. If in fact they were not just standing by allowing it, the other alternative is they knew it was going to happen according to their own statement and chose not to have a police presence to diffuse it. Neither is a good look for the PD or the Mayor.

            1. That would mean you actually had a Police chief and Mayor that cared about stopping crime and in this case Antifa.

              Well yes. But that’s an entirely different problem.

              Also, where is Johnny Law’s independent judgment? For as much grief as the badge-loving hand-wringers give me about calling them “dogs of the state,” they sure seem pretty well behaved when told to heel and stay.

              They see a gang of masked idiots pouncing on a single guy, and do nothing? Went to cop school for that, did they?

              If they weren’t there at all, then we’ve got a problem with the brass. If they were there and did nothing, that’s what should have been filmed. Not the antifas gon’ antifa.

              1. I agree and I’m guessing the problem is more with the brass than average cops so maybe they were told not to police the area. More may come out or maybe just die by Tuesday as you said,

    2. The police are there. I believe Andy Ngo released video earlier in the year showing the police standing by while an elderly man was jerked out of his car for daring to drive on a public road that Antifa jokers were blocking.

        1. My bad. It was in late 2018. October, I believe. So I should have written, “…less than a year ago.”

  24. You noticed they do these things in Oregon and NY which are leftist territories. You never see them try that stuff down here in the South or any of the red states in the west. I wonder why?

    1. Yep, Antifa has a grip on Portland and other coastal cities like the KKK used to have on certain cities in the deep South.

    2. They tried it in Texas two years back. Memorial park. We showed up armed. Not a masked Antifa scumbag to be found.

      Weird.

  25. I think it’s time the FBI rounds up not only the ANTIFA thugs but the people running things and charge them with domestic terrorism.

    1. Who are the people in charge? Does anyone even know?

      First one that says “George Soros” is getting punched in the face. Yes, he’s probably a big fan. May even be funding them. But if you think he’s got a hand in organizing this nonsense, then I have a wall to sell you.

      1. George Soros.

        Actually, it’s a bunch of public university professors in Berkely and Oakland and Portland and so forth from what I’ve read.

        Your tax dollars and kid’s tuition dollars hard at work for you.

        1. *punches you in the…* ahh, it’s not worth it.

          What are uniprofs from California doing in downtown Portland? That’s like a 10 hour drive.

              1. When was the last time you checked the average salary of a Berkely professor? I can assure you, it’s a lot more than the average conservative website keyboard warrior makes.

                1. It’s $150K.

                  Hardly lighting cigars with benjamins money. Especially when they have to pay to live in Frisco.

                2. @atomicsentinel There is no reason for a Berkeley professor to live in San Francisco only to pay higher prices and commute across the Bay Bridge. I’m sure East Bay prices are high enough but don’t exaggerate.

      2. George soros.George Soros. George soros. How very antifa for you to think you could punch anyone in the face.

        1. How predictable of you to name a convenient boogeyman rather than say something informed.

          I ain’t saying Soros’ filthy Media Gutters hands don’t have a part in this. But if you think he’s pulling the strings and organizing it, then stop talking, disconnect from the internet, put on a tin foil hat, and rock yourself to sleep in the fetal position in a closet somewhere.

          1. Shut up ya drunk. You do nothing but run your ignorant, smartass mouth behind some stupid name like at. You add nothing to any conversation. Your main objective is to start trouble.

      3. @atomicsentinel You’re as bad as ANTIFA threatening to punch people in the face! I’m sure it wouldn’t be that difficult for the FBI to find out who was behind it………..and Soros is probably funding it so lock him up, throw away the key and figure it out later.

        1. That’s not how American jurisprudence works.

          And the “threat” was more a colloquialism. A fancy way of saying, “Don’t be stupid. Because I know folks are about to be stupid. So don’t be stupid, stupids.”

          They were stupid anyway. Can’t help some folks, I guess.

        2. @sjmom I was cranky yesterday because of my GPS being stolen and said that I wished that I’d run into antifa. AT jumped on me in her typically hypocritical way for inciting violence.

          1. Dr. Strangelove – I’m always down for running into Antifa. Just keep the red light cameras, police, and smart phones away. It’s gonna’ be messy. 😀

          2. @dr-strangelove That’s a good reason to be cranky. My hubby would’ve been more than “cranky”.

            Some people are just unhappy.

          3. That’s not what I did at all.

            I simply pointed out that, like a prog, which you are, you want to take your anger, frustration, rage, sense of unfairness, et al. out on someone who didn’t harm you. And then you laughingly treat it like it’s “justice” being done.

            You are an awful human being, Doc. You know that?

            1. @atomicsentinel Personal attacks, again? You should familiarize yourself with the comment policy.

                1. That’s all that you have is personal attacks. Try to stick to the subject matter.

          1. That’s not what I said.

            I said you’re wearing a tin-foil hat if you think George Soros is spending all his time orchestrating and machinating behind the scenes to get idiots to throw milkshakes at gay asians. He might have a hand in some of the money, but if you think he’s the kingpin here, then I’ve got a wall to sell you.

      4. @atomicsentinel So, proposing violence after castigating me for using it metaphorically? I smell hypocrisy.

    2. More likely is that people will be arrested for getting in the way of Antifa free speech crow bars.

      1. @drkjk This is why it’s important the Feds step in and take control. Take it out of the hands of the Leftists who run these cities.

  26. In related news, TheBlaze has reported a Chick-fil-A in Manhattan was vandalized during their ‘PRIDE’ parade.

    1. The homosexuals apparently hated the delicious food and nice people serving them… SMH

      1. Seems like the same sort of thing happened with Jewish businesses in Nazi Germany…

  27. Antifa, the Sturmabteilung of the Democratic Party. Publicly the Dems will say, tsk tsk. Privately the Dems are applauding.
    There is no fascist like an ANTIFA fascist.

  28. That’s likely how I would die – if I were ever in a situation like that. One of my worst traits is that I have a molten temper (especially against animals like this). I pray that I’m NEVER in a situation like this and if I am, that the love of God would restrain me.

    There is NO excuse for this!!! And if no one is punished… or certain laws put in place for protection, or Antifa isn’t designated a Domestic Terrorist Group, then the powder keg on the right strains even more to keep from blowing up. Most of us are sick to death at this sort anarchy and terrorism. And the wrong person will attack the wrong person some day and the outcome will be horrible and will ratchet things up dramatically.

    1. Oddly this may have been that ratchet point because for the first time I’m seeing more people following this story despite this not being Antifa’s first attack like this. We may have reached the tipping point and for one thing, the Portland PD now has all eyes on them and there have to be some in the department that don’t like what they are being told to do by the Mayor supposedly.

      1. I doubt the tipping point has yet been reached. For that to happen the Democrats, that is to say the left, has to sincerely and credibly denounce their own. And that is simply not going to happen.

        1. I did not mean it that way and I agree with you on Dems. I mean on the side of the hardworking taxpayers standing up to these thugs as I see for the first time more people waking up to who and what this group is. I’m curious to see if any other GOP besides Cruz step up and call for action.

          1. I mean on the side of the hardworking taxpayers standing up to these thugs

            You mean the ones with jobs, who go to those jobs, who don’t have time for this screaming in the street baboonery?

              1. I’d love some good ‘ol fashioned street violence. But, y’know, my business ain’t gunna run itself.

      2. No, you’ll need to see a major city burn first.

        Right now it’s just cats and dogs in the street. Plays well for clickbait, but folks will have forgotten about this by Tuesday.

      3. A good point. I hope you’re right. This sort of civil unrest (and domestic terrorism) could completely unravel American society. Portland has a LOT of explaining to do.

    2. The best way to never be in a situation like this, is to not put oneself in a situation like this.

      1. IF we keep retreating eventually these Antifa thugs will be going door to door. Better to nip it now.

    3. The more the law abiding among us see these criminal terrorists getting away with this, the more that powder keg strains to keep the lid on. They’ve gotten away with it primarily because they stick to venues governed by liberals where the police and authorities have been instructed to “stand down”. They don’t dare try this where law enforcement and law abiding CCW holders will not tolerate their lawlessness. Yet.

      If they become emboldened enough to spread to where their anarchy will not be tolerated and innocent bystanders are injured, the keg will likely burst. I don’t know if there is anything federal law enforcement can do about Portland and the fascists running that cesspool, but this is beginning to spin out of control. Somebody better get control of it and be quick about it. This will not end well if we fail to put a stop to it.

        1. @dr-strangelove
          Thanks Doc, top of the morning to you. Safe travels out there my friend.

          1. @rwrad You’re very welcome. I’m traveling the beautiful back roads of Kentucky today. Once I get out of this dock, of course.

  29. If it’s within his powers, I think Attorney General Barr should come down on the Portland Mayor and Police Chief with a sledge hammer. The citizens of Portland should be protected from Antifia which is nothing but a terrorist group.

    1. Agreed because the good tax paying people including shop owners of Portland can’t even enjoy their city as the Mayor and PD have turned it over to these thugs. Michelle Malkin has all different videos linked on her twitter feed surrounding this crime and as she said all eyes are on you Portland police.

  30. Antifa has been declared by DoJ & FBI as a domestic terrorist organization, correct?

    Why hasn’t the feds gone in and cleaned house with these terrorists…and I mean clean house!!!

  31. Thank God this was captured on video. Who would believe it otherwise?

    By the way, here is a recap of the three people arrested. Note the “charges:”
    ———————
    Gage Halupowski, 23, on charges of second-degree assault and assault on a public safety officer.

    James K. Stocks, 21, on the charge of harassment.

    Maria C. Dehart, 23, on the charge of second-degree disorderly conduct and harassment.
    ———————-
    Yeah, that was some “harassment” alright. :exclamation:

  32. Some antifa chick on twitter was trying to say this was a young guy who had a Nazis haircut.

    1. The credibility stops with: “Antifa chick” – if she opens her mouth, she’s lying or spewing hatred.

  33. There are reports of the FBI investigating ANTIFA for weapons purchases from Mexican Cartels. It’s officially Lapua time. And if LE is not on our side, they’re on ANTIFAs side.

  34. Apparently some troll below wants us to think that while the video shows a large number of Antifa wearing military gear, the police didn’t bother showing up to the area. lol They were there! They just didn’t give help to those that needed it.

  35. If you live in Portland you should recall the Mayor and fire all the Police Officers who where in that Station refusing to to respond to citizens calling for help.

  36. I did not see any Police standing by,unless they were again standing by at their station.just does not make sense,Choose Law Enforcement to protect lives and Property and all they do is protect themselves and the Police Station.

      1. Well at the very least,declassify them as Crossing Guards or Traffic Control Officers,then they wold be able to direct traffic for the rioters.Thanks Chow

  37. The thugs responsible for the assaults should be held accountable to the full extent of the law. If law enforcement deliberately stood aside knowing of ongoing assaults, they should also be held accountable.

    1. Agreed, but sounds like there was an order to stand down so the person making that order should be held accountable. I am not going to blame officers for following orders, but I am going to blame those who they report to. Police Commissioner, sergeants, mayor, governor, etc.

    2. Agreed, but sounds like there was an order to stand down so the person making that order should be held accountable. I am not going to blame officers for following orders, but I am going to blame those who they report to. Police Commissioner, sergeants, mayor, governor, etc.

      1. I disagree. If a police officer sits by watching folks get assaulted, orders or not, they have no business bring cops. The person who gave the orders should obviously be gone too.

        1. @ryan-o The mayor of Portland, Ted Wheeler, is also the Police Commissioner, so I would say the buck stops there.

          1. There are numerous folks in positions of power who have to answer for this stuff in that city, I’m sure. Cops shouldn’t sit idly by no matter the “orders”.

        2. Agreed. If a police officer is not enforcing the law or is aiding and abetting the perpetrators of a crime they are no longer law enforcement but thug criminals in uniform and are just as liable as any other criminal. They are no more required to follow an unlawful order any more than a military person is required to follow an unlawful order. They either agreed with harming innocent protestors or they are blatant scurvy cowards.

          1. I agree. If a policeman is unlucky enough to have a mayor or chief who is giving orders to him to stand by watching while citizens are being violently attacked by thugs, he should disregard that order and raise hell when he gets in trouble for it. Then when he’s fired, he should sue the hell out of everybody running that town! Then of course he’d have to be prepared to relocate to another city where the mayor is a conservative who believes the police should actually enforce the law! Might have to relocate to another state but it’d be worth it to be able to take pride in his job and not sell out his principles to the bad guys!

        3. I agree with you to a point and I would hope those police officers just following orders would be in the process of relocating to another place where good police work is rewarded. Those who stay should break with ranks and do the job needed, but I know what a difficult situation they would be in. Police there need to send a message with their voices and turn their backs on the mayor.

      2. @trev Following orders… say, I think that I heard something about that at the Nuremburg trials.

  38. This is what happens when authorities sit back and let things happen. Eventually the thugs get bold enough to become violent.

  39. So, when are we going to start treating them like the commie terrorists that they are? ANTIFA is a disease on our society, a cancer that needs removing. They already march around all in black, just like the Italian Fascists before they took over. These scum need to be stopped before they get more power.

  40. Police stood by and watched

    I keep reading this, but I have yet to see a single tin star in any of those videos. Are they even there?

    1. Yes, and this is pretty typical. For instance, a few years ago, Berkeley PD stood around while protesters were beaten like this.

      1. Where?

        I mean, if this is the narrative we’re going to drive, then why aren’t we getting footage of the cops just standing there? That’d be the real damning footage.

        1. I’m guessing the cameras are on the action, not Portland cops standing around. That’d be my guess.

          1. Yea, blood and violence always makes for better clickbait.

            Kind of undercuts the message though. I mean, we already knew that antifa were masked violent dirtbags. But now we’re alleging malfeasance on 5-0. Which I am inclined to immediately believe, but still – I’d like to see footage.

        2. You didn’t watch the Andy Ngo videos from yesterday? Where the cops showed up to valiantly interview him after he had been beaten half to death? Where he said, “where the hell were you guys?” while he was bleeding from about 8 spots?

          1. Not to mention Mayor admitted he supported police not responding and Ngo said he waited 30 minutes before they showed up. Don’t bother trying to convince the thick skulls though.

          2. What’s worse is the PD has just come out with a clarifying statement Malkin linked to and they were tipped off that Cement was being put in the milkshakes and were sent the actual recipe. it doesn’t appear they gave a hoot what was about to happen.

        3. I agree although I’m not sure Malkin and others don’t have some video of the PD there I have not gone through it all. The point the injured guy was making was they are so short handed because the police don’t want to work under the direction of Wheeler and Adam even made a point he did not blame the cops for this.

      2. Yes and apparently according to pics and video links Malkin has on twitter, not just the man in above video, but another named Adam(she has photos) got 25 stitches to the head at ER and thankfully his CT scan was clear. He apparently is former security officer and told her that Portland PD came to hospital and took his report, but said they are 130 police short as nobody wants to work the Portland precincts.

        1. So don’t give them a choice.

          That’s one of the only positives about cops. They can be ordered around. He doesn’t want to do it? Fine. Quit. One less pension to pay for.

          1. That would mean you actually had a Police chief and Mayor that cared about stopping crime and in this case Antifa. Just saw the PD has sent out a clarifying statement regarding their tweet on “milkshakes” and they said they were tipped off ahead of time and even anonymously sent the “cement milkshake” recipe. If in fact they were not just standing by allowing it, the other alternative is they knew it was going to happen according to their own statement and chose not to have a police presence to diffuse it. Neither is a good look for the PD or the Mayor.

            1. That would mean you actually had a Police chief and Mayor that cared about stopping crime and in this case Antifa.

              Well yes. But that’s an entirely different problem.

              Also, where is Johnny Law’s independent judgment? For as much grief as the badge-loving hand-wringers give me about calling them “dogs of the state,” they sure seem pretty well behaved when told to heel and stay.

              They see a gang of masked idiots pouncing on a single guy, and do nothing? Went to cop school for that, did they?

              If they weren’t there at all, then we’ve got a problem with the brass. If they were there and did nothing, that’s what should have been filmed. Not the antifas gon’ antifa.

  41. You noticed they do these things in Oregon and NY which are leftist territories. You never see them try that stuff down here in the South or any of the red states in the west. I wonder why?

    1. Yep, Antifa has a grip on Portland and other coastal cities like the KKK used to have on certain cities in the deep South.

    2. Yep, Antifa has a grip on Portland and other coastal cities like the KKK used to have on certain cities in the deep South.

    3. They tried it in Texas two years back. Memorial park. We showed up armed. Not a masked Antifa scumbag to be found.

      Weird.

  42. I think it’s time the FBI rounds up not only the ANTIFA thugs but the people running things and charge them with domestic terrorism.

    1. Who are the people in charge? Does anyone even know?

      First one that says “George Soros” is getting punched in the face. Yes, he’s probably a big fan. May even be funding them. But if you think he’s got a hand in organizing this nonsense, then I have a wall to sell you.

      1. @atomicsentinel You’re as bad as ANTIFA threatening to punch people in the face! I’m sure it wouldn’t be that difficult for the FBI to find out who was behind it………..and Soros is probably funding it so lock him up, throw away the key and figure it out later.

        1. That’s not how American jurisprudence works.

          And the “threat” was more a colloquialism. A fancy way of saying, “Don’t be stupid. Because I know folks are about to be stupid. So don’t be stupid, stupids.”

          They were stupid anyway. Can’t help some folks, I guess.

      2. @atomicsentinel So, proposing violence after castigating me for using it metaphorically? I smell hypocrisy.

          1. That’s not what I said.

            I said you’re wearing a tin-foil hat if you think George Soros is spending all his time orchestrating and machinating behind the scenes to get idiots to throw milkshakes at gay asians. He might have a hand in some of the money, but if you think he’s the kingpin here, then I’ve got a wall to sell you.

      3. George Soros.

        Actually, it’s a bunch of public university professors in Berkely and Oakland and Portland and so forth from what I’ve read.

        Your tax dollars and kid’s tuition dollars hard at work for you.

        1. *punches you in the…* ahh, it’s not worth it.

          What are uniprofs from California doing in downtown Portland? That’s like a 10 hour drive.

              1. When was the last time you checked the average salary of a Berkely professor? I can assure you, it’s a lot more than the average conservative website keyboard warrior makes.

                1. It’s $150K.

                  Hardly lighting cigars with benjamins money. Especially when they have to pay to live in Frisco.

                2. @atomicsentinel There is no reason for a Berkeley professor to live in San Francisco only to pay higher prices and commute across the Bay Bridge. I’m sure East Bay prices are high enough but don’t exaggerate.

      4. George soros.George Soros. George soros. How very antifa for you to think you could punch anyone in the face.

        1. How predictable of you to name a convenient boogeyman rather than say something informed.

          I ain’t saying Soros’ filthy Media Gutters hands don’t have a part in this. But if you think he’s pulling the strings and organizing it, then stop talking, disconnect from the internet, put on a tin foil hat, and rock yourself to sleep in the fetal position in a closet somewhere.

          1. Shut up ya drunk. You do nothing but run your ignorant, smartass mouth behind some stupid name like at. You add nothing to any conversation. Your main objective is to start trouble.

  43. In related news, TheBlaze has reported a Chick-fil-A in Manhattan was vandalized during their ‘PRIDE’ parade.

      1. Seems like the same sort of thing happened with Jewish businesses in Nazi Germany…

  44. Antifa, the Sturmabteilung of the Democratic Party. Publicly the Dems will say, tsk tsk. Privately the Dems are applauding.
    There is no fascist like an ANTIFA fascist.

  45. That’s likely how I would die – if I were ever in a situation like that. One of my worst traits is that I have a molten temper (especially against animals like this). I pray that I’m NEVER in a situation like this and if I am, that the love of God would restrain me.

    There is NO excuse for this!!! And if no one is punished… or certain laws put in place for protection, or Antifa isn’t designated a Domestic Terrorist Group, then the powder keg on the right strains even more to keep from blowing up. Most of us are sick to death at this sort anarchy and terrorism. And the wrong person will attack the wrong person some day and the outcome will be horrible and will ratchet things up dramatically.

    1. Oddly this may have been that ratchet point because for the first time I’m seeing more people following this story despite this not being Antifa’s first attack like this. We may have reached the tipping point and for one thing, the Portland PD now has all eyes on them and there have to be some in the department that don’t like what they are being told to do by the Mayor supposedly.

      1. I doubt the tipping point has yet been reached. For that to happen the Democrats, that is to say the left, has to sincerely and credibly denounce their own. And that is simply not going to happen.

      2. No, you’ll need to see a major city burn first.

        Right now it’s just cats and dogs in the street. Plays well for clickbait, but folks will have forgotten about this by Tuesday.

    2. The best way to never be in a situation like this, is to not put oneself in a situation like this.

      1. IF we keep retreating eventually these Antifa thugs will be going door to door. Better to nip it now.

    3. The more the law abiding among us see these criminal terrorists getting away with this, the more that powder keg strains to keep the lid on. They’ve gotten away with it primarily because they stick to venues governed by liberals where the police and authorities have been instructed to “stand down”. They don’t dare try this where law enforcement and law abiding CCW holders will not tolerate their lawlessness. Yet.

      If they become emboldened enough to spread to where their anarchy will not be tolerated and innocent bystanders are injured, the keg will likely burst. I don’t know if there is anything federal law enforcement can do about Portland and the fascists running that cesspool, but this is beginning to spin out of control. Somebody better get control of it and be quick about it. This will not end well if we fail to put a stop to it.

  46. Some antifa chick on twitter was trying to say this was a young guy who had a Nazis haircut.

    1. The credibility stops with: “Antifa chick” – if she opens her mouth, she’s lying or spewing hatred.

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